Confirmed with Link: Tavares to Toronto (7 years, $11M AAV)

[Jmo89]

The Isles thread on JT has descended into chaos. Accusations of racism, mental illness/deficiency, character assassination on and on and on.

Go take a peek at the offersheet thread on the trade board. Apparently JT is now a marked man as he's not only screwed over the Isles, but other UFAs and Tampa / SJ.

The dramatics on HF are at an all time high.

 

[Faltorvo]

Go take a peek at the offersheet thread on the trade board. Apparently JT is now a marked man as he's not only screwed over the Isles, but other UFAs and Tampa / SJ.

The dramatics on HF are at an all time high.

ohhh noes hf is mad at the leafs ??? and we care why?

i'm coming hoooooommmmeeeeee, i'm commen hooooommmmeeeeee!!!

 

[Budsfan]

With the front loaded contract Tavares got from the Leafs, he can re-invest that money and probably end up with similar money that he would have received from the Islanders.

 

[Gabriel426]

I desperately hope that isn't the case.

In a way a lot of fans do bc no matter how much we think we know about the Salary cap and its rules, those in MGT knows more than us. At least they should bc that's their jobs.

 

[Trapper]

i don't give a damn sht about isle fans and i'm not even close to sorry about that

in my lifetime as a leafs fan 44 years they won 4 cups in a row

i have not even seen my team play 1 single gd game IN the finals.

so no, i could not care any less

People love to hate us as Leaf fans and will always hate us.
That’s fine.
I’d just rather be winning Cups while hated.
Maybe hated even more. Sounds fun.
You know how the narrative goes.
Sign Tavares and they will all say good luck signing your other guys.
Win the Cup and it will be, yeah cause you bought it.
101 excuses lined up for 100 possibilities.
No problem.

 

[New User Name]

the last offer from the Islanders was 11.25
i don't know when that was offered.

Yes, I realize that but the Islanders had exclusive negotiating rights since July 1, 2017 to extend JT.

LA just extended Doughty to a new contract starting 2019-20 and the Sens have offered Karlsson a new contract starting 2019-20 too.

The Islanders had an entire year to lock JT up. I guess it's possible Tavares wasn't interested in extending but I didn't hear that.

If I was a GM, I'd be wondering why a player would take the risk of playing out his contract. I'd be thinking he wants to test free agency.

If the Islanders didn't request to start negotiations last year, this is all on them.

 

[Faltorvo]

People love to hate us as Leaf fans and will always hate us.
That’s fine.
I’d just rather be winning Cups while hated.
Maybe hated even more. Sounds fun.
You know how the narrative goes.
Sign Tavares and they will all say good luck signing your other guys.
Win the Cup and it will be, yeah cause you bought it.
101 excuses lined up for 100 possibilities.
No problem.

again traps, i don't care what others say or think

sure the more salty the better but it's not like i care

 

[7even]

effen common seriously??????

they have folks and projection analysis that DWARFS and i mean not even the same planet as the "the best" that post about cap on this entire full board.

lets get bloody serious here, they are paying deep deep 6 figures

figuring it ALL OUT

That's exactly what I'm saying lol. If they have an entire department focused on the cap, they are definitely "worrying" about it.

Same team bro.

 

[glue]

Now that the excitement has absorbed it will be interesting to see how Tavares ages over his 7 years and how the value of that contract goes over that time. It's amazing that the Leafs have him locked up for a bulk of his prime but only a few of his potential declining years.

Without a doubt, and with the supporting cast around him, he should produce at an elite level for a of those few years (PPG +) ... He's had 3 of these seasons already, but not consecutively. Probably 2-3 70-point seasons are also likely.

Years 5-7 are where we may see a dip. Hopefully still in the 65 point range.

Provided he's in good health his skating should hold up for a similar time period. Obviously the risk if he does lose a step or two in the latter parts of the contract, he will be less effective.

But this is the nature of the beast when it comes to UFA and it's well-worth it in this case to bring in a player of his calibre. The remainder of the risk is within the cap management - the Leafs have less wiggle room for bad contracts now going forward.

I hear you but another thing to keep in mind is we could always move him to wing at that point if he starts to decline. Claude Girouxx is a perfect example of someone moved to the wing in the later part of their career and thriving

 

[mix1home]

We have 2 elite number 1 Cs, boys and girls.

Not to mention, another terrific 30 goal center as our 3rd line C.

We are stacked. Unreal.

Yeah. 1c are never traded, never hit free agency and always resign with their current teams with long term contracts. Or so I was told by Nonis.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

Listen, no doubt that $8.5 million is better; that is a heck of a home-town discount, but given the teams persuing Tavares were willing to pay $13 million (in US states that had lower taxes then Ontario), the Leafs did pretty well. $11million is in line with what pundits projected Tavares’ market value as, and given Bozak+ JVR + Komorov went a combined $15 million (which is mind-boggling), the choice here was pretty much: resign out own guys or get Tavares and fill two winger roles with ELCs like Johnsson, Altonen or Bracco from the Marlies (and still have about a million or so left over). For me the choice seems obvious.

Tampa Bay will always get a home town discount in a sense for ALL their players - players willing to sign for substantially less given no income tax - take a look at cap friendly.com all their salaries have been bargains for years.

 

[Incognito]

Isles fans even going after JT's uncle's Wiki page.

 

[Kelly]

Would be utterly classless of Islander fans to boo Tavares when he returns, I get that they're mad but JT gave them 9 years, and the Islanders organization failed to surround him with a good team. It will be a very emotional game for JT, and would just be an absolutely gutless thing to do.

But, Islander fans certainly aren't known for their class and respect.

Remember when they boo'ed the Canadian anthem, a year after 911 and shortly after Canada had committed going over seas to fight the f***ers that did it, with and FOR America?

www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/sports/o-canada-gets-no-respect-as-isles-fans-boo-anthem/article4134052/

Hopefully common sense prevails, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[ObscureAlien]

Decided to look up how Tavares has done against other teams in our division since his career began. Here is what I found:

Vs Tampa*
34 gp: 12 g + 22 a = 34 P

Vs Boston
30 gp: 13 g + 12 a = 25 P

vs Florida*
34 gp: 18 g + 13 a = 31 P

vs Detroit
18 gp: 7 g + 17 a = 24 P

Vs Buffalo
26 gp: 15 g + 14 a = 29 P

vs Ottawa
27 gp: 5 g + 9 a = 14 P

vs Montreal
29 gp: 12 g + 13 a = 25 P

Vs Atlantic Division
198 GP: 82 G + 100 A = 182 P (0.92 PPG)

Teams in the division Tavares scores the most points per game against ranked:

1. Detroit (1.33)
2. Buffalo (1.12)
3. Tampa (1.00)
4. Florida (0.91)
5. Montreal (0.86)
6. Boston (0.83)
7. Ottawa (0.52)

In case anyone is curious, Tavares scored 13 goals and 14 assists in 29 games played against the Leafs (0.93 PPG).

*I did include the playoff series’ against Florida and Tampa in 2016.

 

[brandonlowi]

Would be utterly classless of Islander fans to boo Tavares when he returns, I get that they're mad but JT gave them 9 years, and the Islanders organization failed to surround him with a good team. It will be a very emotional game for JT, and would just be an absolutely gutless thing to do.

But, Islander fans certainly aren't known for their class and respect.

Remember when they boo'ed the Canadian anthem, a year after 911 and shortly after Canada had committed going over seas to fight the ****ers that did it, with and FOR America?

www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/sports/o-canada-gets-no-respect-as-isles-fans-boo-anthem/article4134052/

Hopefully common sense prevails, but I won't hold my breath.

I remember many Leafs fans hating on Sundin for almost the same thing. In the end, they gave him a standing ovation on his return. I think Islanders fans will calm down and give him some respect on his rerun. But, then again it is New York lol.

 

[Schennanigans]

It reminds me of when vince left the raps. Alot of the sting is still left and will never leave raps fans. Same will be true for isle fans. I still cant believe we have both AM and JT. Probably wont sink in until the season starts.

 

[colchar]

If they have an entire department focused on the cap, they are definitely "worrying" about it.

No, they are not "worrying" about it, they are simply doing what any well managed organization would do and are planning their operating budget (or, in this case, one department of the organization's operating budget).

 

[supermann_98]

How does Tavares's $11 mm cap hit compare to Stamkos's $8.5 mm hit? While Stamkos signed the contract 2 years ago, what is the justification of the $2.5 mm discrepancy between the two, given that they're about the same tier of player.

Between the Stamkos signing and the JT signing, the idiot Oilers decided to break the salary scale because they're in Edmonton where nobody wants to be

 

[leburn98]

After reading the other threads, I see the loonies are out in full force. This forum will be legendary if the Leafs win a Cup.

 

[supermann_98]

With the front loaded contract Tavares got from the Leafs, he can re-invest that money and probably end up with similar money that he would have received from the Islanders.

With the right financial advisor a LOT more. $15m up front in the first year? That's almost 3 times his previous salary, all paid out up front and already collecting interest in the bank

 

[supermann_98]

After reading the other threads, I see the loonies are out in full force. This forum will be legendary if the Leafs win a Cup.

I only browse the Habs thread, it's a sickness of mine to enjoy their suffering while theyre hating how well our organization is run

 

[Mikeyg]

Nice to see our evolution. Before, jt would have been out of our league, and we 100% would have overpaid for a guy like neal. Now the superstars are taking cuts to come here, ole mikeyg is proud! Go Leafs Go!

 

[FlareKnight]

At least that first road game against the Islanders isn't until a large part of the season has gone by. Plenty of time for Tavares to be settled in and maybe a chance for heads to cool a bit. Although I'd still expect a good amount of boos. People can hold a grudge.

In the end no complaints here. Mostly just hyped to see how the year will unfold for the Leafs. Going to be crazy fun to watch them just casually rolling out Matthews, then Tavares, then Kadri, and occasionally the fourth line as appropriate.

 

[Superstar]

Between the Stamkos signing and the JT signing, the idiot Oilers decided to break the salary scale because they're in Edmonton where nobody wants to be

Yep, $12.5 mil and $8.5 mil for RFA's in McDavid and Draisaitl is simply stupid...that's UFA money.

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

Decided to look up how Tavares has done against other teams in our division since his career began. Here is what I found:

Vs Tampa*
34 gp: 12 g + 22 a = 34 P

Vs Boston
30 gp: 13 g + 12 a = 25 P

vs Florida*
34 gp: 18 g + 13 a = 31 P

vs Detroit
18 gp: 7 g + 17 a = 24 P

Vs Buffalo
26 gp: 15 g + 14 a = 29 P

vs Ottawa
27 gp: 5 g + 9 a = 14 P

vs Montreal
29 gp: 12 g + 13 a = 25 P

Vs Atlantic Division
198 GP: 82 G + 100 A = 182 P (0.92 PPG)

Teams in the division Tavares scores the most points per game against ranked:

1. Detroit (1.33)
2. Buffalo (1.12)
3. Tampa (1.00)
4. Florida (0.91)
5. Montreal (0.86)
6. Boston (0.83)
7. Ottawa (0.52)

In case anyone is curious, Tavares scored 13 goals and 14 assists in 29 games played against the Leafs (0.93 PPG).

*I did include the playoff series’ against Florida and Tampa in 2016.

No problem we have Matthews who torches Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit and Boston. We need Tavares to torch Tampa, Florida and Buffalo and looks like he is doing just that.