Would be more than happy locking him up long term, 6 - 8 years, at $5M AAV. Secure our starting goalie position for the long haul at a reasonable cap hit.
Player Discussion Thatcher Demko
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I’d probably consider that. More in line with the comparable range.
I don’t think the Canucks will do it. Personally, I’d do a one year bridge unless that means he would expire as a UFA.
Not sure when he becomes a UFA?
deckercky
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Demko is much less proven than Gibson when he signed for 8x$6.4m.
Demko is starting to show he's likely a legit starter, but he's no proven to be elite.
I could see a longer contract being sought by both parties, but realistically, the cap hit on a longer contract would start with a 4.
Demko is starting to show he's likely a legit starter, but he's no proven to be elite.
I could see a longer contract being sought by both parties, but realistically, the cap hit on a longer contract would start with a 4.
Which likely wouldn't make sense for Demko. I see a 2 year deal which takes him to UFA at around the Blackwood cap hit of $3 mill per.
Demko, in terms of starting, is where Blackwood was last season, getting his first shot at the majority of the games.
Not enough sample size for Demko to decide to go term.
Goalie contracts, you can't afford to be wrong like SJ was with Jones. They locked him up a year before his last deal expired and he went downhill and they are stuck with him. Very little movement in the goalie market. Markstrom would have been retained if they didn't have Demko. Up to both sides to decide if the sample size is enough to warrant a long term deal. I don't think they can do term because of the extra year on Holtby. That's a good $2 mill more than another quality backup. Probably have to do a 1 year deal, then go term afterwards.
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Bojack Horvatman
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Demko is UFA eligable in 2023. Any extension over a year and he is a UFA. If we believe he is our guy it may be better to show it, and give him a bit term at reasononable price instead of nickel and dimeing him.
I’m not for nickel and dining him. But to commit to a goalie you need to be right or you are seriously screwed.
We’ve seen one year wonders. I think they do 1 year then if he continues to play well they do term.
He has 2 years before UFA, so I don't see 3 years for him. Max 2 as he's arbitration eligible.
Demko isn’t a one year wonder... he has a long track record of being a dominant goalie. I’m comfortable moving forward him and locking him up.
It's the smartest thing to do. I'm not 100% sold, but you either walk him to UFA for a bargain salary (when the team isn't even expecting to contend) of you commit to him. They've already allowed the team MVP of the previous seasons to walk so he could get this chance, he's taking it. I'm pretty sure we don't want to be paying him Vasilevski/Bobrovsky money when the team actually wants to be contending.
M2B's 6 year $5.8m might be a bit high on the AAV, but I think it's possible. Buys his whole prime.
Getting him for Blackwood money in the shocking reboot portion doesn't really benefit the club moving forward.
So great to see Demko solidify himself as the starter. He's been excellent over the last stretch of wins.
The team is also playing way better in front of him too. Like not amazing, but not giving up odd man rushes and breakaways every couple of minutes.
The team is also playing way better in front of him too. Like not amazing, but not giving up odd man rushes and breakaways every couple of minutes.
In terms of goalies who were RFAs, and just a couple of years away from UFA who got big contracts, you have Vasilevsky, Helly, Gibson, Jones, Andersen, Rask who are currently on their contracts. Vasilevsky has the hardware, while the rest range from $5.75 mill from Jones to $7 mill for Rask. Andersen is at $6 mill, Helly at $6.2 mil, and Gibson at $6.4 mill.
You just need to be sure. There is no hiding a goalie.
Think they do 1 year at around $3 - $3.25 mill, then they lock him up for term in the $6 mill plus range.
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Demko could prove to deserve a deal around those dollars and with being, but Benning signed Holtby to a second year at 4.5. Where does the cap room come from to pay Demko, while still paying Holtby?
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This is the most likely outcome. Once Holtby signed for 2 years, it was all but baked in.
I just think of Cory Schneider. If you wait until he's 29 to lock him in it's much more likely to blow up in your face.
I don't see a 1 year deal working for Demko, what is the benefit to him? I think they'll go 3 years similar to Schneider and Markstrom's deals here in the past.
That's a big bet. A lot can happen to goaltenders and Demko isn't without an injury history. I for sure won't do an 8 year deal. 6 is the max I would go.
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How can we afford him the way he is playing? Legit question. We are already looking cap strapped with Pete and Quinn...
Worst thing you can do is a 3-year deal. Puts us right back in the position we were in with Markstrom where we'd be looking at a 5-6 year deal for a 29 y/o goalie.
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If Benning didn’t sign Holtby to a second year, at 4.5, would the cap cost for Demko be an issue? Again this is the consequence of no planning.
But it’s the only one they can afford to fit on the cap.
I highly doubt Demko takes 1 year so it’s either 3 or 5/6 imo.
This is where the team absolutely has to sacrifice assets to get a couple bad contracts out of here.
You prefer long term now as well?
Obviously I’m assuming he finishes in the .910 to .920 range in 35-40 games this season.
One year sets him up to use Arb to get to UFA after 2 years.
Two years walks him to ufa in seasons they expect not to contend.
3 years walks to 29 and only gets one UFA year (similar to Schneider and Markstrom).
4 and 5 are uncharted but probably the way to go. I’d be fine with 3. He’ll be 29. If he’s Markstrom or better at 39 give him the extension.
Benning being super conservative with his goalie development. No different than the 2nd year he gave Nilsson a couple of years back. Canucks probably could have taken Dubnyk at his full contract from Minny for basically a swap of draft positions. Or Jake Allen. Former starters. But, he wanted extra insurance which he didn't need to do.
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