Olympics: Team Finland 2022

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Here's a look at where we're standing with defense.

To make the long story short, we can't overlook a single d-man who 1. has NHL experience and 2. sees regular minutes in their club team lineups - whether it's in the NHL or Europe.

As such, four guys are 100% locks: Heiskanen, Lindell, Hakanpää and Määttä. The Dallas trio is self-explanatory. And while Määttä is a little more than a bottom pairing guy in the Kings, at least he appears to be one of their preferred bottom pairing guys. And he clearly became one of Jalonen's trusted guys in the last spring's WC. So yeah, he's gonna make it.

Then there's a fifth name who likely would be getting regular minutes if he hadn't been injured in the first game of the season and has been sidelined since then: Jokiharju. The Sabres have provided no timetable for his return. Sources say he's wearing a boot. But if he makes it back in time, he's another Jalonen familiar and doesn't need to do anything more than be healthy to get the invite.

Then there's one more name who's a constant in his club team lineup: Ristolainen. Now, if the main argument for excluding him is that Jalonen's miffed at him for the numerous WC invitation declinations, I'd say that it's nearly certain that our coach couldn't ignore him in this situation for such a petty reason. But, alas, an argument could also be made that RR wouldn't be seeing many steady minutes if he didn't make $5M a year. He hasn't been a total disaster for Philly, but not exactly worth his salary either.

The rest of the NHL d-men appear to be bubble options: either constant healthy scratches or floating in and out of the lineup every second to third game. Välimäki looked like he's going to stick, but he's been scratched now for about two weeks straight. And I'm not sure how high Nutivaara would feature in the Panthers if he wasn't on IR. He probably isn't top-4 for them, but would he be one of their preferred bottom options, like Määttä is for the Kings?

Anyway, the situation here is that we have five NHL names who are essentially locks if healthy when the selections are made. With at least two more being needed, we have to look towards Europe. Which means Lehtonen and Vatanen both look quite likely to make it, bringing the total of locks and likelies to seven.

Which leaves us the 8th guy. The first name to bring up is obviously Risto - but Jalonen has the fig leaf of replacing him if one of the bubble creatures starts seeing more constant minutes.

One name people have been throwing around is Ohtamaa, but then Jalonen would have to give way with his earlier comment about small ice experience being a requirement, as Ohtamaa has zero. But there's another euro-based name who's got at least some NHL experience, is the coach's familiar: Pokka. Not calling him a lock or even likely, but he could be higher up the list than his frequency of showing up in this thread might indicate.

To sum up: Heiskanen, Lindell, Hakanpää, Määttä, Jokiharju, Lehtonen and Vatanen are looking at better-than-average odds of making it if healthy. Then there's room for one more - but for whom, that's the question. My pick, despite everything, would be Ristolainen, but we'll see.


I can't take koskinen myself. No trust whatsoever in him. Too many soft goals but hey you re probably thinking what I'm thinking and we ll ride Saros the whole way bar maybe one group game. Saros loves workload anyway.
Reality disagrees with you regarding Koskinen - beggars can't be choosers, and right now the backup job is his to lose. I'd prefer the case not being so, too, but personally not liking the situation won't make a lick of difference.

That being said, the Olympics are a much shorter tournament than the WC - there's just three group stage games instead of seven. And given the schedule, it doesn't take a genius to work out the goalie workload. Finland plays Slovakia on Feb 10th, Latvia on Feb 11th, and Sweden on Feb 13th. So it's going to be the starter in net vs. Slovakia, the backup vs. Latvia, and from there the starter again 'til the bitter end.
 
I swear to god. This site on mobile can be killer. Wrote my longest response on goalies and it crashed.

Started writing a shortened version and it crashed.

I'm not going to go in any more detail.

Koskinen gives up soft goals regularly and this is not a good trait for close playoff games.

Korpisalo- doesn't like being backup. Could be devisive in dressing room but may have different attitude on national team.

Lankinen. My choice and possibly Jalonens too. Has favour of coach and goals against are on Chicago terrible defense. He will still get games despite being backup and Chicago defense improving under coach change. I think his own personal numbers will improve with the defence as he is playing solid.

Saros and Rask are a tier above all these choices. We already down Rask. As long as we have Saros starter is very clear and we ré all happy. One game will not harm anything. If Saros gets injured, then my choice is Lankinen.
 
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Well, well, well Finland boys upfront got the NHL-power today, oh shit, and that rather easy.
Probably the best o' the lot in NHL today.

So Canada watch out - Finland boys are here and that's for real.

We gave you a real, real hard time with our poor Liiga-squad last time in the Worldchampionships remember Canada. So watch out!
 
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Finland is pure metal Canada ... but you not so much.



And our, Finland, backbone of defenders will be in the evil vain of big bad evil and Finland Ristolainen/Koivisto and that big bad lot evil lot, me thinx. No jive.
 
Why oh' why do people even think that defenders like Jon Merrill (Minnesota Wild) Phillpe Myers (Nashville Predators) and Nathan Bealiue (Winnipeg Jets) do dig 'em before Finland boys, coz they're not like Finland boys. And I don't even hate Minnesota, Nashville and that Winnipeg ya'all.:thumbu:
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Sami Niku, Heinola are total offside with you Winnipeg Jets: Yiekes .


Finland gonna get you all in the Olympics, no worries, anyway.:nod:
 
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Why are you even afraid of Finland?:huh:

We - Finland are there - always in the finals and of the top of World of hockey no matter what, and we don't even need no Crosby, McDavid not even a MacKinnon on our side ... oi, boy are you former Scotland boys a lot other what?:thumbu:

We are Finland - who are you.
 
Watch out a Finland rock'n'rule trio a la' Peer Günt more than the almighty Rush in their three heyday. Watch out Canada - Finland boys are 'ere, brothers and sisters that goes for in Peking the Finland top-trio in the Olympics too. Pure Finland. Nothing else matters: We ain't no Sweden chickens - nor ever will we be Peking chickens. No fûckin way.
 
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Nice jerseys for sure but man is our hockey federation lame when it comes to hyping this sort of stuff. Compare this to when Huuhkajat revealed their jersey...
 
Why are you even afraid of Finland?:huh:

We - Finland are there - always in the finals and of the top of World of hockey no matter what, and we don't even need no Crosby, McDavid not even a MacKinnon on our side ... oi, boy are you former Scotland boys a lot other what?:thumbu:

We are Finland - who are you.

Prepare to disappoint.
Finland IS NOT gold medal favorite in these winter Olympics but Canada is.
We ( Finland ) do not have outside of Heiskanen any star level dman's.
So one Heiskanen is not enough to answer Canada's really good dman talent
when they ( Canada ) have Makar, Pietrangelo, Burns, Ekblad, Byram, etc.

PS some Finnish rock music band ( Peer Gunt )
hasn't nothing to do with the discussion of Finland's Olympic roster
so please post those music videos somewhere else or go find a music-forum
where you can hype Finnish metal and rock music.
Thank you.

Nice jerseys for sure but man is our hockey federation lame when it comes to hyping this sort of stuff. Compare this to when Huuhkajat revealed their jersey...


Please leave potkupallo ( Finnish football ) out of this discussion.
We are trying talk about hockey in here not a football.

Why oh' why do people even think that defenders like Jon Merrill (Minnesota Wild) Phillpe Myers (Nashville Predators) and Nathan Bealiue (Winnipeg Jets) do dig 'em before Finland boys, coz they're not like Finland boys. And I don't even hate Minnesota, Nashville and that Winnipeg ya'all.:thumbu:
Rush%2B'Starman'_emblem_(Rush_'2112'_album).png


Sami Niku, Heinola are total offside with you Winnipeg Jets: Yiekes .


Finland gonna get you all in the Olympics, no worries, anyway.:nod:

Heinola as full-time AHL dman do not have
any business to make Finland's roster in Beijing winter Olympics.

And even Niku is so and so what comes to making Olympic roster
but next years IIHF worlds Niku and Heinola might be in the team
 
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Nice jerseys for sure but man is our hockey federation lame when it comes to hyping this sort of stuff. Compare this to when Huuhkajat revealed their jersey...

Looks like Kime was just having a pint and they dragged him to take few pics :laugh:
 
Finland is pure metal Canada ... but you not so much.



And our, Finland, backbone of defenders will be in the evil vain of big bad evil and Finland Ristolainen/Koivisto and that big bad lot evil lot, me thinx. No jive.


Your passion in Finnish metal / rock music is great and undeniable.
But guess what 2022 winter Olympic games in Beijing IS NOT A ROCK / METAL MUSIC COMPETITION.
If everything goes perfect in Beijing Finland can win a Bronze but Gold goes to Canada or Russia.
 
Please leave potkupallo ( Finnish football ) out of this discussion.
We are trying talk about hockey in here not a football.
You can simply opt not to post if it bothers you. I think it is very relevant to our national team what their media section is doing, even if an insecure fan like you wants to avoid the actual issue.
 
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Nice jerseys for sure but man is our hockey federation lame when it comes to hyping this sort of stuff. Compare this to when Huuhkajat revealed their jersey...

Yeah Olympics are the biggest hockey tournament by far and it has been years since the last proper Olympic hockey yet no hype.
 
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A lot of Canadians and Americans don't seem to get it. I was reading an article in the Toronto Star about the NHL participating in the 2022 Olympics, and the writer came out with this:

"Canada will go in as the favourite, with the U.S., Sweden and Russia following in some order. It's possible the plucky Finns will knock off one of the big boys."

You would think that they might have figured it out by now.
 
A lot of Canadians and Americans don't seem to get it. I was reading an article in the Toronto Star about the NHL participating in the 2022 Olympics, and the writer came out with this:

"Canada will go in as the favourite, with the U.S., Sweden and Russia following in some order. It's possible the plucky Finns will knock off one of the big boys."

You would think that they might have figured it out by now.
Link?
 
A lot of Canadians and Americans don't seem to get it. I was reading an article in the Toronto Star about the NHL participating in the 2022 Olympics, and the writer came out with this:

"Canada will go in as the favourite, with the U.S., Sweden and Russia following in some order. It's possible the plucky Finns will knock off one of the big boys."

You would think that they might have figured it out by now.
I wouldn’t take anything Damian Cox says too seriously, he’s regarded as a clown
 
Nice jerseys for sure but man is our hockey federation lame when it comes to hyping this sort of stuff. Compare this to when Huuhkajat revealed their jersey...


Oi, Suomi on .. even good that Finland and the way they are at actually (real) football nowadays. Me like so much, much :thumbu:.
 
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Olkinuora has probably deserved a spot already. Probably as a third, who knows if he's even our second. Have to agree regarding Saros, has shown that he should get the trust as our first when the tournament starts. If Lankinen can't turn things around that is.
Koskinen seems to have sunk again. He was really bad yesterday.

Most probably heard that Rask is actually back on ice, without a contract though. Interesting to see if he makes a contract with Boston and gets few games. A lot of IFs but if he would play those games well, that could be the only threat for Saros #1 status or perhaps indeed Koskinen if he keeps up what he is doing.
 
Heiskanen - Lindell
Nutivaara - Ristolainen
Lehtonen - Niku
Hakanpää

Goalies:

Saros-Korpisalo-Koskinen

There is the 1st ever Olympic gold team for Finland.

Pretty good overall, but with the D-men I'd prob have Määttä and Hakanpää over Niku in hierarchy of top-6. I'd bulldoze them in the top-6 over Niku probably. The Nutivaara suggestion I sort of like but the guy hasn't played any games this season so I wonder how realistic that is. Is he injured now or just a healthy scratch I wonder?
 
I still have to SMH at anyone who thinks Granlund is not a lock for PP (let alone the team) after everything he's done, especially over the past year. Also, having Aho and Granlund in the same unit is quite redundant. Better spread that elite playmaking around. But I hear what you're saying about Heiskanen and Hintz. Especially since apart from the lack of elite shooting beyond Laine, these units are far from "primary" and "secondary" - they should be seeing roughly equal minutes and which one goes out first should be mainly determined on who have had the longest time since their last shift when the penalty was drawn.

Regarding the units I built, the obvious solution would be to swap Heiskanen with whoever's the blueliner (presumably Lehtonen) in the other one. This would give us:

#1: Granlund
#2: Lehtonen
#3: Rantanen
#4: Laine
#5: Barkov

And:

#:1 Aho
#2: Heiskanen
#3: Teräväinen
#4: Puljujärvi
#5: Hintz

Although, I have this strange suspicion that Jalonen's going to pick Vatanen into the team (even though I don't have him in my present personal projection) - and if he does, he likely does it because he likes what Vatanen can add to offense, which would mean he also makes it to one of the PP units. In that case, I'd probably have PP1 as I had it originally, to not have the blueliner's handedness clash with Laine.

PP2 would then become:

#:1 Aho
#2: Vatanen
#3: Teräväinen
#4: Hintz
#5: Puljujärvi

This unit wouldn't operate on exactly the same principle as the other, but the lack of Laine-level shooting could be overcome by the fact that Aho, TT and Hintz are lefties, so Vatanen could cycle the puck to whoever's open. And one could leave Pulju in the middle, where he can create the maximum havoc.


Määttä and Jokiharju (if he can make it back in time) are two names no one should ignore.

Don't get me wrong Granlund is a beast and very good hockey player on almost anything and I never denied that, but I think he was more valuable in the past for us, because we didn't have this many good play makers. Lundell is certainly making the case of putting Granlund to wing option easier if Lundell will be the #4 center, thus it's easier to put Granlund to a PP unit then as well. Also Granlund's last games have been impressive in terms of point production and he always gets the highest minutes of the forwards in Nashville easily.

On the "too much play making part having Aho & Granny together" part as you said. Now our best passer and play maker might actually be Rantanen, even though he is a winger. He is a crazy good passer, but at the same time he can score goals and he is a big body, so I guess he won't be the main play maker in his unit. We got like overload of play making. That is one reason why I didn't put my Donskoi/Granny suggestion to that unit, because Barkov and Rantanen are running the show and Heiskanen could be in that unit as well, but I'm still not sure about where I'd put Heiskanen and Hintz, but I do want to keep them together.

In terms of point production Donskoi has been bit disappointing in his recent games, but he keeps getting very good minutes by the coach. He is definitely a lock in the active roster, but will he get PP time in my proposed lineup remains to be seen, but for now I'll throw him out of the PP units, because Granlund has been the opposite of Donskoi in point production lately.

Again bolded are the parts I might swap between PP1 and PP2:

PP1 - Patrik Laine - Aleksander Barkov - Mikko Rantanen -
Granlund - Mikko Lehtonen


PP2 - Teuvo Teräväinen - Sebastian Aho - Jesse Puljujärvi -
Roope Hintz - Miro Heiskanen

So above in my opinion are the two best equally balanced PP units if we go for equal PP minutes for both units and not all eggs in one basket. Seems to be the same units as you. I finished reading your post after I wrote mine. I guess it's kind of clear. For some people it might be hard to swallow not having our #1D Heiskanen in #PP1.
 
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