Post-Game Talk: That was unexpected! Jets beat VGK 4-3 in OT

[Mortimer Snerd]

Lowry deciding to stay out there when Maurice called him to the bench speaks volumes about his character!

Knowing Reeves was taking the draw to drop the gloves and handling it like a boss was the TSN turning point for me.

That was a shit move by Gallant - there should be league discipline for a coach doing that.

Good on Lowry for standing up, even more so for winning the fight. I think it was a turning point.

But that said, that kind of fighting in hockey shouldn't exist. It isn't manly. It is childish.

The 'hit' wasn't something VGK should have been looking for revenge over. All Lowry did was brace himself for the impact. Tuch ran into him. It wasn't high. What was that SN a***ole talking about? Legal, clean, shoulder height, to the front.

 

[kanadalainen]

Special edition VGK Dostoevsky guy report.

Two out of a possible Five Dostoevsky guys for this HIGHLY entertaining game. This has to be one of my all-time favourite Jets games ever, certainly the best game I have seen them play in Vegas.

The two Dostoevsky guys are strictly in place for the first 10 min of play. In the post-game, Wheeler mentioned that the first period of a back to back are always the toughest, and you could see the truth in that statement yesterday. The Jets rallied and chased The Dostoevsky effect back into its hole.

This notwithstanding I found this weekend's hockey to be incredible, not just because the Jets won, but because how the team hung in there. Certainly crediting different players in two completely differently-styled contests. That is something that is uncoachable, a reflection that this team has guts.

I will take this fire wagon brand of "blood and guts hockey" all day.

I suggest: a new bronze statue erected beside Timothy Eaton (at the Arena) of Adam Lowry calmly removing his gloves after the fake face-off, with the inscription below (parallel) quoting his statement to Maurice "I've got this".

Thus far I've been trotting out Sonnets based on Romeo and Juliet, but if the lads keep this up, I'm going full Henry V.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Watch it again ... the reason why that PP worked was because Wheeler was blocking Subban's vision something the opposing teams do against the Jets goalies all the time and scored.

Having someone, anyone in front of the net causing problems for the opposing goalie, is something that we should been doing 1.5 years ago. Hopefully now that it worked it will be a staple.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Apart from a 5-7 minute stretch in the first the Jets hung with the Knights outplayed them in the third and ot.

That stretch in the first was brutal though, wasn't it.

The 2 giveaways by Morrissey were practically like own goals. Brossoit didn't stand a chance. But both Bro swat and Morrissey settled down and played well the rest of the way.

 

[Teemusalami204]

So you want to see Lowry suspended more?

Never said that. I want the jets to not be the softest team in the league. Obviously lowry sees this too as his aggressiveness has turned up significantly

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I liked Brossoit. None of the goals were his fault at all and he shut the door from there on. A 4th goal by VGK would have killed the Jets momentum.

Bro's numbers may be bad so far this year but his play has been much better than those numbers suggest. He has been a victim of the team in front of him in many cases.

 

[NotCommitted]

That was a nice, entertaining and well deserved win.

Now fire Maurice, let him go out on a high.

EDIT: or figure out something else for him to do, maybe put him in charge of the Jets fishing squad where he can not-coach veteran fisher Byfuglien.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Purrrrroh got his game in gear tonight - nice to him contributing - I was concerned.

Anyway, considering a back to back and how we looked the previous night, this was a different team out there.
So, who get's the credit? Note that most of the Mo haters are not contributing to the PGT - why is that?

HTH, the team winning 1 game doesn't make Mau a better coach. All the criticisms still apply. Better?

 

[Atoyot]

I liked Brossoit. None of the goals were his fault at all and he shut the door from there on. A 4th goal by VGK would have killed the Jets momentum.

Bro's numbers may be bad so far this year but his play has been much better than those numbers suggest. He has been a victim of the team in front of him in many cases.

The Pacioretty goal was very bad on Brossoit's part and he overplayed the Schmidt goal, slid himself right out of position. You can say he didn't have enough time to react properly because of the giveaway on the Schmidt goal but there's no excuse for the Pacioretty goal.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Lot's of people trashing Potato on these forums -- but I thought he played pretty good tonight. I was impressed -not to bad at all.

Some of the bottom of the barrel players have been better than expected, or not total garbage. Bourque has been reasonably good from the start. Bitetto hasn't been horrible and has even had some good moments. Both Dahlstrom and even Sbisa have been OK at times, decent #8 & #9 level Dmen.

None of them should play on any healthy NHL team. But they are holding their own as emergency fill-ins.

 

[Channelcat]

Is Josh hurt? His passes are sloppy, his timing is questionable, there's something off

No, I think the only thing that's "off" is peoples expectations.

 

[scelaton]

Some loosely-connected thoughts, mostly defensive:

-Started watching at 3-1 Vegas, so the game I saw was clearly in favour of the Jets. Props to them for pushing right to the end on a B to B, with only 5 D.

-Speaking of defense, Poolman is way over his head on the first pairing. After going -2 in ~ 6 minutes of playing time, the D did much better without him. Morrissey simply needs more skilled support on the first pairing.

-The much-maligned Pionk deserves huge kudos. He played almost half the game and settled Morrissey down. He is no superstar but then neither is Trouba.

-For fun: Trouba has 6 points for the year (tied for 50th among D), half of which he got in game 1 against the Jets and half of which are PP points. I have referenced his piss-poor advanced stats previously.
Pionk is tied for 19th in scoring by D, with most of his 9 points coming at 5x5.

-For all the bi*****g about him here, Scheifele is tied for 13th among NHL centers. Not quite is good as Ehlers (3T), (Laine 5T), Connor (13), but better than slow-starting Wheeler. BTW, I wish people would just leave Wheeler alone for a while. He will find his place (second line and net-front on PP1) and point-production in time.

-Laine looked great last night but I'm not upset he was left off PP1. That PP needed to be blown up and Laine (through no fault of his own) was the most predictable part of it. His health is a bigger issue than his deployment at this point.

Great, great feature on Gallant after the game. Leave him alone, too.

Turns out the refs are not biased against the Jets after all--leave them alone as well.

While I'm at it, Maurice made some damn fine decisions last night, so leave him a....a...never mind, I'm outa here.

 

[folix]

That result shocked me, and good on the Jets. Outside a deplorable 5mins of hockey they played well. If they can play like this I will be thrilled to eat my plate of crow.

 

[Psych0dad]

Maybe he asked to be on PP2...

Didn't Maurice claim this about why he did it in 16-17 season?

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Woke up this morning and saw the score.

Always satisfying watching the Vegas Golden Losers lose.

Boy, that Reaves

Lowry's hit looked like a clean hit to me. Good response by Lowry "I got this"

Today's going to be a good day.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

The Pacioretty goal was very bad on Brossoit's part and he overplayed the Schmidt goal, slid himself right out of position. You can say he didn't have enough time to react properly because of the giveaway on the Schmidt goal but there's no excuse for the Pacioretty goal.

I disagree. The 2 turnovers by Morrissey gave the goalie no chance as long as the VGK player made a decent shot. Hard to blame him for the PP goal either.

 

[Psych0dad]

Not almost in a full year he hasn't. Their trying different things. He will still get his looks.

The problem in PP1 has been Wheeler losing possession when pressured. They should have replaced him in it or put him net front and let Laine (or someone else like Scheifele take the right side half boards). Have a good shooter on both sides and let Wheeler provide screen.

 

[Teemusalami204]

I disagree. The 2 turnovers by Morrissey gave the goalie no chance as long as the VGK player made a decent shot. Hard to blame him for the PP goal either.

What is going on with morrisey? I'm hoping I wasn't wrong about trouba all along and he carried josh.

Sure seems like half the player he was last couple seasons.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

@Zhamnov5GoalGame


How do you know that "He literally creamed his pants during the Ducks series". Literally, as in actually, really. Then, "don't tell me, I don't want to know", with an extraneous ' in want.

Galley is a dick and not good at his job. No argument from me on that.

I see yes.
Sorry no I have no evidence of that claim.
Just an assumption.
Boy would he would have loved to talk about how crappy we were only to have to write the comeback off as lucky.

 

[robertocarlos]

HFJets posters obviously know nothing about injuries. Did you see Laine beasting on that last goal. He willed that play.

 

[Snot Rocket]

Is Josh hurt? His passes are sloppy, his timing is questionable, there's something off

Yeah, I am thinking the same thing...posted it last PGT.
He seems off, his typical Morrissey agility seems off, passes are off..

 

[Atoyot]

I disagree. The 2 turnovers by Morrissey gave the goalie no chance as long as the VGK player made a decent shot. Hard to blame him for the PP goal either.

The turnover excuse doesn't work for a shot that happened several seconds later. Schmidt I can understand, but he had all the time in the world to get set for the Pacioretty shot, and it wasn't a decent shot, and he let it in. It was a bad goal in my opinion.

 

[brendan smith]

That was a **** move by Gallant - there should be league discipline for a coach doing that.

Good on Lowry for standing up, even more so for winning the fight. I think it was a turning point.

But that said, that kind of fighting in hockey shouldn't exist. It isn't manly. It is childish.

The 'hit' wasn't something VGK should have been looking for revenge over. All Lowry did was brace himself for the impact. Tuch ran into him. It wasn't high. What was that SN a***ole talking about? Legal, clean, shoulder height, to the front.

I agree with you 100%. If Tuch didnt just get back from injury, that fight doesnt happen.

This shouldn’t have been a consideration in deciding to send Reeves to the face off circle. It’s also possible that Gallant took into account Lowry’s recent transgression following his return from suspension.

Having said that, I understand the overreaction and hypersensitivity to the hit considering both Tuch and Lowry’s recent return from injury/suspension. The interpretation of the situation seemed to lend itself to a number of aggravating variables confounded by recency bias.

Scott Oak (who we all know is a friend of the Reeves family) said it best in questioning Reeves about the ethics surrounding this kind of response after a clean hit.

However, he should have asked the question to Gallant...

 

[robertocarlos]

I liked Brossoit. None of the goals were his fault at all and he shut the door from there on. A 4th goal by VGK would have killed the Jets momentum.

Bro's numbers may be bad so far this year but his play has been much better than those numbers suggest. He has been a victim of the team in front of him in many cases.

Not his fault per se, but after a whole bunch of crap plays in front of him you would hope he makes a save. But you can't save what you don't see. He didn't look good but he made up for it by stopping the rest.

 

[robertocarlos]

Scott Oak is a gutless puke.