Teams in Cap Hell for 2023/2024

[Golden_Jet]

I literally used his whole first name in the mock lineup

Thanks I was looking further down, at the numbers, missed it.
He definitely won’t sign for that, he wanted in the 4-5 range and term, when Ottawa traded him.
900k and 1 year, won’t even be close, even coming off an injury.
There is no games played bonus, only bonuses are for 35+

 

[Osakahaus]

No it's not, it's completely fine. There are just a lot of bad GM's out there.

okay Gary, keep saying lies

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

No it's not, it's completely fine. There are just a lot of bad GM's out there.

Right? Like, ok, Covid led to the cap not increasing as expected, but GMs have had years to adapt to that now. Everyone knows the cap and how many players you have to sign, player expectations take the cap into consideration, it’s a perfectly fine system- and GMs still either botch it or go all-in for one year only.

It’s like survivor auction, where the players each get $500 or somethin to big on food. You can’t know the amount, overspend, then claim that the money wasn’t enough, that’s not on the system.

 

[Dread Clawz]

okay Gary, keep saying lies

Funny how Waddell operates under the cap every year yet he has no problems perennially icing a contending team. Zito does just fine while continually cleaning up messes left by Tallon. BriseBois had 2 Cups and 3 straight SCF appearances operating under the same cap as everyone else. Nill has Dallas with 2 final four appearances in 4 years and a team that looks like it's only getting better. No major cap problems.

There are a few good GMs out there who don't continuously shoot themselves in the foot. And then there is just a large pile of bad GMs.

 

[Osakahaus]

Funny how Waddell operates under the cap every year yet he has no problems perennially icing a contending team. Zito does just fine while continually cleaning up messes left by Tallon. BriseBois had 2 Cups and 3 straight SCF appearances operating under the same cap as everyone else. Nill has Dallas with 2 final four appearances in 4 years and a team that looks like it's only getting better. No major cap problems.

There are a few good GMs out there who don't continuously shoot themselves in the foot. And then there is just a large pile of bad GMs.

Okay Gary, keep saying that the sunbelt will succeed

 

[Dread Clawz]

Okay Gary, keep saying that the sunbelt will succeed

Lol did you see the Stanley Cup Finals? The Final Four? The sunbelt HAS succeeded. This has nothing to do with the sunbelt though. It's just a hilarious coincidence that all the Canadian teams and most northern teams have had bad GMs, when most of them are supposed to have all the advantages of money, resources, reputation etc. I mean let's be honest, some of us here could run these teams better as a part-time job on the weekends while drinking. There's nothing to describe most management teams in the NHL except pure ineptitide and incompetence.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Lol did you see the Stanley Cup Finals? The Final Four? The sunbelt HAS succeeded. This has nothing to do with the sunbelt though. It's just a hilarious coincidence that all the Canadian teams and most northern teams have had bad GMs, when most of them are supposed to have all the advantages of money, resources, reputation etc. I mean let's be honest, some of us here could run these teams better as a part-time job on the weekends while drinking. There's nothing to describe most management teams in the NHL except pure ineptitide and incompetence.

Otherwise stated, if their GMs were so good, then why are they constantly revolving doors?

 

[Dread Clawz]

Otherwise stated, if their GMs were so good, then why are they constantly revolving doors?

Exactly, you have less turnover from the staff at your local Wendy's. Yet..."no, it's all a conspiracy against Canadian teams....from those powerful southern markets with all their sway and tradition" lol. I can't....

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Exactly, you have less turnover from the staff at your local Wendy's. Yet..."no, it's all a conspiracy against Canadian teams....from those powerful southern markets with all their sway and tradition" lol. I can't....

The "tradition" stuff is particularly amusing, considering that there are only a handful of Phil Kessels still playing in the NHL who can even remember as a child one of these "tradition" teams winning the Cup .... if they remember it at all. To a bunch of kids born in 2000 or later, you might as well be talking about the Boston Americans winning the World Series in 1903.

 

[innitfam]

Okay Gary, keep saying that the sunbelt will succeed

A sunbelt team has either been to the final or won the Cup 6 of the last 7 years.

 

[Osakahaus]

A sunbelt team has either been to the final or won the Cup 6 of the last 7 years.

Hmmmmmmmmm I WONDER WHY

 

[M88K]

Hmmmmmmmmm I WONDER WHY

Because the players don't get depressed from the shitty winter weather?

 

[innitfam]

Hmmmmmmmmm I WONDER WHY

You tell me what the 17 Nashville team the 18 VGK team, the 20-22 TBL teams and the 23 VGK team have in common. You tell me the grand conspiracy how the league rigged it for all these teams.

 

[Seven0two]

Las Vegas
80 mil cap, 3 mil in cap space
20 roster players signed
Aiden Hill is a UFA
Not sure what's up with Lehner but if he comes off LTIR they are 2 mil over the cap
Barbashev, Bleuger, Kessell UFA's - those are holes that have to be filled
Not the worst of the bunch but still will have to make some moves and will lose key good pieces.

This is incorrect. VGK is currently sitting on $3,462,516 of cap space with Lehner's hit accounted for. Trading him away or him staying on LTIR opens up an additional $5m of space.

I'm assuming that Blueger and Kessell will walk and VGK will sign:

Howden: 1 x $1,128,000
Dorofeyev: 2 x $834,400
(both projected by Evolving Hockey).

Even without Lehner on LTIR those signings fit under the cap and leave VGK with 13-F, 7-D and 2-G on the roster. Still, I assume that VGK will likely try to trade away the remaining two years on Lehner's deal if he's able to play and try to re-sign Hill somewhere in the 4 x $4m range. My guess is that someone would be willing to give him a little more elsewhere but not enough for him to leave the defensive structure that helped him thrive.

Would love to figure out a way to keep Barbashev as well, but don't see how it works without clearing out more space. Martinez with only one year left on his contract might be intriguing to a team with a young d corps that's hoping to take a step forward, but I would guess that it's probably most likely that he just stays in Vegas to finish out his contract.