Pre-Game Talk: The 2013-2014 Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

[ColonialsHockey10]

Could mean the difference between being a top-six forward and being a tweener for Zucc. Hard to believe he'd be consistently faster than Kreider, but it's a good sign if true.

If they're skating around cones it doesn't surprise me at all.

Kreider can barely turn. He can skate straightaway better then anyone though.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Kreider must be dogging it if Zucc is beating him out

Anxious to see how Staal looks. Girardi looking faster is good news. He got beat pretty badly a few times against Boston. Hrivik making this team would be interesting, rather sure he's more ready than Fast, whom I'd rather play in the A for a year.

JT Miller left the ice...hope he's not hurt too badly

 

[GAGLine]

We dont know the inside info on negotiations. But if he has an agent thats still pushing for a 4-6 year deal, that should be stopped immediately by the player. It ain't happening.

If they're agreed on the bridge deal and haggling over money, thats fine, and I'd expect that to be ironed out over the next couple days.

Exactly. We don't know. Why is why I choose not to stress about it. It will get done.

 

[Fitzy]

If they're skating around cones it doesn't surprise me at all.

Kreider can barely turn. He can skate straightaway better then anyone though.

This is key. Kreider's size of frame gives him the pure leg power to fire up the ice, but he doesn't cut well like a Hagelin does. His center of gravity is too high.

 

[NYR94]

I actually like Del Zotto and defend him to my friends and family who call him Del Zaster. He really needs to take the next step in his game. Become that offensive defenseman which the Rangers haven't had since Leetch. Those 2 players aren't in the same zip code as players but in today's NHL there is not a defenseman close to Leetch. A decent offensive D is hard to find in the 2013 NHL.

He gets a lot of criticism from a portion of the fan base, but he did score 37 points as a rookie and 41 in 2011-2012. Defensemen who can put up 40 points are not common in this league. Plus, he plays on a team with strong defensive defensemen like McDonagh, Girardi and Staal so there are a lot of NHL defensemen who are going to look worse than those guys. We are often spoiled as Rangers fans seeing such good defense from those players. The new coaching staff needs to work with him to get back to that 40 point level.

 

[Thirty One]

Miller out with possible hamstring concussion.

https://twitter.com/PatrickKearns/status/378191369120260096

Miller tweaked hamsting. Not believed to be serious.

 

[Thirty One]

https://twitter.com/AGrossRecord/status/378192048999763968

Vigneault says C Oscar Lindberg caught organization's collective eye with Traverse City performance. Says every team needs camp "surprises."

 

[pld459666]

Miller out with possible hamstring concussion.

https://twitter.com/PatrickKearns/status/378191369120260096

lolololololol

 

[I Eat Crow]

RIP Miller

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Miller out with possible hamstring concussion.

https://twitter.com/PatrickKearns/status/378191369120260096

Lots of small little things seem to be adding up with Miller.

 

[broadwayblue]

Lots of small little things seem to be adding up with Miller.

Lots? I know he's had a wrist issue. What else has he been dealing with?

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Lots? I know he's had a wrist issue. What else has he been dealing with?

1 in every 5 hockey players suffer from tunnel vision. It's time you stop blindly looking away and realize that this is a serious issue.

 

[nevesis]

Miller is fine and will be back tomorrow.

 

[Thirty One]

Lots? I know he's had a wrist issue. What else has he been dealing with?

Wrist-Concussion
Head of a Cocker Spaniel
Spontaneous Robert De Niro Face

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Lots? I know he's had a wrist issue. What else has he been dealing with?

A hammy now. Lots of little nicks for a young kid.

 

[broadwayblue]

1 in every 5 hockey players suffer from tunnel vision. It's time you stop blindly looking away and realize that this is a serious issue.

What?

 

[eco's bones]

THURSDAY ON-ICE TESTING GROUPS

GROUP 1 (8 a.m.): Michael Haley, Oscar Lindberg, Brandon Mashinter, Klarc Wilson, Ryan Bourque, Jesper Fast, Michael St. Croix, Andrew Yogan, J.T. Barnett, Charlie Dodero, Troy Donnay, Danny Kristo, Anthony Duclair, Ben Fanelli, Josh Nicholls, Jason Wilson, Shawn O’Donnell, Jimmy Oligny.

GROUP 2 (9:30 a.m.): Ryan Callahan. Rick Nash, Brad Richards, J.T. Miller, Derek Dorsett, Carl Hagelin, Dominic Moore, Benoit Pouliot, Derick Brassard, Chris Kreider, Darroll Powe, Mats Zuccarello, Arron Asham, Brian Boyle, Marek Hrivik, Taylor Pyatt.

GROUP 3 (11 a.m.): Michael Del Zotto, Dan Girardi, Ryan McDonagh, Marc Staal, Justin Falk, Dylan McIlrath, John Moore, Anton Stralman, Conor Allen, Stu Bickel, Aaron Johnson, Danny Syrvet, Ryan Graves, Tommy Hughes, Brendon Nash, Sam Noreau, Michael Kantor.

GROUP 4 (12:30 a.m.): Johan Hedberg, Henrik Lundqvist, Jason Missiaen, Jeff Malcolm, Cam Talbot.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ra...-roster-including-thursday-on-ice-testing-gro

Noticed none of Trainor, Burke, Stevenson or Josh Graves here. Trainor might be with Buffalo.

 

[haveandare]

From Zipay earlier:

"Brad Richards admits he lost confidence in himself and the head coach last season"

That really grinds my gears. Not that he wasn't confident in Torts, but that he's saying so now. Torts coached him to a cup and a conn smythe. Torts likely lobbied in his favor with NYR brass. Torts saw him suck night after night and kept giving him chances he didn't deserve. Most importantly, Torts isn't here anymore and Richards is coming off a horrible season that was caused, by his own admission, in large part due to his lack of conditioning. He needs to shut up, play hockey and suck less than he did last year. I don't want to hear any complaints or any scapegoating. He's in absolutely no place for that type of crap.

 

[Thirty One]

Noticed none of Trainor, Burke, Stevenson or Josh Graves here. Trainor might be with Buffalo.

Only 57 players on that list so a few are missing. Skapsi and Stajcer too.

 

[aufheben]

Wrist-Concussion
Head of a Cocker Spaniel
Spontaneous Robert De Niro Face

Totally calling him Noodles from now on. Isn't it common to have a few injuries by that age?

From Zipay earlier:

"Brad Richards admits he lost confidence in himself and the head coach last season"

That really grinds my gears. Not that he wasn't confident in Torts, but that he's saying so now. Torts coached him to a cup and a conn smythe. Torts likely lobbied in his favor with NYR brass. Torts saw him suck night after night and kept giving him chances he didn't deserve. Most importantly, Torts isn't here anymore and Richards is coming off a horrible season that was caused, by his own admission, in large part due to his lack of conditioning. He needs to shut up, play hockey and suck less than he did last year. I don't want to hear any complaints or any scapegoating. He's in absolutely no place for that type of crap.

As long as the chicken puts his head back on this season, I don't really care what he says. At least he takes part of the responsibility.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Careful now, we have the best defense in the league. Don't call them soft, you might have a mob here come after you.

Way to spin what he was saying into an attempt to attack everyone here. Rangers D might be "soft" but it's still top-3 in the league.

 

[aufheben]

How is our defense soft? They're literally all physical, except for Moore, which remains to be seen. None of them are psychopaths, but that doesn't make them soft as a hole.

 

[Thirty One]

How is our defense soft? They're literally all physical, except for Moore, which remains to be seen. None of them are psychopaths, but that doesn't make them soft as a hole.

No Doug Murray, no Eric Cairns.

 

[JohnC]

From Zipay earlier:

"Brad Richards admits he lost confidence in himself and the head coach last season"

That really grinds my gears. Not that he wasn't confident in Torts, but that he's saying so now. Torts coached him to a cup and a conn smythe. Torts likely lobbied in his favor with NYR brass. Torts saw him suck night after night and kept giving him chances he didn't deserve. Most importantly, Torts isn't here anymore and Richards is coming off a horrible season that was caused, by his own admission, in large part due to his lack of conditioning. He needs to shut up, play hockey and suck less than he did last year. I don't want to hear any complaints or any scapegoating. He's in absolutely no place for that type of crap.

Gross says differently

@AGrossRecord: Brad Richards says he lost confidence in himself and his coach last season. Tellingly, he never uses Tortorella's name.

 

[Boruto]

A mutual friend of Brad's and Torts's should set up an intervention at a restaurant or something.

"What's he doing here?"