Prospect Info: Team Board Mock Draft Pick #20

[GeorgeKaplan]

He’s a LD. We have so many.

York is probably better than all of the ones we have

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

York is probably better than all of the ones we have

Based on...?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Based on...?

My personal feeling of what his floor and ceiling project to be vs the other prospects in our system

 

[belair]

Agreed. Edmonton will steer clear of NCAA commits for this reason.

Think they go Broberg or Soderstrom.

Not sure you're quite up to date with their depth chart. With an already young defense corps at the NHL level and prospects like Bouchard, Samorukov, Jones and Bear currently emerging, the likelihood of them reaching for a defenseman at #8 is literally 0%.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

It was between York, Dorofeyev and Brink but went York

Think he will be very good

 

[I Eat Crow]

Not sure you're quite up to date with their depth chart. With an already young defense corps at the NHL level and prospects like Bouchard, Samorukov, Jones and Bear currently emerging, the likelihood of them reaching for a defenseman at #8 is literally 0%.

I'm not going to pretend I know more about Edmonton's prospect pool (I don't) than a supporter of the team. That being said, do any of those defensive prospects you listed have top pairing potential? Broberg and Soderstrom sure do if they hit their respective ceilings.

As mentioned, I don't see Edmonton taking an NCAA bound kid. Cozens or Dach (or Podkolzin if you're ok waiting for two years) should be your targets.

I wondered aloud in another thread if Edmonton would trade up to get Cozens or Dach. What do you think?

 

[belair]

I'm not going to pretend I know more about Edmonton's prospect pool (I don't) than a supporter of the team. That being said, do any of those defensive prospects you listed have top pairing potential? Broberg and Soderstrom sure do if they hit their respective ceilings.

As mentioned, I don't see Edmonton taking an NCAA bound kid. Cozens or Dach (or Podkolzin if you're ok waiting for two years) should be your targets.

I wondered aloud in another thread if Edmonton would trade up to get Cozens or Dach. What do you think?

Both Bouchard and Samorukov at this point possess top pairing potential. Samorukov likely the one closer to being NHL-ready. Klefbom, as it stands, is a young, reliable top pairing defender himself.

I don't see why the Oilers would shy away from selecting a US-college commit. Especially when anyone at that stage of the draft only plays a single year there before turning pro. Personally I wouldn't shy away from Podkolzin at #8, but I understand the reluctance from others.

In regards to moving up, I think it'd actually be more likely for them to trade back. I have an inkling that they're quite high on Philip Tomasino along with myself. I don't see that significant of a gap in terms of upside between him and the players likely available at the Oilers' draft position. Odds are that anyone taken at #8 isn't going to be fully NHL ready for two seasons anyways.

 

[Ola]

Where is Rees???

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Where is Rees???

you realize that 95% of lists have him as a 2nd/3rd rounder, right? I know you’re in love with him but most people don’t have him in this range.

 

[Ola]

you realize that 95% of lists have him as a 2nd/3rd rounder, right? I know you’re in love with him but most people don’t have him in this range.

This is why I am so surprise!!!

Seriously though, I think he is that low for -- all -- the wrong reasons....

 

[Ola]

Nobody had Dellandrea high either before McK released his ranking after the U18s. Rees will go up after his next ranking.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Both Bouchard and Samorukov at this point possess top pairing potential. Samorukov likely the one closer to being NHL-ready. Klefbom, as it stands, is a young, reliable top pairing defender himself.

I don't see why the Oilers would shy away from selecting a US-college commit. Especially when anyone at that stage of the draft only plays a single year there before turning pro. Personally I wouldn't shy away from Podkolzin at #8, but I understand the reluctance from others.

In regards to moving up, I think it'd actually be more likely for them to trade back. I have an inkling that they're quite high on Philip Tomasino along with myself. I don't see that significant of a gap in terms of upside between him and the players likely available at the Oilers' draft position. Odds are that anyone taken at #8 isn't going to be fully NHL ready for two seasons anyways.

All very fair points. Bouchard can go either way. Samorukov I don't know anything about honestly.

 

[Mac n Gs]

This is why I am so surprise!!!

Seriously though, I think he is that low for -- all -- the wrong reasons....

He really had a dogshit playoffs for Sarnia, but I agree with you that he should be higher. He's had a few weird injuries with the lacerated kidney, but he still produced a lot every time he was in the lineup this year for the Sting. He's a really aggressive puckhound, and almost gives me Hagelin vibes with how he's just relentless on the puck. He has some nifty hands too, and I remember seeing a play earlier in the year that highlighted how he can use that aggressiveness to counter on teams quickly.



I don't know where he'll end up going, but I don't think he should fall past our Dallas pick.

 

[belair]

All very fair points. Bouchard can go either way. Samorukov I don't know anything about honestly.

Leading the Guelph Storm blueline currently at the Memorial Cup. He and Nick Suzuki are playing out of their minds in the postseason.

 

[Ola]

Leading the Guelph Storm blueline currently at the Memorial Cup. He and Nick Suzuki are playing out of their minds in the postseason.

I think that speaks volumes of the quality of those games.

 

[belair]

I think that speaks volumes of the quality of those games.

Junior hockey at the highest level. Where do you think these prospects come from?

 

[Ola]

Junior hockey at the highest level. Where do you think these prospects come from?

Why would it be the highest level? It’s like way below the WJC and so forth. When Suzuki played at the U18s he couldn’t keep up, he wasn’t talented enough. We call out Podkolzin, he was more or less dominating every game but struggled to produce. He was heads and shoulders and waist above Suzuki there, and then some. And so was Nikolayev, Spiridonov, even Beecher, Karl Henriksson and so

These teams have drafts etc too, it’s not all-star teams. The talent in the CHL is spread out over what 60 clubs?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Why would it be the highest level? It’s like way below the WJC and so forth. When Suzuki played at the U18s he couldn’t keep up, he wasn’t talented enough. We call out Podkolzin, he was more or less dominating every game but struggled to produce. He was heads and shoulders and waist above Suzuki there, and then some.

These teams have drafts etc too, it’s not all-star teams. The talent in the CHL is spread out over what 60 clubs?

I think you might have your Suzuki’s mixed up

 

[Ola]

I think you might have your Suzuki’s mixed up

Bloody hell, how many Suzukis are there????

That would explain a thing or two.

Ryan Suzuki? OHL? Nicks brother?

NVM, srry, now I get the context... I thought I was responding to a post about Ryan.

 

[bl02]

Of course Seider will go 19th when we should be picking 19th because of the bullshit calls game 7's in round 1 and 2.
Give me York or Dorofeyev and how could we complain??? I know we are stacked at LHD but some people are saying York is a Ty Smith or better.

 

[LORDE]

I won’t vote here because of my lack of knowledge but I say BPA no matter who or where he plays but also swing for upside.

Although I do not believe we pick with 20

 

[RGY]

If Seider is there at 19 we should be trading up to get him.

 

[Gardner McKay]

There’s no way the Oilers draft an American college player.

If the Canadiens pass up on a talented French-Canadian player like Lavoie then anything is possible.

 

[True Blue]

Although I do not believe we pick with 20

Have that funny feeling as well

 

[bl02]

If Seider is there at 19 we should be trading up to get him.

If the Sens like him it’s gonna require overpayment probably same or more than what we gave them to move up for Miller