Prospect Info: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft Discussion Thread

[Juxtaposer]

After seeing the V02 test I think it’s McIsaac or Lundestrom. I know you don’t like Samuelsson but I love Samuelsson and would be okay with taking him.

Those two guys are also classic Sharks first rounders. McIsaac is pretty likely. I don’t think the Sharks are taking a forward, but if they do then Lundestrom is a good a guess as any.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Merkley feature starts at 1:55:30

 

[The Nemesis]

All I want is a 2nd or 3rd to get up and take Milos Roman. I like him and I want another local(ish) prospect to root for and replace the failed dreams of Tyson Sexsmith (though I never had any expectations for him in particular)

 

[Kcoyote3]

Would you guys be mad if we turned our single 1st into three 2nd rounders?

I think it could be done.

Trade #21 to NYR for #28 and #39

Trade #28 to NYI for #41 and #43

End up drafting #39, #41, #43.

Yeah we miss out on all the top guys, but we get three picks in the top 43. That's not terrible.

 

[Led Zappa]

Would you guys be mad if we turned our single 1st into three 2nd rounders?

I think it could be done.

Trade #21 to NYR for #28 and #39

Trade #28 to NYI for #41 and #43

End up drafting #39, #41, #43.

Yeah we miss out on all the top guys, but we get three picks in the top 43. That's not terrible.

IIRC, picks are gold now and I doubt we see many pick(s) for pick(s) trades this year either. Now, if you wanna throw some players in there too, there were a lot more of those.

Not saying it's impossible, but unlikely in my mind.

1rst Round

Last year there were only 3 in the first round and 2 involved the Knights and the other was Hawks (26) for Stars (29+70).

2nd Round -

Flyers traded • 2017 second round pick (#44-Filip Westerlund) • 2017 third round pick (#75-Nate Schnarr) • 2017 fourth round pick (#108-Noel Hoefenmayer) to Coyotes for • 2017 second round pick (#35-Isaac Ratcliffe) on 2017-06-24

3rd round

See Second Round Flyers / Yotes

Oilers traded • 2017 third round pick (#82-Cameron Crotty) • 2017 fifth round pick (#126-Michael Karow) to Coyotes for • 2017 third round pick (#78-Stuart Skinner) on 2017-06-24

4th Round

See Second Round Flyers / Yotes

Sharks Traded • 2017 fourth round pick (#123-Brandon Crawley) • 2017 sixth round pick (#174-Morgan Barron) to Rangers for • 2017 fourth round pick (#102-Scott Reedy) on 2017-06-24

Hawks traded • 2017 fifth round pick (#135-Kristoffer Gunnarsson) • 2017 sixth round pick (#181-Petrus Palmu) to Canucks for • 2017 fourth round pick (#112-Tim Soderlund) on 2017-06-24

 

[NorthernShark]

Ryan Merkley or Riot

 

[Kcoyote3]

Ryan Merkley or Riot

Merkley gives me the creeps.

 

[Lebanezer]

Merkley gives me the creeps.

That reminds me of that scene in Moneyball where the scouts talk about players looks.

 

[LadyStanley]

More tidbits

 

[LadyStanley]

Rick Dudley explains NHL Combine's fuzzy numbers, but recalls that one sure thing

Rick Dudley on combine numbers (and the wow factor).

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Merkley gives me the creeps.

He looks like Arya Stark

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

He looks like Arya Stark

Sharks need one of those

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Sharks of Winterfell confirmed

 

[Painful Quandary]

Sharks of Winterfell confirmed

 

[Lebanezer]

Combine results

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[spintheblackcircle]

He looks like Arya Stark

Have to admit that this now makes me want the Sharks to take him a little more. I mean....they're twins.

 

[Friday]

Eyebrows

 

[Lebanezer]

I would like the Sharks to use the philosophy of drafting the players with the highest amount of skill possible relative to their ranking and ignore flaws. So for example, if Merkley is available at 21, you take Merkley because he has insane skill, but clear flaws, as opposed to a player with moderate skill and fewer flaws. Then in say the 3rd round, try drafting the players with high end skill but bigger flaws, like height or foot speed, and then in the later rounds, high end skills, but all kinds of flaws, height, weight, level of comp, character, speed, or what have you. Many flaws can be improved with maturity and training, but other things can't be taught. The Sharks have had so much success identifying players in the later rounds with obvious weaknesses and helping them improve and become decent NHL players. Why wouldn't you take the same approach in the earlier rounds by drafting players with even more dynamic unteachable qualities and helping them improve their teachable or improvable weaknesses?

 

[spintheblackcircle]

NHL.com had 3 mock drafts.

Kimelman -- K'Andre Miller, D, USA U-18 (USHL): He's been a defenseman for three seasons but has developed quickly at the position. Scouts like his raw talent, his NHL-ready size (6-3, 206) and his skating. The Sharks need to add defensemen to their prospect pipeline, and Miller, after some development time at the University of Wisconsin, likely will reward their patience.
Morreale -- Miller: He shifted from forward to defenseman at the suggestion of his coach at Minnetonka (Minn.) High School and the move has been a success. He had 29 points (nine goals, 20 assists), two shorthanded goals, a plus-23 rating and 103 shots on goal 58 games. He's got range, a good defensive stick and can skate well.
Lepage -- Sandin: It didn't take long him to adapt to the North American style of play after coming to Sault Ste. Marie. He led OHL rookie defensemen with 0.88 points per game and his plus-35 rating was fifth among all defensemen.

Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Zadina top NHL.com mock drafts

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

I would like the Sharks to use the philosophy of drafting the players with the highest amount of skill possible relative to their ranking and ignore flaws. So for example, if Merkley is available at 21, you take Merkley because he has insane skill, but clear flaws, as opposed to a player with moderate skill and fewer flaws. Then in say the 3rd round, try drafting the players with high end skill but bigger flaws, like height or foot speed, and then in the later rounds, high end skills, but all kinds of flaws, height, weight, level of comp, character, speed, or what have you. Many flaws can be improved with maturity and training, but other things can't be taught. The Sharks have had so much success identifying players in the later rounds with obvious weaknesses and helping them improve and become decent NHL players. Why wouldn't you take the same approach in the earlier rounds by drafting players with even more dynamic unteachable qualities and helping them improve their teachable or improvable weaknesses?

Very well said. Especially the bolded.

The Sharks’ current method of drafting may produce more sure fire NHLers like Hertl, Meier, and Coyle, but if they want to re-tool the core without tanking, they’ll need to do something to what Boston did by selecting their future #1D in Charlie McAvoy in the middle of the first round.

McAvoy is a defenseman who had a higher points-per-game in the NCAA in his draft year than Joshua Norris did in the NCAA in his draft+1 year. Why can Boston get players like McAvoy at #14OV, while we get players like Norris at #19OV?

 

[hohosaregood]

Foudy is probably a guy who could end up being a potential Sharks type of pick. Killed it at the combine and had a remarkable end to his season and basically poised for a huge D+1 year.

 

[The Nemesis]

He looks like Arya Stark

The rink is dark and full of slapshots.

 

[Lebanezer]

The rink is dark and full of slapshots.

More like the draft is dark and full of errors.

 

[ScottyDont]

Very well said. Especially the bolded.

The Sharks’ current method of drafting may produce more sure fire NHLers like Hertl, Meier, and Coyle, but if they want to re-tool the core without tanking, they’ll need to do something to what Boston did by selecting their future #1D in Charlie McAvoy in the middle of the first round.

I think if we draft more Hertls, Meier's and Coyle's, our future will be just fine. They're more then just sure fire NHLers, their top talent. It's when we continue to draft Mueller's and Goldobin's that we'll be in trouble.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

I think if we draft more Hertls, Meier's and Coyle's, our future will be just fine. They're more then just sure fire NHLers, their top talent. It's when we continue to draft Mueller's and Goldobin's that we'll be in trouble.

Top talent? Charlie f***ing Coyle is a top talent at the NHL level?

Any team with Meier-Hertl-Coyle as their top line is going to lose a lot more games than they win. Any team with any one of those guys as their best players is a lottery team.