Confirmed Signing with Link: [TBL] Alex Killorn (7 years $4.45M AAV)

[TheOllieC]

Killorn is a good player. I like him a lot.

With that term though, I doubt he'll be in Tampa for all of this deal.

 

[sully1410]

I thought Tampa was in Cap trouble?

 

[Kshahdoo]

And Chicago fans didn't like Anisimov signing...

 

[These Are The Days]

4.5 x 7 for a 14 goal winger?

It's his playoff performance that got him paid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB03LBpRleU - series winner vs Detroit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJOnE5SETx4 Super Saiyan goal vs NYR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2snH-tCrwQ game 7 winner vs NYR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQLwc2LteQ series opening goal vs Hawks

Couldn't find and post

game 1 goal vs Pittsburgh
game 5 goal vs Pittsburgh

Both came in CRITICAL situations

Didn't have time to embed them all. Have to leave the house ASAP

 

[ottawa]

What?

Killorn is ten times the player Shaw is

Okay, I'll bite. Lightning fans, how is Shaw 10x worse?

 

[Zrhutch]

Another domino falls in the Bishop to Dallas saga. Come to papa

 

[Geoff72]

This contract tells me that someone is moving this summer and the parameters have already been set. I'm guessing Fillpula or Bishop trade is only a matter of time now.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Seems a little steep. But if he continues to develop that could be a great deal at the end of it.

 

[The Madrigal]

Killorn is a better player.

Not everyone agrees with that and they are certainly comparable players.

 

[nikyc]

Price is nice, term is a bit worrisome but it was likely required to get him at that price.

Gives them $8.55M to re-sign Kucherov, Namestnikov and Nesterov...

Bishop will be gone. In fact Tampa might have agreed in principal with Dallas on a contract already and is just try to wrap a few other up in a certain order before signing Kucherov.

 

[ottawa]

If you think so. 6"2, 200+ vs. 5 nothing with heart sorry you loose if you think a few hundred can make that much difference whether a contract is good or not you're out to lunch. Plus Killorn has broken the 40 point plateau twice in three years.

While you're on a roll, resign Diamond Dave for another 5 years, plus Rene "Bag of Pucks" Bourque for another 3 x 3.5+(he has sooooooo much potential).

You took his comment way too personally

 

[serp]

Term seems questionable . Would only give absolute core players that kind of term.

 

[PhoenyX]

A lot of term for a role player...

 

[The Macho King]

Not that I don't like Killorn as a player, but while the AAV is fair value for someone like him, that term is going to be a "killer" in a few years.

That contract has the potential to turn out the way that Bickell's contract turned out. Similar comparison in that they are both half-point per game types, playoff performers, big body types that can move up and down the lineup. Killorn is a better player than Bickell is but they aren't especially dissimilar enough to negate the comparison.

Maybe Tampa is rewarding him for his playoff performances, but I don't believe players can be consistently big game performers when they are players of his ilk and talent level.

Killer isn't exactly a "bruiser" stand in front of the net type, though.

He's a great defensive winger - I'm going to bet that played a role in the choice for term. I don't see him regressing any time soon.

 

[Everblades13]

I don't mind it. Term is probably a bit too much, but it isn't that big of a deal.

 

[Kolzilla]

Andrew Shaw contract looks ****ing great now

I'm gonna go out on a limb and take that as sarcasm.

 

[Mad Brills*]

So long term, this means one of johnson/palat are going right?

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Killorn is absolutely worth that contract. Big body, plays a solid two-way game with a lot of grit in front of the net and scores timely goals.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Andrew Shaw contract looks ****ing great now

Because a better player got more money?

 

[boredmale]

This contract tells me that someone is moving this summer and the parameters have already been set. I'm guessing Fillpula or Bishop trade is only a matter of time now.

I was going to say it would be hard to sign Kucherov and stay under the cap max with this signing unless they make a trade

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Also

People would do well to realize the term allows the cap hit to be lower

On a 5 year term the hit likely goes up and that is actually worse for TB

 

[The Madrigal]

Killorn basically got the same deal As Reilly Smith, that's the comparable. Yes Smith got about half a million more in average annual value but Killorn also got two additional years so that pretty much evens out. Smith is a more productive version of Killorn. We are talking about the difference between a 15 goal/40 point winger and a 20-25 goal/45-50 point winger. Both are very good and reliable two-way wingers. I thought Smith overpaid, not so much now with this deal, but still.

I think the point some people are missing with this deal is this: You don't have give out a 7 year term to a supporting player (even a really good one) and if you are the average annual value should be a bargain in return and nearly 4.5 million for Killorn is not a bargain in that regard. Yzerman has done a fantastic job building something in Tampa Bay but he isn't perfect (See the Matt Carle contract, Braydon Coburn trade, etc) and this is an example of him making a mistake. As per usual though he will likely get a free pass.

 

[Torso9000]

Johnson, Palat, and Drouin all need new contracts after this season so it will be interesting to see if they're able to (or want to) retain all of them now.

 

[Mad Brills*]

bye bye bishop/filppula

 

[Bobby Digital]

Killorn always steps his game up in the playoffs. Solid deal.