VanillaCoke
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If by a long time you mean eight or nine months sure
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So what do you suggest they do here? Bench the stars? It is ridiculous to do that. We were never getting Bedard. There will be a good player available wherever they pick this year. The non-athletes here have no idea how competition works.
I think some are saying that which is ridiculous. there are others that want to scale back ice time, and I can agree with that, but think it isn't that easy when half the team is call ups.
theguardianII
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No, making the playoffs next year should be a gimme because other team falling back
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The annual Canucks hot streak building for next year(but they’ll fall flat on their faces and go 0-8 to start) draft position ruining in full effect
They were speculating on the post-game radio show, that some Canuck fans are still having Jim Benning PTSD flashbacks. A late season winning streak disappears into a mirage at the start of next season just like 'Groundhog Day'.
Is there any reason to think this edition of the Canucks will be any different? Well, I guess all you can hope for is that the current front office is light years ahead of the steaming pile of Benning-Weisbrod.
I think there's building evidence this win-streak just might be sustainable next season.
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No one is saying to outright bench the star players, but guys like Podkolzin and Kravtsov should not be at the bottom of the team in ice-time. Scale back the minutes of the top players and give more minutes to these young kids who you don't know what they are. See what you have with them and if they can be a building block for the future. But no, instead the coaching staff is doing everything they can to win games now so that management can sell their idea of a retool to a fanbase that seemed somewhat upset when they blew the Horvat return. And, as we've seen many times over the years, a large chunk of this fan base is gullible enough to buy it.
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False Hope...
I don't get this narrative. The people who are most positive about this team are not being super positive. They are pushing back on the there is no way forward but rebuild crowd... (I will add pushing back on the you can rebuild and Hughes and Petterson will stick around). Most are acknowledging this is a very hard strategy. rebuilding is also a hard strategy.
I don't get this narrative. The people who are most positive about this team are not being super positive. They are pushing back on the there is no way forward but rebuild crowd... (I will add pushing back on the you can rebuild and Hughes and Petterson will stick around). Most are acknowledging this is a very hard strategy. rebuilding is also a hard strategy.
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Canucks LB
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It’s gonna be tough to tank the blues, I think we’re basically fighting between eighth and ninth
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I honestly think we might end the season looking like the most dangerous team to ever miss the playoffs.
I mean we all thought that with bruce too, so I’m skeptical
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Their is still away we can finish behind ahead of the Coyotes two games against them left and only 2 points up. Lol at this point I will settle for Demko only playing 11 of our remaining 17 games.
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We cannot play the kids while we are trying to make the playoffs.
I see the Canucks are doing their annual "We don't want to draft too high" winning.
Bruce bump probably costed us a chance to draft Jiricek/Mintyukov/Mateychuk/Korchinski
Tocchet bump will probably cost us Benson/Smith/Reinbacher
Szechwan
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Pod and Krav playing under 9min, Demko playing 5 of the last 6.
Why??
Why??
theguardianII
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So he could increase Pettersson, Miller, Hughes, Boeser ice time.
To teach them a lesson? They have 25 seconds to earn better ice time, that is one shift.
To suppress their next contract expectations?
To make himself look good winning games against bottom third of the league teams by playing the best players twice as much as these guys?
To sell "HOPE" for next year, "See this is a good team" so step up a buy, buy, buy!
As usual the bottom teams are starting to win more often even with these recent wins the Canucks are still within reach of finishing 27th or 28th. All they have to do is lose those 4 point games to the teams chasing them.
Pettersson, Miller and Hughes will wear down soon playing 22+ minutes a game especially Hughes at close to half the game. There will be a kid playing on a bottom feeder that will hammer one of them yet, with the added ice time the odds go up that they get smoked in one of these mean nothing but a lousy draft slot games
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In a vacuum the payment for Hronek was fine. It's absolutely true that legitimate top 4 RHDs are very hard to come by. To me it's all about timing. I just think there are too many holes in the line-up and feel a longer term vision (involving holding on to picks) is necessary to finally get this club out of the doldrums. That's done by accumulating draft picks and younger assets, free up cap space, then make a series of deals from a position of strength.
Now, things can change very quickly. Nobody could have expected that Kuzmenko would be signed, and would perform the way he has. What if they're able to get the same kind of amazing find with a defenseman. What if they're able to find that cap space and get a solid 3C through a series of transactions involving their plethora of wingers. A lot of things can happen to make the Hronek move look astute in hindsight. I just believe the safer way to do it is to build a foundation of strength then deal from that foundation. it's kinda a tortoise and hare situation. Be patient, take strong steps and in the end you'll win.
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There is no time for a longer term vision..The time is now with EP and Hughes (and Demko) entering their prime years.
Its shit ,or get off the pot time.
With respect PoM this take drives me nuts. There is always time for a long term vision. And that vision is always formed based on the current status. EP and Hughes entering their primes is completely irrelevant to whether the team is ready to be competitive. It's not even close. This team isn't just one player away from being competitive, it's 5 players and several ugly contracts away.
Since it's clear that management has decided to win now, I am reluctantly embracing the strategy and am hopeful that they can make the moves to fill those 5ish holes and clear cap space (they'll need another 2 or 3 Kuzmenko level wins and some extremely favourable trades). To me it's just a low probability strategy where close to everything has to go right for the team to be successful long term. And this is true whether or not EP and Hughes are ready to compete.
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And to provide some context, a team that had 2 Sedins, Kesler, and Burrows in their primes at forward, and Bieksa, a young Edler, and Salo on D, Luongo in his prime, still needed to add Samuelsson, Hamhuis, and Ehrhoff and move off of aging/injured Ohlund and Mitchell to put them over the top.
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Gurn
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Just heard Tochett say words to the effect that' Need to see if those guys can play well, if we go into double overtime' on am650
Hehehehe
double overtime ....... lol.
Has tocchet ever finished a season with a winning record? I would imagine that means a lot to him
Seems to me the Canucks are treating Hughes and Pettersson, much like they did with the Sedins. The mantra in the early days of the Linden-Benning regime was that 'you can't tear it down and start over, as long as Henrik and Daniel are productive players' .
Fast forward to 2023, and the philosophy is unchanged. "You can't do a 'tear it down' rebuild, because Petey, Hughes and Demko are in their prime".....it's not fair to them.
But the bottom line, is that the Canucks are a lottery team for the third year in a row; and since 2020, they've traded three first round draft picks; and four second rounders.
And despite all the rosy optimism of this late season coaching bump, they'll be a universal pick to be a lottery team again next year.
Fast forward to 2023, and the philosophy is unchanged. "You can't do a 'tear it down' rebuild, because Petey, Hughes and Demko are in their prime".....it's not fair to them.
But the bottom line, is that the Canucks are a lottery team for the third year in a row; and since 2020, they've traded three first round draft picks; and four second rounders.
And despite all the rosy optimism of this late season coaching bump, they'll be a universal pick to be a lottery team again next year.
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