Prospect Info: The 2023-2024 Prospects Thread Pt. 3

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The Iron Goalie

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My current post draft prospects rankings (Always changing).

Vancouver Canucks Prospects Ranking (The Iron Goalie) - Elite Prospects

Top 10 Forwards

1. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
2. Aatu Raty
3. Arshdeep Bains
4. Linus Karlsson
5. Melvin Fernstrom
6. Max Sasson
7. Riley Patterson
8. Vitali Kravtsov
9. Tristen Nielsen
10. Anthony Romani
HM - Danilia Klimovich, Josh Bloom, Ty Mueller

Top 10 Defensemen

1. Tom Willander
2. D-Petey
3. Jett Woo
4. Sawyer Mynio
5. Cole McWard
6. Kirill Kudryavtsev
7. Akito Hirose
8. Jackson Dorrington
9. Aiden Celebrini
10. Hugo Gabrielson
HM - Parker Alcos, Christian Felton, Basile Sansonnens

Goalies

1. Arturs Silovs
2. Nikita Tolopilo
3. Aku Koskenvuo
4. Ty Young
 

Hansen

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Watched some interviews from day 2, man Tom Willander is just such a great interview. At 19 or whatever speaking in a second language incredibly articulate and thoughtful. He honestly reminde me of Draisaitl like that.

Hope he has a huge year and works on the offensive side of his game, this (possibly) last year in college will be the last time he gets to wheel and deal against a lower level of competition and where he has more freedom to make mistakes; make the most of it.

And yeah the NCAA bound prospect invites are always a little frustrating. I remember how we invited Brandon Tanev like 4 or 5 years running because of Chris and then when he finally morphed into an actual prospect at the age of 23-24 he f***in signed with the Jets, like wtf man
 

VanJack

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Canucks Army has a piece up on the first day of Canuck Development Camp.....the early standouts were Wilander, Riley Patterson and Jeff Bloom.

Their skating was a cut above just about everyone else on the ice. Hoping that Bloom can have a bounce-back season and be a real contributor in Abbotsford.
 

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Canucks Army has a piece up on the first day of Canuck Development Camp.....the early standouts were Wilander, Riley Patterson and Jeff Bloom.

Their skating was a cut above just about everyone else on the ice. Hoping that Bloom can have a bounce-back season and be a real contributor in Abbotsford.
As it was said that this is Josh Blooms 4th development camp now.

Sansonnens looks like he skates well for a big man.

Dave seems to be getting those Faber rose coloured glasses on for certain prospects though. Faber would interview guys then be a big fan after if he liked them and the reviews were always very glowing about the player after that. Pretty much all got traded or amounted to nothing in the NHL.
 
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As it was said that this is Josh Blooms 4th development camp now.

Sansonnens looks like he skates well for a big man.

Dave seems to be getting those Faber rose coloured glasses on for certain prospects though. Faber would interview guys then be a big fan after if he liked them and the reviews were always very glowing about the player after that. Pretty much all got traded or amounted to nothing in the NHL.
I lost all respect in faber after he dubbed podkolzin "Russian messier".
 
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VanJack

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I lost all respect in faber after he dubbed podkolzin "Russian messier".
It wasn't just Faber......Igor Larionov who coached him at the U-18's and in the KHL also compared him to Messier.

Just goes to show how quickly top-10 draft picks can age out and turn into fourth line muckers and grinders rather than HOF's like Messier.
 

ManVanFan

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I lost all respect in faber after he dubbed podkolzin "Russian messier".
Lol. I forgot about that.

It wasn't just Faber......Igor Larionov who coached him at the U-18's and in the KHL also compared him to Messier.

Just goes to show how quickly top-10 draft picks can age out and turn into fourth line muckers and grinders rather than HOF's like Messier.
Feels like there is game there but he just can't put it together. Playing scared constantly.
 

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Lol. I forgot about that.


Feels like there is game there but he just can't put it together. Playing scared constantly.
Yeah I hope the 2 year contract will make him feel less pressure. He should be getting the Hog dev plan where he will be parked on the 4th line.
 

Big zZz

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Yeah I hope the 2 year contract will make him feel less pressure. He should be getting the Hog dev plan where he will be parked on the 4th line.
Yeah fingers crossed because if he figured things out that make managements life a lot easier. I wish the kid well I've just never seen "it" from him.

I much appreciate the realistic views and expectations for prospects here. The other board I used to frequent was basically a big circle jerk to anyone drafted by the Canucks.
 

ManVanFan

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Yeah fingers crossed because if he figured things out that make managements life a lot easier. I wish the kid well I've just never seen "it" from him.

I much appreciate the realistic views and expectations for prospects here. The other board I used to frequent was basically a big circle jerk to anyone drafted by the Canucks.
Last board I was on it was either NHL star if they liked the prospect or he was an AHL lifer, if they disliked the prospect. Nothing in-between.

There are the occasional cases of
Verhaeghe's who didn't play an NHL game till 24 where he had 13 points in 52 games.
Hyman had 6 points in 16 games at 23 years old.
Vatrano played a couple half seasons at 21-22-23 finally at 24 after being traded played a full season and went .5 ppg.

I did come across a random tweet this morning
Jack Han

@JhanHky

The real lesson from Florida's win, I think, is that one's NHL career really starts at 23. Reinhart, Bennett, Montour, Forsling, Verhaeghe etc had all been dealt by at least one NHL org around that age. If you're elite like Barkov or early career OEL then 18-23 will be a productive time for you, but not always.

Podkolzin just turned 23 in June. The 3 I listed above all were dealt. Maybe Podz needs a fresh start.
 

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That's great news—much prefer him being in a CHL program for the next 3 years as he seems very raw and needs the ice time and the rope to learn, similar to how Klimovich needed to play in the CHL (but didn't).
I don't think it's official is it?
 

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My current post draft prospects rankings (Always changing).

Vancouver Canucks Prospects Ranking (The Iron Goalie) - Elite Prospects

Top 10 Forwards

1. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
2. Aatu Raty
3. Arshdeep Bains
4. Linus Karlsson
5. Melvin Fernstrom
6. Max Sasson
7. Riley Patterson
8. Vitali Kravtsov
9. Tristen Nielsen
10. Anthony Romani
HM - Danilia Klimovich, Josh Bloom, Ty Mueller
This has to be the worst, if not one of the worst set of forwards prospects in the league right?


Top 10 Defensemen

1. Tom Willander
2. D-Petey
3. Jett Woo
4. Sawyer Mynio
5. Cole McWard
6. Kirill Kudryavtsev
7. Akito Hirose
8. Jackson Dorrington
9. Aiden Celebrini
10. Hugo Gabrielson
HM - Parker Alcos, Christian Felton, Basile Sansonnens

It gets better here as I have Willander at my top overall Canucks prospect and I think EP 2.0 might become a useful player but if Jett Woo is your 3rd best guy...yikes
Goalies

1. Arturs Silovs
2. Nikita Tolopilo
3. Aku Koskenvuo
4. Ty Young
We are better here but a team can only play one goalie at a time.
 
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This has to be the worst, if not one of the worst set of forwards prospects in the league right?




It gets better here as I have Willander at my top overall Canucks prospect and I think EP 2.0 might become a useful player but if Jett Woo is your 3rd best guy...yikes

We are better here but a team can only play one goalie at a time.
Happens when you trade top two round picks consistently.
 

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This has to be the worst, if not one of the worst set of forwards prospects in the league right?




It gets better here as I have Willander at my top overall Canucks prospect and I think EP 2.0 might become a useful player but if Jett Woo is your 3rd best guy...yikes

We are better here but a team can only play one goalie at a time.
These are your 2020's draftees. The Canucks have not had many in the 202X's

2020 1st and 2nd traded for Miller and Toffoli. Jurmo gone in Lindholm trade but didn't project anymore.
2021 1st and 3rd traded for OEL/Garland and Dickinson. Klim, going overseas
2022 1st Lekky, 2nd traded for OEL/Garland and 3rd was D Petey
2023 1st Wallinder, 2nd traded Hronek, 3rd was Bruz who was dealt for Lindholm
2024 1st dealt for Lindholm, 2nd dealt to dump Dickinson, 3rd was Fernstrom

15 possible draft picks and only Petey, Wallinder and Fernstrom were there. Explains why it's overall weak.
 

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Fernstrom is a pure scoring offensive player. He reminds me a lot of Jack Quinn . He can wire the puck with his wrist shot , can unleash a powerful one time and slap shot, can score from almost anywhere on the ice , is a great passer , has outstanding playmaking abilities , and can create space for his teammates to get open when he has the puck that can lead to scoring chances

Our Development staff are more than capable of helping him get over the hump and improve the deficiencies in his game ie ( His play away from the puck , motor , and two way game etc) .

Once overcomes those deficiencies and becomes a better two way player . He will blossom and become a solid player with top 6 potential in the NHL one day .

I feel we may have a steal on our hands and I still cannot believe he fell too 93
 
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ManVanFan

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Fernstrom is a pure scoring offensive player. He reminds me a lot of Jack Quinn . He can wire the puck with his wrist shot , can unleash a powerful one time and slap shot, can score from almost anywhere on the ice , is a great passer , has outstanding playmaking abilities , and can create space for his teammates to get open when he has the puck that can lead to scoring chances

Our Development staff are more than capable of helping him get over the hump and improve the deficiencies in his game ie ( His play away from the puck , motor , and two way game etc) .

Once overcomes those deficiencies and becomes a better two way player . He will blossom and become a solid player with top 6 potential in the NHL one day .

I feel we may have a steal on our hands and I still cannot believe he fell too 93
If he could skate, he is probably taken first half of the 2nd round like the rest of Swedish junior players do, who are topping the scoring chart. Like Linus Karlsson who can't skate either, fell to 87 to Ottawa.
 
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