TDL wish list, who, what, how many?

[hotpaws]

What is your definition of quality?

There can be quality 4th. liners.

in this instance it means we need a couple of top 4 D and a 2nd line C to bump JT to the wing

 

[thewave]

Mini tank for me. Sell expiring assets for what we can (won't happen). Deep draft lets find a D-man etc.

 

[Sypher04]

Spending at this year's TDL to improve our chances would remind me of the 17/18 season. We were a young team with talent, but not enough talent to win. We should have sold off JVR, Bozak, Komarov etc for younger talent and/or draft picks (high picks) to better round out our roster with affordable pieces who could grow into the support players we've consistently been looking for in Free Agency and at the TDL. Like that team, this year's edition is not good enough to spend the assets to maybe get us into, what, the 2nd round? Not good enough. We're not getting the talent needed to spring us into legit contention with the assets we have. We do have the assets to acquire some younger, more affordable talent or picks which would open up the chance for better FA acquisitions than was made this year.

I agree with you if we are talking about rentals. But upgrading the team with players with term is another story altogether and should at minimum be thoroughly explored and done if the prices are reasonable.

Also the East is as open as it’s been in a long time. You can throw away a year if you want, I’m not nearly as interested in that idea.

 

[hotpaws]

if we take your logic, We should consider reinhart in the same Category of Matthews!!! Similar stats and whatever, the difference isnone of 2 make it makenit only once abd the second make it year after year....

Jt having a bad season, yes but doesn't mean hes done. Bad half of season can happen a guy pratically having carreer low vs the guy who having a carreer high season and consider them at the same page because 1 half of season... make no sense

only another 1 and 1/2 years until this board doesn't have to make excuses to defend Johnny

that is unless they re-sign the plug

 

[ULF_55]

Yes, we do have Minten and Cowan. But tell me, to be serious Cup contenders, would you agree that we need a top 2 and top 4 dman and a solid 3C who is also a good PKer? And if so, can we do that while paying Matthews, Nylander, and Marner? If so, then we must be looking at 2026 when JT’s contract comes off the books.

There is an option ... sell at the deadline.

I'm fine buying or selling, just not renting.

 

[notDatsyuk]

if we take your logic, We should consider reinhart in the same Category of Matthews!!! Similar stats and whatever, the difference isnone of 2 make it makenit only once abd the second make it year after year....

Jt having a bad season, yes but doesn't mean hes done. Bad half of season can happen a guy pratically having carreer low vs the guy who having a carreer high season and consider them at the same page because 1 half of season... make no sense

My logic is that watching him play, I can see how bad he now is.

There's a huge difference between having a bad season and being done.

 

[rumman]

Mini tank for me. Sell expiring assets for what we can (won't happen). Deep draft lets find a D-man etc.

It’s the smart move organization wise, but they’ll waste more of the future to try to push this version deeper in the playoffs. Goaltending will be the difference between whether it’s worth the risk or not imo…….

 

[Sypher04]

It’s the smart move organization wise, but they’ll waste more of the future to try to push this version deeper in the playoffs. Goaltending will be the difference between whether it’s worth the risk or not imo…….

Doesn’t have to be a waste if they acquire players with term.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

I really hope they aren't buyers this year. I don't care if the player is a rental or has term. This is not the year to do this, the prices are too high, and the Leafs have way too many holes to fill. We need a year where we take a step back and not get rid of futures. Dubas absolutely wrecked the Leafs prospect/pick pool.

If the Leafs trade their first this year or Cowan, Minten, Niemela, I'd be pretty upset. (I am pretty confident they will actually move their first this year, so I am prepared to be upset)

 

[Arzak]

if we take your logic, We should consider reinhart in the same Category of Matthews!!! Similar stats and whatever, the difference isnone of 2 make it makenit only once abd the second make it year after year....

Jt having a bad season, yes but doesn't mean hes done. Bad half of season can happen a guy pratically having carreer low vs the guy who having a carreer high season and consider them at the same page because 1 half of season... make no sense

Exactly.

Zacha is elite 2way and on PK, something we tend to appreciate in our players

Not to mention he was on an upward trajectory last year. This year he just continues.

Obviously nowhere near the career JT had, but he looks like a late bloomer (former 6th overall pick) after sucking with the rest of NJ. JT on the other hand is getting slower by a minute.


Comparing half-season is stupid. Then again look at the last year and tell me you are confident we'll get from JT more than Boston from Zacha the next two seasons. Not exactly a clear cut and that's not even considering PK or you know CAP hit

 

[Suntouchable13]

I really hope they aren't buyers this year. I don't care if the player is a rental or has term. This is not the year to do this, the prices are too high, and the Leafs have way too many holes to fill. We need a year where we take a step back and not get rid of futures. Dubas absolutely wrecked the Leafs prospect/pick pool.

If the Leafs trade their first this year or Cowan, Minten, Niemela, I'd be pretty upset. (I am pretty confident they will actually move their first this year, so I am prepared to be upset)

I agree. Let the core carry you. If they can make it far, great, if not a shakeup has to happen.

 

[Captain Crunch]

There is an option ... sell at the deadline.

I'm fine buying or selling, just not renting.

I agree, no more renting, but I just hope we don’t go all in this year. Too many holes to fill.

 

[thusk]

only another 1 and 1/2 years until this board doesn't have to make excuses to defend Johnny

that is unless they re-sign the plug

Exactly.

Zacha is elite 2way and on PK, something we tend to appreciate in our players

Not to mention he was on an upward trajectory last year. This year he just continues.

Obviously nowhere near the career JT had, but he looks like a late bloomer (former 6th overall pick) after sucking with the rest of NJ. JT on the other hand is getting slower by a minute.


Comparing half-season is stupid. Then again look at the last year and tell me you are confident we'll get from JT more than Boston from Zacha the next two seasons. Not exactly a clear cut and that's not even considering PK or you know CAP hit

the only reason people trash talk about jt is his salary... just take jt a 7M and nobody talking negatively against him

and yes Zacha bring better quality/price but its not the question here. At same salary, there nobody who will take Zacha over tavares. I know JT is overpay but that doesn't make him worst for that reason.

and i never say Zacha wasn't play good but there really someone here who really believe than Zacha would look as good in Toronto than what he look like in Boston?

 

[thusk]

My logic is that watching him play, I can see how bad he now is.

There's a huge difference between having a bad season and being done.

you was probably amount fan who wanted to trade rielly last season to let Sandin take his spot ? for the only because he had a pretty trash 1st half and wasn't look pretty good...

 

[hotpaws]

the only reason people trash talk about jt is his salary... just take jt a 7M and nobody talking negatively against him

and yes Zacha bring better quality/price but its not the question here. At same salary, there nobody who will take Zacha over tavares. I know JT is overpay but that doesn't make him worst for that reason.

and i never say Zacha wasn't play good but there really someone here who really believe than Zacha would look as good in Toronto than what he look like in Boston?

he's literally playing like crap and he'd still be grossly overpaid at 7m

basically all he can do is take draws and hang around the crease , he's a liability everywhere else on the ice but name recognition goes a long way with some fans

don't worry though , your burden of feeling you have to defend Johnny will hopefully be lifted in a season and a half

 

[Evilhomer]

I agree. Let the core carry you. If they can make it far, great, if not a shakeup has to happen.

There is no shakeup that can happen anymore, so they might as well keep adding to this group. It's their best chance to win.

 

[notDatsyuk]

you was probably amount fan who wanted to trade rielly last season to let Sandin take his spot ? for the only because he had a pretty trash 1st half and wasn't look pretty good...

What? That makes even less sense than your previous posts.

You're obviously grasping at bizarre and meaningless straws.

Time to give up.

 

[Arzak]

the only reason people trash talk about jt is his salary... just take jt a 7M and nobody talking negatively against him

and yes Zacha bring better quality/price but its not the question here. At same salary, there nobody who will take Zacha over tavares. I know JT is overpay but that doesn't make him worst for that reason.

and i never say Zacha wasn't play good but there really someone here who really believe than Zacha would look as good in Toronto than what he look like in Boston?

True story.

At the same time, I'm high on Zacha. He is great on PK and joking aside Selke potential. Plus I think this iteration is more of what Zacha is .

That being said I see him more as a winger, not C. He got mean pass - lot of speed. I can see him working well with Matthews. Not sure how he would do as 2 C here.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Sid has only 1 yr left to play.
I would trade Mitchy even up for him today. Now that is playoff leadership and knowledge.

 

[TheGreatOne11]

Is it though? He currently has 35 points in 47 games played, and is barely on pace for 20 goals. While playing the majority of the season with someone on pace for 115 points.

You know whats weird?

People call Tavares a point per game player, Mr.Consistant, but he's only achieved a PPG pace 5 out of his 15 seasons.

He's only achieved point per game twice during his Leafs tenure, as I highly doubt he makes it this year.

He's not a bad player, but I think the hype from his draft year and name recognition really have him higher in peoples minds than his actual playing ability. And I mean that because as for his playing ability, other than finesse in front of the net, he's a very mediocre to bad skater.

I just thought it was interesting so decided to post it here. Addition by subtraction will be Tavares off the books soon enough, or at least a much smaller deal playing out his last few years as 3C for 2-4 mill.

 

[thewave]

Sid has only 1 yr left to play.
I would trade Mitchy even up for him today. Now that is playoff leadership and knowledge.

Thats extreme. No picks?

 

[Arzak]

Sid has only 1 yr left to play.
I would trade Mitchy even up for him today. Now that is playoff leadership and knowledge.

Same.

This is actually not that bad. Dubas would get Marner reunion, plus no one would mourn homeboy departure if they were distracted by Sid.

MLSE would love the merch sales too. It would be bad PR to trade Marner for almost anyone, not Sid.

Thats extreme. No picks?

Yes to picks

 

[myleafs]

We were talking about now, not career.

By your logic replacing JT with Gretzky would improve the team.

I mean, Im not sure I would bet against that

 

[myleafs]

if we take your logic, We should consider reinhart in the same Category of Matthews!!! Similar stats and whatever, the difference isnone of 2 make it makenit only once abd the second make it year after year....

Jt having a bad season, yes but doesn't mean hes done. Bad half of season can happen a guy pratically having carreer low vs the guy who having a carreer high season and consider them at the same page because 1 half of season... make no sense

You may be right but we saw him slow down last year and we are seeing the same this year but with less production. Each player has their own best before date. Tavares isnt really old but many players fall off a cliff at his age.

We are seeing the same thing with Brodie and Gio though Gio is old.

 

[myleafs]

the only reason people trash talk about jt is his salary... just take jt a 7M and nobody talking negatively against him

and yes Zacha bring better quality/price but its not the question here. At same salary, there nobody who will take Zacha over tavares. I know JT is overpay but that doesn't make him worst for that reason.

and i never say Zacha wasn't play good but there really someone here who really believe than Zacha would look as good in Toronto than what he look like in Boston?

Cool, how do we do that?

There is no shakeup that can happen anymore, so they might as well keep adding to this group. It's their best chance to win.

Hate to say it but I fear you are right on this one.