Here's my take on Robbie Ray. He'll either be a one season wonder like Rick Porcello circa 2016 or he'll be another one of those pitchers who doesn't really pitch to their full potential until they're around 30 years or older like Max Scherzer or Jacob DeGrom. Do the Jays chance it in hoping Ray becomes like the latter?
Blue Jays Discussion: That's it: Jays win, but don't get help from TB/WSH & are eliminated from playoff contention
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The main difference with Ray is that it's always been "if only he could stop the walks". The fact he kept his insane K ability to go with limiting walks to virtually an elite degree bodes well for his future so long as he can keep somewhere near that control.
I'm more worried about his arm falling off as he's had a bigger workload than most 29 year old pitchers than I am him regressing back to where he was in 2020.
kb
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He's a narcissist. Everything about him is about him.
It's either about race, or about height.
He needs to STFU
Muston Atthews
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Muston Atthews
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now this other clown (Donnovan Bennett) is saying that Charlie is getting hate because of the pigment of his skin….
GTFO, Jesus Christ
Muston Atthews
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both are loud mouth clowns who manufacture drama
Simulate the season 10 times with the players all playing the same number of games and we probably make the playoffs 7 times and compete for the division 3 times and win it once. Given the performance of the team this year, we are very unlucky to be missing even the wild card game.
Wouldn't surprise if this team won 100 games next year even with the potential subtractions
dredeye
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He’s a great pitcher that I want no part of having on our team. I just can’t stand the pettiness from an incredibly wealthy person. Like give it up man you made it
Yeah, putting all of the underperformance on the manager is silly. Sometimes this stuff just happens.
For the record, the Jays finished one game closer to their Pythag record than they did in 2015. So as long as you thought Gibby needed to be fired because he caused the team to underperform, I guess you have a point.
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Shit is so weak. Nobody gives a shit where Charlie is from or his skin colour.
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It's a shame someone has to win this WC game between the Yankees and the RS.
Blue Jays deserved better fate after coming up one game short of wild card - Sportsnet.ca
Semien, a member of the players association’s influential executive sub-committee who will be busy with the expiring labour agreement this winter, offered a bit more insight into his thinking, noting the various elements that factor in.
But, he also added: “We had the best offence in the major leagues and in my mind, the best starting pitching in the game. How could you not want to be a part of that?”
“Obviously, when you have those things set in stone, there are little pieces to add to get to the next level,” he added. “I'm one of them. I think our bullpen is another one. We also have young guys getting better, so let's see what happens. But I had a great time here. I love the facility and everything that they offered for me to do what I need to do to get ready for a game. And that's all I can ask for sure.”
The competition for him, even in what should be an historic free-agent shortstop market, will be fierce and the San Francisco Giants are expected to try and lure the Bay Area native back home. During the Blue Jays’ recent series in Tampa, they had a senior front office member there to advance scout the Rays, but surely also to keep an eye on Semien.
Money, of course, talks, but so too will his Toronto experience and of the things that will tug at him when it’s decision time, “the passion of the fans is one.”
“Every game for this last week felt like a playoff game,” Semien continued. “And you saw the results from us as an offence when you have that energy and you're just more hyped and every pitch counts. I can remember back in Oakland where we're in the race and the energy wasn't what we had here, to put it lightly. As a player, you feed off that energy. It's the most fun you can ever have at this level, and it really was a playoff atmosphere.”
Semien, a member of the players association’s influential executive sub-committee who will be busy with the expiring labour agreement this winter, offered a bit more insight into his thinking, noting the various elements that factor in.
But, he also added: “We had the best offence in the major leagues and in my mind, the best starting pitching in the game. How could you not want to be a part of that?”
“Obviously, when you have those things set in stone, there are little pieces to add to get to the next level,” he added. “I'm one of them. I think our bullpen is another one. We also have young guys getting better, so let's see what happens. But I had a great time here. I love the facility and everything that they offered for me to do what I need to do to get ready for a game. And that's all I can ask for sure.”
The competition for him, even in what should be an historic free-agent shortstop market, will be fierce and the San Francisco Giants are expected to try and lure the Bay Area native back home. During the Blue Jays’ recent series in Tampa, they had a senior front office member there to advance scout the Rays, but surely also to keep an eye on Semien.
Money, of course, talks, but so too will his Toronto experience and of the things that will tug at him when it’s decision time, “the passion of the fans is one.”
“Every game for this last week felt like a playoff game,” Semien continued. “And you saw the results from us as an offence when you have that energy and you're just more hyped and every pitch counts. I can remember back in Oakland where we're in the race and the energy wasn't what we had here, to put it lightly. As a player, you feed off that energy. It's the most fun you can ever have at this level, and it really was a playoff atmosphere.”
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dredeye
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Everything is racism now. I’m pretty sure a good amount of people loved Cito.
Muston Atthews
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Muston Atthews
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Not according to Bennett, apparently people hated him because of the colour of his skin too
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TheBeastCoast
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Him and his buddy over at TSN use this at every turn they get. Newsflash — no one cares about it. In fact, you bringing attention to something that was a non-issue before makes it worse.
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Brock Boeser Laser Show
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Jays are better than both these teams.
this Yankees lineup is shit.
this Yankees lineup is shit.
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Really tough cheering for either of these teams. I think i hate the Yankees more.
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I so wanted to be hatin on the Rays this weekend. I can’t now.
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