Olympics: Team Russia 2022

[Atas2000]

After the start of this season, no way Backstrom will play with Ovechkin when he returns

And how will Backy get his assist on the PP? Looooong slurp...

 

[Eye of Ra]

And how will Backy get his assist on the PP? Looooong slurp...

Axel Jonsson Fjällby.

Anyways, which KHLers have a chance to make the squad?

Shipachev is a look i assume. Maybe Gusev. Anismov as 4c perhaps. Voynov as 7-8 th d.

 

[StlBill]

They would be wise to have a line of Tarasenko-Barbashev-Buchnevich. When they’re on the ice together the chemistry is just ridiculous. Only reason it hasn’t stuck is Thomas and Tarasenko’s chemistry is just downright too even more ridiculous to break up.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Panarin - Malkin - Svechnikov
Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Kucherov
Barabanov - Shipachev - Kaprizov
Buchnevich - Barbashev - Tarasenko

 

[Atas2000]

Axel Jonsson Fjällby.

Anyways, which KHLers have a chance to make the squad?

Shipachev is a look i assume. Maybe Gusev. Anismov as 4c perhaps. Voynov as 7-8 th d.

In the probability order:

Shipachyov



Voynov, Gusev










some center... maybe... somehow

 

[MaxV]

They would be wise to have a line of Tarasenko-Barbashev-Buchnevich. When they’re on the ice together the chemistry is just ridiculous. Only reason it hasn’t stuck is Thomas and Tarasenko’s chemistry is just downright too even more ridiculous to break up.

Chemistry might be one of the pluses for this team. Several players are playing together on the same team/line right now and several others have also in the past.

 

[MaxV]

In the probability order:

Shipachyov



Voynov, Gusev










some center... maybe... somehow

I don't see the point of bringing Gusev. Not that I view him as unworthy, it's just his game is kind of redundant for this team. You are only maximizing his value if he is on PP1 and it's not like there is a lack of options.

 

[Atas2000]

I don't see the point of bringing Gusev. Not that I view him as unworthy, it's just his game is kind of redundant for this team. You are only maximizing his value if he is on PP1 and it's not like there is a lack of options.

I was talking real expectations and not my personal opinion on who should go. Yes, we have an abundance of wingers and I don't see a necessity to have a fair weather finesse specialist like Gusev there. But he is the last Olympics hero(one of them) and his rep with the FHR is probably still high. So we might see him on the list.

 

[Atas2000]

Chemistry might be one of the pluses for this team. Several players are playing together on the same team/line right now and several others have also in the past.

If Tarasenko is okay with playing on a defensive minded line, why not?

 

[Atas2000]

They would be wise to have a line of Tarasenko-Barbashev-Buchnevich. When they’re on the ice together the chemistry is just ridiculous. Only reason it hasn’t stuck is Thomas and Tarasenko’s chemistry is just downright too even more ridiculous to break up.

The only "problem" I have with that is that Barbashev and Buch will probably play a lot of PK on that roster and Tarasenko might be a 2PP player. It might be difficult to merge all the shifts.

 

[MaxV]

If Tarasenko is okay with playing on a defensive minded line, why not?

Someone will have to.

Having all of this firepower is great, but they won't all play the same roles nor minutes that they do with their clubs.

 

[Atas2000]

Someone will have to.

Having all of this firepower is great, but they won't all play the same roles nor minutes that they do with their clubs.

That they understand. The question is will Tarasenko be effective in that role.

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

Ovechkin-Kuznetsov-Nichushkin
Svechnikov-Malkin-Kucherov
Panarin-Schipachyev-Kaprizov
Namestnikov-Barbashev-Tarasenko
Radulov

Orlov-Zub
Provorov-Gavrikov
Sergachyev-Kulikov
Zaitsev

Vary
Bob
Varly

Could this team beat Canada?

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

Russia is due!
When was the last time they won a best on best tournament, 30 years ago ?
1981 Canada cup

 

[centipede2233]

I think Russia will surprise and at least make it to the gold medal game vs USA.

 

[IceHockeyDude]

Will Malkin play? I know that Kuz is banned and will be banned over the tournament.

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

I think Russia will surprise and at least make it to the gold medal game vs USA.

Yes, if the NHL decides to pull out of the Olympics. If so, It's all Russia's.

 

[centipede2233]

Yes, if the NHL decides to pull out of the Olympics. If so, It's all Russia's.

Is there news of this?

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

Is there news of this?

Due to recent outbreaks, it's being discussed, but players want to go.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Will Malkin play? I know that Kuz is banned and will be banned over the tournament.

Malkin will play, he is “on pace” per Penguins coach recent interview. The initial timeline was a December return.

 

[centipede2233]

Due to recent outbreaks, it's being discussed, but players want to go.

Yeah the players will be pissssssssssed if they don’t go…

 

[sdf]

Russia is due!
When was the last time they won a best on best tournament, 30 years ago ?
1981 Canada cup

In 72 it was even, in 76 soviets weren't interested in that tournier, 1979/81 - when they simply handled your pathetic asses, the team that lost in 84 could also destroy canada in 87 if it wasn't koharsky cup, they would eventualy humilate you in 90s and modern era, had ussr not collapsed

 

[Yakushev72]

In 72 it was even, in 76 soviets weren't interested in that tournier, 1979/81 - when they simply handled your pathetic asses, the team that lost in 84 could also destroy canada in 87 if it wasn't koharsky cup, they would eventualy humilate you in 90s and modern era, had ussr not collapsed

It has been rehashed before, but by no standard could the Canada Cup be considered to be a legitimate test of the best against the best. The reasons are:

(1) It was a privately owned tournament, as opposed to a regulated international tournament, exclusively owned by a Canadian citizen (Alan Eagleson, ex-convict) who personally controlled all decisions regarding referees, rules, and whatever else he chose to regulate.

(2) All games involving Canada were played in Canadian cities in front of Canadian fans (what if the Stanley Cup final was played in one city only?).

(3). Canada's major competitor, the USSR, only sent A teams to the 1981, '84 and '87 Canada Cups.

(4). After the Soviets beat Canada 6-3 in the round-robin of 1984, Eagleson fired Dag Olsson of Sweden, and declared that, in the future, only North Americans would be allowed to referee Medal Round games. That rule was adhered to through 1991 the last edition of the Canada Cup. Canada beat the Soviets 3-2 in the 12th minute of OT in 1984 Semi-Final round with an American, Mike Noeth, officiating the game.

(5). In the final round-robin game of 1987, with Noeth refereeing, Canada and the Soviets tied, 3-3. In the broadcast of the game, Canadian broadcaster Dan Kelly said of Noeth's refereeing, "I'm cheering for Canada, but this is ridiculous!" In the final best of 3 series for the Gold Medal, the Soviets won the first game 6-5 in OT, Canada won the second game 3-2 in double OT, and Canada won Game 3, 6-5 on Lemieux's disputed last-minute goal, disputed because the video clearly showed that Slava Bykov was literally hooked to the ice as he was ready to check Lemieux. The referee in the final series was Canadian Don Kaharski, which marked the first time in the history of all world sports that a citizen of one of the competing countries was allowed to referee a championship game.

The Canada Cup featured entertaining hockey, but at no time was it ever considered to be a legitimate best on best tournament.

 

[Mathieukferland]

It has been rehashed before, but by no standard could the Canada Cup be considered to be a legitimate test of the best against the best. The reasons are:

(1) It was a privately owned tournament, as opposed to a regulated international tournament, exclusively owned by a Canadian citizen (Alan Eagleson, ex-convict) who personally controlled all decisions regarding referees, rules, and whatever else he chose to regulate.

(2) All games involving Canada were played in Canadian cities in front of Canadian fans (what if the Stanley Cup final was played in one city only?).

(3). Canada's major competitor, the USSR, only sent A teams to the 1981, '84 and '87 Canada Cups.

(4). After the Soviets beat Canada 6-3 in the round-robin of 1984, Eagleson fired Dag Olsson of Sweden, and declared that, in the future, only North Americans would be allowed to referee Medal Round games. That rule was adhered to through 1991 the last edition of the Canada Cup. Canada beat the Soviets 3-2 in the 12th minute of OT in 1984 Semi-Final round with an American, Mike Noeth, officiating the game.

(5). In the final round-robin game of 1987, with Noeth refereeing, Canada and the Soviets tied, 3-3. In the broadcast of the game, Canadian broadcaster Dan Kelly said of Noeth's refereeing, "I'm cheering for Canada, but this is ridiculous!" In the final best of 3 series for the Gold Medal, the Soviets won the first game 6-5 in OT, Canada won the second game 3-2 in double OT, and Canada won Game 3, 6-5 on Lemieux's disputed last-minute goal, disputed because the video clearly showed that Slava Bykov was literally hooked to the ice as he was ready to check Lemieux. The referee in the final series was Canadian Don Kaharski, which marked the first time in the history of all world sports that a citizen of one of the competing countries was allowed to referee a championship game.

The Canada Cup featured entertaining hockey, but at no time was it ever considered to be a legitimate best on best tournament.

Ok, by your definition Russia/Soviet Union has never won a best on best tournament, his point being they are due to win one soon

 

[SoundAndFury]

Russia is due!

Yeah except that's not how the real world works.