Proposal: Tavares to MTL

SLAPSHOT723

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On paper it's a good deal, but the Isles reject if only for one reason: they trade Tavares, and you can kiss that franchise goodbye, out of New York. With all the issue they're having retaining players, arena snafus, possibly playing in a parking lot in the near future, you can't just turn around and trade the face of your franchise. Would send a horrible message to the team, and especially to the fans who have been super patient putting up with massive amounts of BS.

"Hey everyone, on top of losing Okposo and Nielson, having the worst ice in the league, moving the Isles off Long Island proper, and exploring how we might play in the damn parking lot at Citifield...we ALSO just traded John Tavares for Galchenyuk and futures. DON'T WAIT TO GET YOUR SEASON TICKETS, FANS!"

Hell no. They'd never sell another ticket, and rightfully so.

This is dead-on accurate. No matter how good of a "hockey trade" a Tavares deal could potentially be, nothing positive would come out of him leaving. Islanders haven't just fallen in love with Tavares the player, but Tavares the captain and Tavares the person as well.

Funny enough, that's exactly how they would market renew season tickets if this scenario happened.

John Tavares is staying an Islander, Nuff said.

Yes he is. Tavares will stay with this franchise through thick and thin. Not only has he said it himself, but he's not the type of guy that would jump ship.
 

xxreact9

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And the Isles do this because?

Caus they get a ton in return for only 2 years of Tavares, who has to be disgruntled wasting his entire career on a team that can't win the cup because they rebuilt WAY too fast and failed to surround JT with enough talent on either side of the puck. Yes, I'm talking signing Boychuk and Leddy and additionally letting all your good wingers walk. It ruined the direction of the franchise, they will never win a cup with this team and Tavares would be wise to leave for a different team.

As such, the return by the OP is pretty excellent.
 

xxreact9

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This is dead-on accurate. No matter how good of a "hockey trade" a Tavares deal could potentially be, nothing positive would come out of him leaving. Islanders haven't just fallen in love with Tavares the player, but Tavares the captain and Tavares the person as well.

Funny enough, that's exactly how they would market renew season tickets if this scenario happened.



Yes he is. Tavares will stay with this franchise through thick and thin. Not only has he said it himself, but he's not the type of guy that would jump ship.

If he has said this he's a trooper. Franchise has treated him poorly by surrounding him with limited talent through his prime years, relying on him to be the MVP of the league just to squeeze into an 8th spot in the playoffs and instantly lose round 1.
 

CodeE

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Caus they get a ton in return for only 2 years of Tavares, who has to be disgruntled wasting his entire career on a team that can't win the cup because they rebuilt WAY too fast and failed to surround JT with enough talent on either side of the puck. Yes, I'm talking signing Boychuk and Leddy and additionally letting all your good wingers walk. It ruined the direction of the franchise, they will never win a cup with this team and Tavares would be wise to leave for a different team.

As such, the return by the OP is pretty excellent.

"Haha you guys suck so bad I can't wait til Tavares leaves in free agency because he hates the Islanders because I said so" said a fan from every single canadian team in every single NYI-[canadian team] trade proposal thread ever.

P.S. If you think signing Leddy was a "failure" in any sense of the word, you simply lack the overall hockey knowledge to make opinions and have people take them seriously.
 

SLAPSHOT723

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Caus they get a ton in return for only 2 years of Tavares, who has to be disgruntled wasting his entire career on a team that can't win the cup because they rebuilt WAY too fast and failed to surround JT with enough talent on either side of the puck. Yes, I'm talking signing Boychuk and Leddy and additionally letting all your good wingers walk. It ruined the direction of the franchise, they will never win a cup with this team and Tavares would be wise to leave for a different team.

As such, the return by the OP is pretty excellent.

Wait, you think signing Leddy was a bad move? :laugh: Oh my God, have you ever seen him play? And the rest of what you said is not true. Wasting his entire career?

But I guess we should just fold. Oh man.
 

entropism

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:shakehead

Caus they get a ton in return for only 2 years of Tavares, who has to be disgruntled wasting his entire career on a team that can't win the cup because they rebuilt WAY too fast and failed to surround JT with enough talent on either side of the puck. Yes, I'm talking signing Boychuk and Leddy and additionally letting all your good wingers walk. It ruined the direction of the franchise, they will never win a cup with this team and Tavares would be wise to leave for a different team.

As such, the return by the OP is pretty excellent.
 

HuGo Sham

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In comparison to Tavares and in the OP's trade they absolutely are.

Learn about context, it might help to take off those rose colored glasses.

actually WRONG. even with a player of Tavare's quality in deal, the two hab players mentioned still don't equal quantity

watch the habs a bit more, because well...you don't
 

entropism

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Are they lesser pieces, and more of them to even out the value of a better player?

Then. That. Is. What. We. Call. Quantity.

:help:
 

seafoam

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Probably not, but the gap sure as hell ain't worth Sergachev and another 2 1st rounders.

From the Islanders' perspective it is, from the Canadiens' perspective it's not.

I don't understand why that is so hard to understand.
 

angry pirate

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on these boards the word quantity has always had a negative connotation. period
:help:

This this this a million times this. People see multiple pieces and yell quantity. Quantity would be offering Plekanec, Scherbak, McCarron, Hudon and a 1st. That's a quantity for quality kind of trade offer.

Offering Galchenyuk, Sergachev, and two firsts is quality and quantity, while the former is only quantity.

If the isles were to trade Tavares I would think that a former 3rd OA, 22 year old, 30 goal scorer would be the expected centrepiece. Then adding the teams top prospect, and two more firsts is a very fair deal for the isles.
 

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