Friedman: Teams calling Jets about Defencemen

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Or Winnipeg lol

Seriously

Because they save money and add a 3rd line forward (plus pick(s)). This thread is about adding a 3rd line forward, no?

How, exactly, does this help Anaheim?

Because they get a decent prospect + pick for a player with no future with them?

 

[GOilers88]

Oilers could use LHD. Don’t want Dillon though, didn’t want him when he was available as a UFA and not surprised Winnipeg would be happy to move on from him.

Oilers could use some cap space, Stanley presents an opportunity to save some Cap if we can send a more expensive Winger. But there’s no guarantee that Stanley upgrades the Left side even the bottom pairing.

If he ain’t a legit top 4 guy I’d say move on.

 

[TotalHomer]

Do the Jets have any interest in a top six RW Duclair? He's on a great contract but even then it's going to be hard to fit him under the cap after he comes back from his injury. The Panthers would probably want Heinola who's still on his ELC.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Lmao, that's definitely a bad sign. If you are bleeding more chances than anyone except a 20 year old rookie and a #4 dman the Habs are using as their 1st pairing.

Jets have played 8 playoff teams plus Arizona

 

[Hunter368]

Kerfoot is a Swiss Army knife, he doesn’t have to be stuck or relegated to a third line role. He’s proven he can play up and down the lineup and he may inject some life into our T6 scoring which is needed.
Not sure what a trade would entail but I’d be ok with Kerfoot in the T9 somewhere

Barring injuries of course:

Who is Kerfoot bumping out of our top six? He plays center/LW so:

Mark or PLD at center? No chance

KC or Cole? No chance

I see zero chance for Kerfoot to ever get a sniff of a top six role on this roster barring injury of course.

Could Kerfoot play 3rd line? Yes I mentioned that already, but do the Jets want that? The 3rd line has chemistry now and is playing well. Do the Jets really want a more "offensive" type of center/winger on that line? At best it would be a big risk IMO.

Kerfoot is a fine 3rd line player, too good for a 4th line and not good enough for top six. Any trade for him would mean a major restructuring of our 3rd line, what it looks like and what its purpose is......just don't see that being a priority for the Jets when the 3rd line has been good so far. Not hating on Kerfoot, but he is what he is.

 

[gojetsgo]

Do the Jets have any interest in a top six RW Duclair? He's on a great contract but even then it's going to be hard to fit him under the cap after he comes back from his injury. The Panthers would probably want Heinola who's still on his ELC.

do the jets want to trade their best d prospect for a guy coming off a serious injury and only has 1 year remaining after this one... hmmm let me think on this...

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Is Dillon any good any more? The Oilers could sure use a guy like him if he's still effective.

As a Jets fan, I’d trade Pionk, Stanley, and Schmidt before I moved Dillon. Other Jets fans seem to view him differently than I do.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

TO EDM: Brendon Dillon
TO WIN: Jesse Puljujarvi + 2nd round pick

Oilers get a defensive stud and Pulji will be properly used in Winnipeg.

 

[Hunter368]

TO EDM: Brendon Dillon
TO WIN: Jesse Puljujarvi + 2nd round pick

Oilers get a defensive stud and Pulji will be properly used in Winnipeg.

Thats a interesting offer and I think fair. IMO

 

[TotalHomer]

do the jets want to trade their best d prospect for a guy coming off a serious injury and only has 1 year remaining after this one... hmmm let me think on this...

He's almost certainly going to be fine after the injury, it's not like he's 35 (just turned 27) but it's understandable that teams wants to see him play first. The contract is another thing but the Panthers should be able recoup a first round pick for a 25-30 goal scorer making 3 million, if nothing else is on the table.

Saying Heinola is your best d prospect doesn't mean much. Hellenbuck makes everyone look better on that defense, which last time I watched was a total gong show against Vegas. And Heinola can't even crack the lineup? Seems like you're overvaluing a prospect vs. known commodity...

 

[Captain97]

Jets have played 8 playoff teams plus Arizona

Okay,

Habs have played:
Leafs
Red Wings
Caps
Pens
Yotes
Stars
Sabres
Blues

Only 2 of those teams are below 500 atm.

What I said stands, if you are bleeding more chances than any pair but a 20 year old rookie + a #4dman being used as a top pair that's a problem for what is supposed to be a legit top pair.

 

[gojetsgo]

He's almost certainly going to be fine after the injury, it's not like he's 35 (just turned 27) but it's understandable that teams wants to see him play first. The contract is another thing but the Panthers should be able recoup a first round pick for a 25-30 goal scorer making 3 million, if nothing else is on the table.

Saying Heinola is your best d prospect doesn't mean much. Hellenbuck makes everyone look better on that defense, which last time watched was a total gong show against Vegas. And Heinola can't even crack the lineup? Seems like you're overvaluing a prospect vs. known commodity...

duclair played good on a very stacked team and is now coming off a major injury and unlikely to help the jets this year, if heinola required waivers he would be on the team right now but since he doesn't he was the one that was sent down... also one of the reasons jets would be willing to trade a dman is to get him into the lineup

it's funny how every time someone is told no to a trade the player they wanted is suddenly not good anyways and we'd be lucky to get the player they were offering...

 

[TotalHomer]

duclair played good on a very stacked team and is now coming off a major injury and unlikely to help the jets this year, if heinola required waivers he would be on the team right now but since he doesn't he was the one that was sent down... also one of the reasons jets would be willing to trade a dman is to get him into the lineup

it's funny how every time someone is told no to a trade the player they wanted is suddenly not good anyways and we'd be lucky to get the player they were offering...

Yes, waiver eligibility / contract issues come into play with fringe players. And sure Heinola has potential and has shown flashes but let's not pretend he is some top pairing defenseman waiting to be unleashed. Never said he was a bad player.

It's fine if you don't like the trade idea but no need to act like the value was horrible. I thought it could have met the needs of both teams (obviously after Duke has shown he's recovered fully, which would probably be around the TDL).

 

[Huffer]

Yes, waiver eligibility / contract issues come into play with fringe players. And sure Heinola has potential and has shown flashes but let's not pretend he is some top pairing defenseman waiting to be unleashed. Never said he was a bad player.

It's fine if you don't like the trade idea but no need to act like the value was horrible. I thought it could have met the needs of both teams (obviously after Duke has shown he's recovered fully, which would probably be around the TDL).

Unless it's for the final piece for a cup run (which the Jets are not on), can't see any team trading away a 21 year old defenseman who's been playing very well in the AHL for a winger with 1 more year on his deal after this one.

 

[jgimp]

Barring injuries of course:
Who is Kerfoot bumping out of our top six? He plays center/LW so:
Mark or PLD at center? No chance
KC or Cole? No chance
I see zero chance for Kerfoot to ever get a sniff of a top six role on this roster barring injury of course.
Could Kerfoot play 3rd line? Yes I mentioned that already, but do the Jets want that? The 3rd line has chemistry now and is playing well. Do the Jets really want a more "offensive" type of center/winger on that line? At best it would be a big risk IMO.
Kerfoot is a fine 3rd line player, too good for a 4th line and not good enough for top six. Any trade for him would mean a major restructuring of our 3rd line, what it looks like and what its purpose is......just don't see that being a priority for the Jets when the 3rd line has been good so far. Not hating on Kerfoot, but he is what he is.

 

[TotalHomer]

Unless it's for the final piece for a cup run (which the Jets are not on), can't see any team trading away a 21 year old defenseman who's been playing very well in the AHL for a winger with 1 more year on his deal after this one.

Makes sense although I don't know how much Heinola has fallen. If this was rookie Heinola I could see why the Jets wouldn't even pick up the phone.

All depends obviously on how big the need is for a top six RW but GMs do crazier stuff at the deadline ( a la Erat/Forsberg) if they are in a playoff spot.

 

[Canadienna]

I could see a team like Montreal having interest in a big D like Stanley. Montreal does not have a lot of depth in terms of NHL defensemen. They also seem to be trying to add size on defense. Can’t go wrong with a 6’7 young guy with a little upside…

Montreal also does have depth at forward to move a forward…

I couldn't disagree more.

Montreal does not need another left defenseman.

A RD maybe.

 

[Huffer]

Makes sense although I don't know how much Heinola has fallen. If this was rookie Heinola I could see why the Jets wouldn't even pick up the phone.

All depends obviously on how big the need is for a top six RW but GMs do crazier stuff at the deadline ( a la Erat/Forsberg) if they are in a playoff spot.

You're assuming he's fallen at all in the eyes of the organization. (Maybe he has, no one on here will know).

The Jets could use a top 6 forward, but if they trade Heinola for one, it would be better for the Jets to get one in similar age and value. Better to trade for a McMichael or Pelletier for instance, or someone with a lot more term.

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[LouJersey]

They should call the Bruins. Could get Mike Reilly for a 4

 

[eojsmada]

No offense to Elliotte, because he's just reporting what's he heard. But Winnipeg's biggest deficiency is on their back end.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Perhaps something around Schwartz or Eberle for Dillon or Schmidt

Seattle has an abundance of forwards buy could really use another legit 2nd line D.

 

[biturbo19]

Defencemen, or defenceman? I feel like that matters...

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The Sharks are open for business but to acquire a defenseman, they'd likely need to move a defenseman themselves and I don't think they can move anyone during the season right now of cap consequence. If there's a forward other than Hertl that makes sense for the Jets to trade for then maybe something can be done and we just waive Megna or Harrington to make roster space for them.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Winnipeg is on pace for 100 pts...

Jets have 9 D, and the only one they would be willing to waive is Capobianco. Samberg will need waivers to go down starting in the summer, Heinola the summer after that.

At a certain point, AT LEAST one is being moved.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Why wouldn't DeMelo be available? He would be the first guy I'd want to unload. ZERO offense and mediocre defense.

Until recently, DeMelo was the only D that looked good paired with Morrissey. Now this year they've got Pionk working well with Morrissey, but keeping DeMelo is insurance if Pionk gets injured, I guess?