Confirmed with Link: TDA trade dead, bought out by Flyers

[Svechhammer]

To be fair, I believe TonyD's father has outed himself as very much a bigot and claimed that it was just the way it was in his part of Philly. And given TonyD's checkered past, it's not a stretch to assume that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

But ultimately, it's about two things: His play on the ice and whether he'll be a distraction in the locker room. If we shelter him, his play on the ice should be serviceable. And whether he'll be a distraction is anyone's guess

The bolded part is the problem. Dont make assumptions, allow them to show who they are. I made that mistake when we originally signed him and he wasn't a problem here. And even that bullshit with the Twitter account reeks of obsessed stalker fan with an agenda. The only issue we had with Tony when he was here last is that he had to play top line mins because Bear couldn't handle it and he was the least terrible fit we had.

And it's funny, TDA gets all the shit for being a locker room cancer, but our players loved him and he wasn't the issue the last 2 years. He wasn't the one f***ing the Bally Sports host behind his own wife's back or refusing to wear the pride jerseys and going on record with why. But somehow he's the one that takes all the shit for it.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The bolded part is the problem. Dont make assumptions, allow them to show who they are. I made that mistake when we originally signed him and he wasn't a problem here. And even that bullshit with the Twitter account reeks of obsessed stalker fan with an agenda. The only issue we had with Tony when he was here last is that he had to play top line mins because Bear couldn't handle it and he was the least terrible fit we had.

And it's funny, TDA gets all the shit for being a locker room cancer, but our players loved him and he wasn't the issue the last 2 years. He wasn't the one f***ing the Bally Sports host behind his own wife's back or refusing to wear the pride jerseys and going on record with why. But somehow he's the one that takes all the shit for it.

All this.

He was a brash kid that didn't know how to keep his mouth shut. Same was true for a lot of us -- maybe most of us. The prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that controls decision making, doesn't fully mature until the mid-20s.

Having turned that corner, there's no assurance that he won't slip up again at some point, but there are also plenty of reasons to believe that he won't.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

3rd pair or is pesce gone?

If we lose Pesce I might kill someone.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If we lose Pesce I might kill someone.

SCREW THAT HYPOCRATIC OATH

 

[Navin R Slavin]

If we lose Pesce I might kill someone.

You might kill someone anyway, to be fair.

 

[Svechhammer]

You might kill someone anyway, to be fair.

I mean why else have all that vengeance as his identity

 

[Stickpucker]

SCREW THAT HYPOCRATIC OATH

More like psychopathic oath!

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[sheriff bart]

All this.

He was a brash kid that didn't know how to keep his mouth shut. Same was true for a lot of us -- maybe most of us. The prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that controls decision making, doesn't fully mature until the mid-20s.

Having turned that corner, there's no assurance that he won't slip up again at some point, but there are also plenty of reasons to believe that he won't.

This was pretty much my take on the issue when he was signed. Most of the "bad" stuff was when he was a teenager in junior hockey. I'd hate for my legacy to be from my actions as a 17yo.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This was pretty much my take on the issue when he was signed. Most of the "bad" stuff was when he was a teenager in junior hockey. I'd hate for my legacy to be from my actions as a 17yo.

Most, but not all. It's not like he was on his best behavior with the Rangers and they dropped him for no reason. It was still a risk, but all credit to the org for doing an extreme amount of due diligence and making expectations crystal clear.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

This was pretty much my take on the issue when he was signed. Most of the "bad" stuff was when he was a teenager in junior hockey. I'd hate for my legacy to be from my actions as a 17yo.

I mean, there was also the entire situation with the Rangers: Fighting other teammates, dividing the locker room, and blatantly ignoring the "last chance" warning from the GM.

And let's not forget his meltdown was a pretty major reason why our series against New York went so poorly a few years back.

But those all stem from the same problem that Navin pointed out: He's brash and doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. It's not something he's likely ever going to change, so we can only hope it doesn't bite us at inopportune times.

 

[Lempo]

SCREW THAT HYPOCRATIC OATH

It's for their own good.

 

[The Jerk Store]

What is the bolded stat?

Chatfield and especially TDA aren’t capable of pulling Pesce’s weight on the backend.

TDA was a superb fit for the first 4 months but when the schedule got tough, he stopped looking so good

TDA suffered a core injury at that time. He missed a bunch of games and wasn’t quite the same afterward. To attribute his decline in production to a tough schedule is a bit disingenuous.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I mean, there was also the entire situation with the Rangers: Fighting other teammates, dividing the locker room, and blatantly ignoring the "last chance" warning from the GM.

And let's not forget his meltdown was a pretty major reason why our series against New York went so poorly a few years back.

But those all stem from the same problem that Navin pointed out: He's brash and doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. It's not something he's likely ever going to change, so we can only hope it doesn't bite us at inopportune times.

I don't remember hearing about this? From all accounts from our former Rangers he was pretty well like overall...The fight it sounds like was more Georgiev than TDA. Obviously TDA isn't innocent in that but Georgiev sounded like he wasn't well liked overall. Sometimes individuals don't like each other, remember Malkin & Kessel, those 2 were unhinged around each other.

 

[Lempo]

I don't remember hearing about this? From all accounts from our former Rangers he was pretty well like overall...The fight it sounds like was more Georgiev than TDA. Obviously TDA isn't innocent in that but Georgiev sounded like he wasn't well liked overall. Sometimes individuals don't like each other, remember Malkin & Kessel, those 2 were unhinged around each other.

If it wasn't a joke, I believe I read that Tony told Georgiev to make a f***ing save.

 

[Derailed75]

I don't remember hearing about this? From all accounts from our former Rangers he was pretty well like overall...The fight it sounds like was more Georgiev than TDA. Obviously TDA isn't innocent in that but Georgiev sounded like he wasn't well liked overall. Sometimes individuals don't like each other, remember Malkin & Kessel, those 2 were unhinged around each other.

Same I remember most of the Rangers stood up for Tony's character after he was booted.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

If it wasn't a joke, I believe I read that Tony told Georgiev to make a f***ing save.

To my understanding, Tony had a history of blaming the goalie (whichever one was in net that night) whenever he was on the ice for a goal against. Well, after an OT loss, where TonyD had the turnover and Georgiev let in a long range shot for the goal, DeAngelo made the "Make a f***ing save" crack, and Georgiev swung at him.

This was weeks after the whole Twitter fiasco that came with its own set of distractions. After which the Rangers GM put him on probation and basically said "Keep your nose clean and your head low. Last chance."

Shortly after the fight, TonyD is on waivers.

 

[The Jerk Store]

I thought “make a f***ing save” was a Bill Peters line.

 

[zman77]

Flyers Hit Snag on Two Big Trades Involving Blues and Hurricanes

The Philadelphia Flyers were working on two big trades Saturday, but deals to move both Kevin Hayes and Tony DeAngelo hit a snag.

nhltradetalk.com

 

[cptjeff]

The bolded part is the problem. Dont make assumptions, allow them to show who they are. I made that mistake when we originally signed him and he wasn't a problem here. And even that bullshit with the Twitter account reeks of obsessed stalker fan with an agenda. The only issue we had with Tony when he was here last is that he had to play top line mins because Bear couldn't handle it and he was the least terrible fit we had.

And it's funny, TDA gets all the shit for being a locker room cancer, but our players loved him and he wasn't the issue the last 2 years. He wasn't the one f***ing the Bally Sports host behind his own wife's back or refusing to wear the pride jerseys and going on record with why. But somehow he's the one that takes all the shit for it.

It was way, way more than just assumption- some of that stuff in junior demonstrated pretty well that he had picked up a lot of his dad's opinions. But people change and grow, and there's also every indication that he's changed a lot since he was a shitty teenager.

If you want to call people out for being shitty, you also have to leave room for them to change after being called out. TDA, by all indications, has, which really shouldn't be a shock. He was a teenager.

What was an an assumption without any real grounding was the locker room cancer thing. Per all the former Rangers on our team, he was actually well liked by everyone in the room and that Georgiev was the one that divided the room.

 

[cptjeff]

I thought “make a f***ing save” was a Bill Peters line.

It was- and it went rather viral around the league. TDA was jokingly (but a pointed joke, to be sure) quoting him.

Fun little butterfly effect thing, ain't it?

 

[Lempo]

It was- and it went rather viral around the league. TDA was jokingly (but a pointed joke, to be sure) quoting him.

Fun little butterfly effect thing, ain't it?

Goalies ain't the only ones doing that style.

 

[WreckingCrew]

If you want to call people out for being shitty, you also have to leave room for them to change after being called out. TDA, by all indications, has, which really shouldn't be a shock. He was a teenager.

Unfortunately that's not how the internet/social media work. One slip up or stupid thing 10 years ago will label you forever. It's literally how the whole "cancel culture" thing got started (though now it's become a blanket for anyone who gets called out). How many times in recent years has someone been called out for wording something poorly, saying something ignorant, or having something they said years ago brought up? Doesn't even have to be controversial, just opposite of someone's moral high-ground opinion. An no matter what the response is, there's basically no "acceptable" means of recourse or reconciliation?

 

[Brock Anton]

Pretty sure the most controversial thing TDA has done since leaving the Rangers is spear Corey Perry in the balls, which is one of the most "worth it" suspensions of all-time.

 

[Lempo]

Pretty sure the most controversial thing TDA has done since leaving the Rangers is spear Corey Perry in the balls, which is one of the most "worth it" suspensions of all-time.

Yes but let's not forget he has some bad qualities too.