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Confirmed with Link: [TBL/TOR] Lightning sign and trade Darren Raddysh (8yrs, $8.5AAV) for a 2026 5th rd pick

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DFC said:
There's a big difference between skills competition and in-game. Most big shooters these days can top 100 mph. Not many can do it in game. And nobody hits 90-100 more than Raddysh, league-wide.
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How many guys are breaking glass regularly?
 
DFC said:
If you take the main goal scorer off the 16th best PP in the league, what is it?

If you're saying Foster shot the puck 90+ more than 2x the next closest guy, league-wide, well okay then.

By this analysis of 2010 Mike Green would score 160 points in today's game.
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2010 Mike Green would probably have scored 10-15 more points in today's game, yes. If you can't understand that you have to prorate different eras rather than just put numbers side by side without context, then I can't help you.

And Kurtis Foster wouldn't have gotten the opportunity to shoot the puck that much because they were so terrified of giving him open looks they were leaving a future HOF'er open.
 
OGPete said:
2010 Mike Green would probably have scored 10-15 more points in today's game, yes. If you can't understand that you have to prorate different eras rather than just put numbers side by side without context, then I can't help you.

And Kurtis Foster wouldn't have gotten the opportunity to shoot the puck that much because they were so terrified of giving him open looks they were leaving a future HOF'er open.
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Right. He scored 42 career goals because the league was so terrified they didn't let him shoot.
 
DFC said:
Are you talking about the 1-0 goal? You keep saying this and I'm not even sure Raddysh touched the puck behind the net. It was one of those nothing shots that pinballed its way into the net.
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You obviously didnt watch the game, he had the puck and drop passed it behind his net to the Montreal player. The whole sequence happens because of him.
 
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You obviously didnt watch the game, he had the puck and drop passed it behind his net to the Montreal player. The whole sequence happens because of him.
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So before the scrum on the boards? Your holding that against him?
 
DFC said:
Glass doesn't
So before the scrum on the boards? Your holding that against him?
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He had possession with no one close to him, drop passes it to a Montreal player cause he thiught Moser was there, the ensuing sequence leads to the series winning goal. How tf are you not? Rose colored glasses? Thats a no no play in peewee let alone game 7 in an NHL playoff game.
 
Sky04 said:
He had possession with no one close to him, drop passes it to a Montreal player cause he thiught Moser was there, the ensuing sequence leads to the series winning goal. How tf are you not? Rose colored glasses? Thats a no no play in peewee let alone game 7 in an NHL playoff game.
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Because that kind of mistake happens every game, multiple times. And we had to lose a board battle directly afterward, and then the shot that wound up scoring wasn't even dangerous.
 
DFC said:
There's a big difference between skills competition and in-game. Most big shooters these days can top 100 mph. Not many can do it in game. And nobody hits 90-100 more than Raddysh, league-wide.
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Like I said man. You kinda had to be there



10:30 - perfect one time feed

12:35 - probably a low 90 mph shot just before the goal

13:45 - Stamkos literally has his own zip code to himself

14:21 - Another Foster missile just before Stamkos scores

15:21 - Another perfect feed to 91 after the defender plays Foster's shooting lane up high

16:03 - Nothing special the Islanders suck

18:51 - Good assist there

20:20 - "That big bomb from the point" and also Stamkos having his own zip code again

23:37 - Plekanec is so goddamn lost in space its funny

24:13 - Nothing special Foster or Stamkos are doing here. Just good execution

26:14 - Just another good feed here

26:48 - The whole PK collapsed to Foster and Stamkos had the whole universe to himself

29:36 - Not that special but its an assist


In all, Pete is telling the truth. The way he is explaining it is very difficult to believe unless you saw it yourself. No one is saying 2009-2010 Foster > Last year's Raddysh. More like "I remember this one time we had a guy who shot so f***ing hard the opposing team sometimes left Stamkos open"

You have to take the context the same way as Darth Vader murdering and betraying Luke's father.


You gotta realize this only lasted a couple months and no one tracked how hard you shot
 
Doctor Congo said:
Like I said man. You kinda had to be there



10:30 - perfect one time feed

12:35 - probably a low 90 mph shot just before the goal

13:45 - Stamkos literally has his own zip code to himself

14:21 - Another Foster missile just before Stamkos scores

15:21 - Another perfect feed to 91 after the defender plays Foster's shooting lane up high

16:03 - Nothing special the Islanders suck

18:51 - Good assist there

20:20 - "That big bomb from the point" and also Stamkos having his own zip code again

23:37 - Plekanec is so goddamn lost in space its funny

24:13 - Nothing special Foster or Stamkos are doing here. Just good execution

26:14 - Just another good feed here

26:48 - The whole PK collapsed to Foster and Stamkos had the whole universe to himself

29:36 - Not that special but its an assist


In all, Pete is telling the truth. The way he is explaining it is very difficult to believe unless you saw it yourself. No one is saying 2009-2010 Foster > Last year's Raddysh. More like "I remember this one time we had a guy who shot so f***ing hard the opposing team sometimes left Stamkos open"

You have to take the context the same way as Darth Vader murdering and betraying Luke's father.


You gotta realize this only lasted a couple months and no one tracked how hard you shot
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I was here in 2010. You're mythologizing him. He scored 10 goals and you're pretending he would have been Alex Ovechkin if given half a chance. No doubt he had a big shot and no doubt he was a great contributor that helped Stamkos get to big numbers. He didn't score a point per game or the 2010 equivalent over 60 games, nor shoot the puck on net 90+ mph 100 times in a single season.
 
DFC said:
I was here in 2010. You're mythologizing him. He scored 10 goals and you're pretending he would have been Alex Ovechkin if given half a chance. No doubt he had a big shot and no doubt he was a great contributor that helped Stamkos get to big numbers. He didn't score a point per game or the 2010 equivalent over 60 games, nor shoot the puck on net 90+ mph 100 times in a single season.
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Dude I'm not pretending anything. I'm agreeing with Pete that he had a cannon and it helped shade traffic away from Stamkos at time and it does nothing to diminish Raddysh's accomplishments. In no way was Foster better. Raddysh just has the hardest non Stamkos shot to deal with since Foster. I literally agree with you about Raddysh
 
Doctor Congo said:
Dude I'm not pretending anything. I'm agreeing with Pete that he had a cannon and it helped shade traffic away from Stamkos at time and it does nothing to diminish Raddysh's accomplishments. In no way was Foster better. Raddysh just has the hardest non Stamkos shot to deal with since Foster. I literally agree with you about Raddysh
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I'm not trying to diminish Foster. Just saying what we saw with Raddysh is pretty rare. Not so much the ability to shoot hard, but the ability to do it over and over.
 
DFC said:
I'm not trying to diminish Foster. Just saying what we saw with Raddysh is pretty rare. Not so much the ability to shoot hard, but the ability to do it over and over.
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Well yeah. It's gonna be.... (I can't even guess) how long until we see a guy in a Lightning uniform do what Raddysh did. I'm just talking about shooting hard. It's putting it on target and said shot actually being dangerous that made Raddysh so special. Apples to oranges with Foster who could just shoot hard
 
I think it will be interesting to see his numbers there. I don't expect him to be a 70 point player that's for sure. He shot 10 percent for a defenseman. I feel like we relied on a lot as we don't have a ton of shooters. To lose that will hurt. We will have to rework our power play which was kind of built around kucherov and that one timer from raddysh. However that might not be a bad thing if we are able to find a couple of other players to help there. Losing raddysh hurts but I think we can make the cap work in better favor for us than giving him 7 or 8 mil.
 
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Next year on this board should be fun, when everyone will cherry pick the best or worst of Raddysh in Toronto to prove how right they were.
 
It would have been a hundred times better not to have a fifth-round pick, but instead force Toronto (a division rival, btw) ) to sign him to a seven-year, 9.7 AAV. JBB continues to ACTIVELY hurt the team. He's the worst GM in the league at that point.
 
Soul Assumption said:
It would have been a hundred times better not to have a fifth-round pick, but instead force Toronto (a division rival, btw) ) to sign him to a seven-year, 9.7 AAV. JBB continues to ACTIVELY hurt the team. He's the worst GM in the league at that point.
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Having a 5th is still better than losing Raddysh for nothing. I'm going to temporarily withhold judgment on JBB and see what he does first. If his only move is to write Tuch a blank check while doing nothing about our center depth I'm gonna be f***ing livid.

One of Cirelli and Point need to go
 
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Soul Assumption said:
The fifth round is nothing. 70% of the time, a fifth-round pick won't even play a single game in the league. In no universe is that pick worth helping a division rival save money on a contract.
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It's still better than nothing. You gotta remember I'm about "this close" to the fire JBB wagon. And even *I* have to say it's still better than nothing
 
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