Blue Jays Discussion: That's it: Jays win, but don't get help from TB/WSH & are eliminated from playoff contention

[mikeyz]

Is Cole pitching tomorrow???

It's TBD at the moment.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Is Cole pitching tomorrow???

Doubtful. He'd be on really short rest and the Yankees are guaranteed a tiebreaker spot. He'll go Monday.

 

[mikeyz]

Makes that last loss to the Yanks even more frustrating.

If we had even a somewhat competent manager, that may not have been a loss

 

[canucksfan]

Rays are on another level.

 

[Suntouchable13]

How are the Yankees losing? TB is not playing for anything. They must be really motivated to hurt the Yankees playoff aspirations.

 

[jetsforever]

How are the Yankees losing? TB is not playing for anything. They must be really motivated to hurt the Yankees playoff aspirations.

TB is still the top team in the division and most players don't just give up as soon as they clinch their playoff spot.

 

[Suntouchable13]

TB is still the top team in the division and most players don't just give up as soon as they clinch their playoff spot.

I am not saying they should give up, but they are spanking the Yankees like they owe them money. Yankees should have a lot more to play for.

 

[Muston Atthews]

“Homers are fun”

-George Springer

 

[MS]

I am not saying they should give up, but they are spanking the Yankees like they owe them money. Yankees should have a lot more to play for.

Baseball is far less of an 'effort' sport than NHL/NBA/soccer would be in similar situations. You're executing a skill - whether hitting or pitching - and it would be difficult to just shut that off.

 

[Leafs Captain]

Can WSH score a run?

 

[Saskatoon]

So essentially we need either the yanks or red socks to lose tomorrow? (And win)

 

[TheBeastCoast]

We got ourselves a tie game...come on Washington!

 

[MS]

One can go back through the schedule and see quite a few games the Jays pissed away due to weird managerial decisions and or bullpen screwups. Semien's play against the Tigers.

I mean, in-game mistakes happen. In-game bad bullpen decisions happen (although damn there's been a lot of those).

That game stands out for me because we started a player so bad - and so obviously bad and everyone involved should have known it - that the game was basically wasted and over before the first pitch was even thrown. It just simply should not have happened, and then had the result that absolutely everyone expected.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Annnd Boston is gonna win lol

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Dammit!

 

[Canada4Gold]

Scenarios

1. Jays lose tomorrow they're out

2. Boston and New York win Toronto is out

3. Jays win Boston loses, New York wins, Seattle loses 1 more game. Jays/Boston tiebreaker in Boston, winner goes to New York for the WC game

4. Jays win, Boston wins, New York loses, Seattle loses 1 more game. Jays/Yankees tiebreaker in Toronto, winner goes to Boston for the WC game

5. Jays win, Boston loses, New York wins, Seattle wins both games. 3 way tie for 1 spot. Jays have worst draft position so likely have to win 2 games, the first on the road(likely in Seattle if Boston chooses correctly) and then the 2nd at home(against Boston)

6. Jays win, Boston wins, New York loses, Seattle wins both games. 3 way tie for 1 spot. Jays have best draft position so likely have to win 1 road game against the winner of SEA@NYY.

7. Jays win, Boston loses, New York loses, Seattle loses 1 game. 3 way tie for 2 spots. Boston picks first and will certainly pick playing game 1 at home. Jays Can either choose to play Boston on the road to get in, and if they lose they'd get a 2nd chance to get in playing New York on the road. Or they could choose to face the loser of Boston/New York at home but only have 1 chance.

8. Jays win, Boston loses, New York loses, Seattle wins both games. 4 way tie for 2 spots. I'm not sure who we'd face but it's a single elimination game and since we have the 2nd selection, it would almost certainly be at home.

 

[Nineteen67]

NL west could go to a tie breaking game 163.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

NL west could go to a tie breaking game 163.

Now THAT should be the outcome for those two juggernauts.

 

[EpochLink]

Now THAT should be the outcome for those two juggernauts.

It’s funny, it was supposed to be the Dodgers and Padres battling for the NL West crown this year.

But no one thought the Giants would come storming out the gate, that threw a wrench in San Diego’s plans. The Dodgers stayed competitive while the Padres were caught up in their own hype.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Do you people like video game numbers?

.359/.537/.659
27.5% BB%
11.5% K%
.490 wOBA
205 wRC+

Juan Soto's 2nd half.

 

[Nineteen67]

Now THAT should be the outcome for those two juggernauts.

On one hand I’m not sure it’s even worth it for the Dodgers to risk playing the extra game and use up arms.
On the other STL is hotter than hades.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

It’s funny, it was supposed to be the Dodgers and Padres battling for the NL West crown this year.

But no one thought the Giants would come storming out the gate, that threw a wrench in San Diego’s plans. The Dodgers stayed competitive while the Padres were caught up in their own hype.

What the Giants have done this year has been unreal. A fountain of youth for their hitters? Crawford having his best year by a mile, Posey and Longoria turned back the clock, Belt with another good year...
And Wade Jr?! Where did he come from?!

We thought their pitching was going to be good and maybe keep them around .500, but it's elite. Logan Webb's breakout party has arrived early (future Cy Young winner), Gausman and Desclafani are studs, and they revived Alex Wood's career by altering his mound posture for an improved slider. Even Cueto is fine as a #5.

 

[trellaine201]

Are we still alive with a Mariners win?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

On one hand I’m not sure it’s even worth it for the Dodgers to risk playing the extra game and use up arms.
On the other STL is hotter than hades.

It would definitely be worth it for the Dodgers. You don't want your season to come down to getting low babip'd by Adam Wainwright or have red hot Goldschmidt and O'Neill tee off on you.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Are we still alive with a Mariners win?

Yeah we'd be tied with them