Confirmed with Link: Tanner Pearson and 3rd (2025) Traded to Montreal for Casey DeSmith

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Intriguing trade. Pearson's stock is not high right now, but we don't have many gritty forwards like him. It's still an area of need. If he's healthy, it's a nice book-end to the Hoffman trade. Even if not, at least we don't have a malcontent backup rotting on the bench behind two others. I get that most people would have traded Allen, but he had nowhere near the value of DeSmith given his salary.

 

[CGG]

Yet Hughes was MUCH more patient when Petry's previous request to be moved was made, and even though the Petry family's circumstances then were FAR more heartbreaking compared to 'family inconvenience' now. That patience helped the team, by the way, which is Hughes' job.

So in the past month, we went from having

Petry 2 years at 4.688M​

deSmith 1 year at 1.800M​

which are both decent contracts for their production

to now having the ridiculous burdens of:

Pearson plus deadspace for $5.594 this year​

deadspace of $2.344M next year​

2024-25 retention slot burned​

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...... but it's all good because we got a late 4th and a 3rd, both in 2025, for these 5 steps backwards?

Seriously?

I really don't understand the complaining. Sounds like for 2024-25 you'd rather have $4.688 M, 37-year old Petry in the lineup and disgruntled about having to finish out his career back in Canada for a team he already begged to be traded away from. The guy had no value. If he did, Hughes would have got more for him and the Penguins wouldn't have had to pay a 2nd + retain in order to dump him.

Deleting Petry and a similarly unwanted 32-year old backup goalie from a rebuilding team is not 5 steps backwards.

Hughes dumped Hoffman and ended up with a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and Pearson, plus picking up $2.344 M next season. Don't overthink it. That's a pile of assets completely out of thin air for a player we all thought would take a sweetener to dump. Not bad.

 

[Rapala]

In a cap era with an an over abundance of useless veteran forwards I think there is a limitation on how many assets you manage if you lose a player like Ylonen to waivers to make room for this guy. I am not saying that will happen but adding 1.4 million to the cap is also not good asset management.

I don't think there is any chance we are exposing Ylonen to waivers.

 

[FerrisRox]

Who else do we have to trade and retain on ?

Sean Monahan.

 

[schwang26]

It's nice to get a 3rd round pick. But not sure it will be worth it if it means Pearson takes away ice time from Ylonen...

No way to get rid of Armia except giving up assets or finding a bad GM like Grier that wants him. But not sure even the bad GM's want Armia.

I get the impression that new management is more than willing to give young guys ice time. If the deserve it, they'll play. If not, Pearson will play.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

My sense is that Dvorak will not be ready to start the season. Is that correct? In which case there's potentially less of a logjam at forward? Still would be nice to get rid of Armia (or some other vet), but there will be some injuries presumably, right?

 

[schwang26]

It's so bizarre. For a little bit more cap we got at least one decent asset and possibly a 2nd for a goalie we had no intention of keeping who was essentially a throw-in.

For god's sakes don't need to do cart wheels but my god what are people on about lol. It's too much.

And not everyone is even looking for an nhl goalie. The market would be very small. It's a minor deal and it always was. There was never going to be a big return. Hell, I thought he'd get a 4th and that's it!

 

[Rapala]

This I agree with. I have to trust this guy.

I think HuGo are more comfortable going into camp with a Pearson on the roster than four goaltenders. I think someone pointed out DeSmith was likely never going to play for us given his history.

 

[Miller Time]

Sean Monahan.

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His 1.9M contract shouldn't require retention to move. Health is the only barrier to moving him as the deadline approaches I would imagine

 

[rik schau]

My sense is that Dvorak will not be ready to start the season. Is that correct? In which case there's potentially less of a logjam at forward? Still would be nice to get rid of Armia (or some other vet), but there will be some injuries presumably, right?

I'm curious if Dvorak will be on injury reserve as he played during some 3 on 3 scrimmage. If he was healthy enough for that then he should be even healthier now.

 

[Rapala]

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His 1.9M contract shouldn't require retention to move. Health is the only barrier to moving him as the deadline approaches I would imagine

It's also possible that if he remains healthy he may prove to have more value to us going forward than anything we are offered. I think we have to take him at his word that he's feeling better than he has for years.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

It's also possible that if he remains healthy he may prove to have more value to us going forward than anything we are offered. I think we have to take him at his word that he's feeling better than he has for years.

Thinking the same thing. Hopefully he rehabs his groin and hips proactively.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Yet Hughes was MUCH more patient when Petry's previous request to be moved was made, and even though the Petry family's circumstances then were FAR more heartbreaking compared to 'family inconvenience' now. That patience helped the team, by the way, which is Hughes' job.

So in the past month, we went from having

Petry 2 years at 4.688M​

deSmith 1 year at 1.800M​

which are both decent contracts for their production

to now having the ridiculous burdens of:

Pearson plus deadspace for $5.594 this year​

deadspace of $2.344M next year​

2024-25 retention slot burned​

​

...... but it's all good because we got a late 4th and a 3rd, both in 2025, for these 5 steps backwards?

Seriously?

 

[MasterD]

It's also possible that if he remains healthy he may prove to have more value to us going forward than anything we are offered. I think we have to take him on his word that he's feeling better than he has for years.

Nah, his body will do the talking on and off the ice. Like last year.

 

[Miller Time]

It's also possible that if he remains healthy he may prove to have more value to us going forward than anything we are offered. I think we have to take him on his word that he's feeling better than he has for years.

Indeed.

If so, I could easily see him sign a team friendly 2-4 year extension... and I'd be perfectly happy with that despite the inevitable whining it would immediately trigger by the usual suspects.

 

[lamp9post]

Yet Hughes was MUCH more patient when Petry's previous request to be moved was made, and even though the Petry family's circumstances then were FAR more heartbreaking compared to 'family inconvenience' now. That patience helped the team, by the way, which is Hughes' job.

So in the past month, we went from having

Petry 2 years at 4.688M​

deSmith 1 year at 1.800M​

which are both decent contracts for their production

to now having the ridiculous burdens of:

Pearson plus deadspace for $5.594 this year​

deadspace of $2.344M next year​

2024-25 retention slot burned​

​

...... but it's all good because we got a late 4th and a 3rd, both in 2025, for these 5 steps backwards?

Seriously?

Ridiculous burdens? Lol, bit of an overreaction.

We're clearly rebuilding this season. Who cares about the Hoffmans, Legares, DeSmiths, Pearsons, Pitlicks etc. involved in this series of trades. At the end of this season they will all be UFAs and we'll quickly forget their names were ever associated with the Habs. This is just short term chair shuffling.

After this season you're left with 1 season of Petry's dead cap ($2.344M - which is the only 'burden' we take on in all this) and an extra 2nd, 3rd, & 4th round picks. I'd say that's more than fair compensation.

 

[the]

Nah, his body will do the talking on and off the ice. Like last year.

He was doing fine until he decided that he wanted to play injured against Calgary and aggravated his injury.

I think if he would have taken a few games to heal properly he would have been fine. He basically got injured because he was too stubborn and wanted to keep playing.

It was also encouraging that his hip was holding up. That was my main concern last season.

 

[jrom]

I get the impression that new management is more than willing to give young guys ice time. If the deserve it, they'll play. If not, Pearson will play.

This ! I’m all for giving young players ice time but if you can’t outperform Pearson coming back from LTIR to earn a roster spot, your spot is in Laval.

 

[jrom]

 

[BLONG7]

Yet Hughes was MUCH more patient when Petry's previous request to be moved was made, and even though the Petry family's circumstances then were FAR more heartbreaking compared to 'family inconvenience' now. That patience helped the team, by the way, which is Hughes' job.

So in the past month, we went from having

Petry 2 years at 4.688M​

deSmith 1 year at 1.800M​

which are both decent contracts for their production

to now having the ridiculous burdens of:

Pearson plus deadspace for $5.594 this year​

deadspace of $2.344M next year​

2024-25 retention slot burned​

​

...... but it's all good because we got a late 4th and a 3rd, both in 2025, for these 5 steps backwards?

Seriously?

You left out, we got a 2nd and got rid of Hoffman and Pitlick................everyone wanted that contract and Hoff gone...........and, the season has not even started......he has 26-27 bodies to deal with and we will probably have 22-23 on the team.
Some play checkers, and some play chess............agree or disagree.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Sean Monahan.

That's silly, imo. Monahan is worth two Dvorak.

 

[lamp9post]

I don't think there is any chance we are exposing Ylonen to waivers.

I feel like this year, moreso than previous seasons, they won't be shy about sending down vets if they get outplayed by young players in training camp (looking at you, Armia). In previous years the logic was that the young players weren't ready, could use another year of development and maybe Armia bounces back and restores his value in the meanwhile. However Armia has had his chances and there are hungry young players ready and competing for his roster spot. That previous logic no longer exists because the Habs have alternatives and roster spots are more scarce.

 

[BLONG7]

I feel like this year, moreso than previous seasons, they won't be shy about sending down vets if they get outplayed by young players in training camp (looking at you, Armia). In previous years the logic was that the young players weren't ready, could use another year of development and maybe Armia bounces back and restores his value in the meanwhile. However Armia has had his chances and there are hungry young players ready and competing for his roster spot. That previous logic no longer exists because the Habs have alternatives and roster spots are more scarce.

There was already an article written about the internal competition for all spots. MSL will be rewarding those who deserve it, hopefully.

 

[Tyson]

Amazing that a bottom 5 team has little openings for young players. You have to rid yourself of dead weight.

 

[Vachon23]

Yeah but the Petry trade was seperate and sucked.

The Petry trade was fine

Some posters just can’t evaluate the value of a players