GDT: The 2021 NHL Entry Draft Thread! Round 1, 8pm EST on ESPN2!

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I can say I certainly agree with the kind of D-man Stevie seems to like. They are really athletic big guys, so they actually have the skating. It is on you to develop them, but Mo Seider shows you the kind of reward if you gamble and it goes right. We look to be building a big mobile D, he got those first they take longer to develop, now he will go after forward in the next couple in my opinion. Interesting building blocks starting to appear, I like what Yzerman is doing.

My fear is that with Edvinsson you've got a good chance that same gamble goes wrong. Mo was a terrific choice because he is oozing hockey smarts and his passing is so damn crisp and on target. Edvinsson doesn't have those same smarts and his passing is the thing in his game I like the least. Things don't seem to come as natural for him and his game is much more reactionary whereas Mo dictates the pace of the game.
 
One of the only guys in the top 10 I think has a floor of not being an nhl defenseman. Gotta pray hard.
 
Worth noting those charts are 100% about point production. They can tell you nothing about a player's overall game and even Seider has something like 15% chance of being a star in a chart like that.

We gotta give Edvinsson the chance.

It’s hard to teach hockey IQ. Edvinsson makes a lot of bad decisions with the puck, especially in the offensive zone. Using a top ten pick on a glorified defensive defenseman is terrible asset management.

To be clear, Yzerman’s made bad first round selections before in Tampa. I feel very strongly about this being one of them.
 
I never doubted the Seider pick although it came out of left field, but Edvinsson is definitely one guy I did not want at all. I have to say, this is the most ive questioned Stevie Y since he became our GM.

Yep, I'm still all in on Yzerman, but also ready to throw shade if Edvinsson goes south.

Edvinsson has high risk, and that can be justified if the upside balances it out. But I don't think his ceiling is as high as his proponents think. Because even if his IQ isn't the problem I fear, it's still not great. It's still only ok. And that puts a real cap on the kid's ceiling.
 
I mean, I trust Y and company. But this isn't the Seider pick. Seider played in the WORLDS against men and didn't look out of place. I was good with that. That is not Edvinsson. He played against kids, and his team got blown the f out against kids from Canada. Twice. And he looked bad. But hey, he's big and can skate, woo. I thought we drafted that with Wallinder last year. After all, we passed on Peterka for him
 
I don't personally like the pick. I was not an Edvinsson guy. That being said, I know it was mentioned before. There is zero chance that Edvinsson wasn't vetted by Hakan, Nic, Kroner, maybe even Hank. He had to pass their eval and I trust that brain trust. #trusttheyzerplan
 
Edvinsson strikes me as a 10% chance of being a first-pair defender and a 90% chance of being a career SHLer. I don't like those odds in a sixth OA pick.

Sure, there is nothing in between, like a second pair D in the NHL. People just like to put numbers of the ass and sell it for analytics.
 
Happy with this pick. Now hoping for a centre next. I wonder how soon Svechkov will go. Salminen is my choice. If Lambos is there somehow I might be tempted on him
 
My fear is that with Edvinsson you've got a good chance that same gamble goes wrong. Mo was a terrific choice because he is oozing hockey smarts and his passing is so damn crisp and on target. Edvinsson doesn't have those same smarts and his passing is the thing in his game I like the least. Things don't seem to come as natural for him and his game is much more reactionary whereas Mo dictates the pace of the game.

well, I think this is the real curse of always being burned by the lotto. If we really want to move forward, we have to take some risks and grab guys who may have a more serious question mark but who also have more dramatic upsides. Everyone brings up Seider here, and I think Rasmussen is a pick that also fit this. So, it might work out. Might not. But getting an average result from every pick might be worth less for us than mixing some homeruns in with some straight up misses at this point.
 

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