jackjohnson
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And their goalie isnt any better. Skinner got lit up in preseason against a bunch of ahlers.
Tell me why I shouldn’t worry about the Canucks slipping
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You are confused if you think I said the team wasn't capable of exceeding 90 points. In fact, I said the opposite.I dont think you have good hockey knowledge if you think this roster is not even able to get sub 90 in points. Sprong and Lekker even not making the team would still leave Hoglander on 2nd line who is capable of 25 goals and Suter on the top line just like last season plus the additions of sprong, Heinen, sherwood on the bottom line. You also forgot Joshua and Garland being the best 3rd line in the league. Its ok if you miss last season, thinking Canucks will miss playoff due to their forward depth is wild
If you take a little more time when reading, you'll see I was supportive of your opinion that the teams floor is making the playoffs, or as you shared, baring any catastrophic injuries.
JarvisFunk
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You should worry based on last years shooting percentage alone.
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That season was also a year of two coaches where they were 18-25-3 under Boudreau and then 20-12-4 under Tocchet. Hardly a consistent season. Boudreau is a good coach but his hiring was suspect (hired by owner after firing Green/Benning and before hiring new management) and wasn't a good fit.
As a Canuck fan, negative consequences of a shooting percentage regression aren't even in my top 10 concerns.
Lindholm wasn't that big of a loss (was a 40-point guy and clutch two-way player at 3rd C, with possible rebound potential but also prohibitive price tag; let Boston take that risk), same with Zadorov (he had that possible breakout against Nashville but to pay him at that price is just too steep). DeBrusk might not break out himself either but at worst he's a two-way threat that we have several seasons (Hopefully shorter) to let him gel with Petey or Miller. Desharnais, Forbort, Soucy and Myers are, at worst, stabilizers on the back end with the size and toughness to protect the net. Silovs also has looked sharp at least in preseason, and with him and Lankinen I think they can at least stay afloat while Demko is out. Lastly, with his savvy cap management (going within $100k's of the cap ceiling, staggering major contracts) Allvin's built a sustainable team and system and I trust that the product on ice is likely greater than the sum of its parts (e.g. Petey and Miller can elevate some middle-6 guys to be top-6/ low-end top-line wingers) so we'd have depth like we haven't seen for awhile.
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It seems people have been talking about Canucks shooting percentage since Hughes was a baby. Many have pointed out that their shooting percentage and PDO normalized in the 2nd half of last season but keep preaching it like it will affect Canucks performance this year
if you also notice, Canucks did add a bunch of forwards and one that seems to be very productive in goals per minute in Sprong 
jackjohnson
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You forgot to mention how Alvin has efficiently used cap space to bring in contributors. Sprong for 800k, Lankinen for less than a million, Sherwood and Heinen for cheap. These arent scrubs, they all have some good strength in areas we lacked last season. Its a genius type of team building we have lacked when Benning the clown was in charge.
Mattilaus
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Why shouldn't you worry?
Because it's just game man. Why you heff to be mad?
Because it's just game man. Why you heff to be mad?
1. Teams don't 'regress to average'. Some teams are legitimately better at shooting than others, either due to skill or system, much like some teams have better goaltending than others. We were right at the top of the league in 22-23, also. The Canucks are basically the polar opposite of the Carolina Hurricanes who are at the bottom of the SH% charts every year because their system is basically to fire pucks on net from everywhere. It's pretty well documented that the Canucks players in Tocchet's system are told to hold onto the puck and work for high-percentage shots rather than shooting from everywhere. And the team has lots of quality shooters when they get those chances.
2. The big blip in SH% was in 4 blowouts in the first 12 games of the season where they outscored the opposition 29-3. That blip didn't really contribute to winning games, and the team kept winning when it did regress later in the season. Ironically, if the team had performed *worse* in those 4 games and won them 3-1 or whatever the spreadsheet monkeys would think that the team's identical results were *more* sustainable.
3. The team is actually deeper offensively than last year. Right now there are 12 players on the roster who scored at a 30+ point ES clip last year.
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1. Canucks were 7th in 22/23 and 26th in 21/22 with mostly the same core. 5v5 shooting % is pretty all over the map like that. There isn't a special system to increase shooting %. You'll see that this season.
2. The slump in shooting % lasted half the season. Canucks were shooting worse, and winning % slipped a bit.
3. If you say so. I would bet they score less goals.
Cut last year’s goal differential in half and they are still third in the division by goal differential.
They could have a Calgary-style implosion but otherwise I’m not sure which middling team in the division or conference surprises and jumps over them.
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They'll be a worse team than they were last year but they'll probably sit comfortably in the 2nd spot in the Pacific after Edmonton since it's so weak.
They maybe tried to leave here because in November months it's -32! Can you imagine?!
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Yeah, +23 last season was 6-8th in the conference territory.
I expect them to be 5-8th in the Conference this year. That is probably in line with their established level from last season.
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Ah yes. Scoring first, in both games and getting points in both games. With the backup goaltender.
While Edmonton gets shut out and Colorado gets the doors blown off them for 8 goals
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I'm not really worried about them. Even if they take a bit of a step back this year I believe in this team. I believe they've successfully made the transition to a playoff contender (not necessarily CUP contender yet).
I'm just worried about Pettersson, as are a lot of the fans. The situation is bad.
The spine of Miller, Hughes and Demko (assuming he is able to overcome whatever injury he's dealing with) though? Top quality, and we've got a solid management group who I believe can build a good team around them, both through the draft and trades/signings.
I'm just worried about Pettersson, as are a lot of the fans. The situation is bad.
The spine of Miller, Hughes and Demko (assuming he is able to overcome whatever injury he's dealing with) though? Top quality, and we've got a solid management group who I believe can build a good team around them, both through the draft and trades/signings.
Still cracking up the OP had Lafftery and Mik as key losses. Just shows you people don't watch outside their favorite team
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Still cracking up the OP had Lafftery and Mik as key losses. Just shows you people don't watch outside their favorite team
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not to mention that all of the bottom 6 additions have been huge or moved, and that Lindholm and Zadarov have not been good
Less to worry about this year compared to last year when they were on a PDO heater to start the season which dropped dramatically in the second half.
They're playing great 5 on 5 hockey so far this year according to advanced stats. See them placing 2nd and 3rd in the div and playing Vegas or the Oilers in the first round. Probably right around expectations this year if you ignore all the homer fans that deny advanced stats.
They're playing great 5 on 5 hockey so far this year according to advanced stats. See them placing 2nd and 3rd in the div and playing Vegas or the Oilers in the first round. Probably right around expectations this year if you ignore all the homer fans that deny advanced stats.
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