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[Mione134]

If I've learned one thing about being online, it's that it's only a matter of time before the porn bots find you.

Yep.

They're on Facebook. They're on YouTube.

They're everywhere

 

[GatorMike]

 

[McGarnagle]

Yep.

They're on Facebook. They're on YouTube.

They're everywhere

They're on hfboards, and their name is @dabid

 

[Mione134]

Don't give me hope

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Don't give me hope

Right?

I said it a few pages back. Maybe, just maybe he gets into Henry's moneyball head and checks all the boxes.

 

[CDJ]

Right?

I said it a few pages back. Maybe, just maybe he gets into Henry's moneyball head and checks all the boxes.

Soto being only 26 next year is probably a factor in them being willing to splurge on him. You’d essentially be purchasing the entire prime of a generational talent. You almost never have the opportunity to do that in free agency. He’s a once in a lifetime free agent.

It’s not like buying into him when he’s 30 or even 28. Getting him at 26 makes a big difference on a 12+ year deal

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Soto being only 26 next year is probably a factor in them being willing to splurge on him. You’d essentially be purchasing the entire prime of a generational talent. You almost never have the opportunity to do that in free agency. He’s a once in a lifetime free agent.

It’s not like buying into him when he’s 30 or even 28. Getting him at 26 makes a big difference on a 12+ year deal

Agreed, plus a best ever OBP which will help as he ages.

 

[GatorMike]

What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...

 

[CDJ]

What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...

Def Juan because generational talent

 

[GatorMike]

Def Juan because generational talent

Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.

 

[CDJ]

Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.

Can’t really go wrong with either option imo i just would prefer the megastar and would deal from the outfield depth to get pitching

 

[JRull86]

Soto all day everyday. He makes the lineup way better by slotting everyone correctly. You can also use that signing to deal away someone like Abreyu for a starter and, you've actually improved.

I think the play is sign Soto, deal Abreyu ++ for Crochet, sign a mid tier starter, and fill out bullpen.

Ideally deal Yoshida as well, but you're taking a bad contract or eating money there, so who knows

 

[KOZ37]

Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.

What if they get Soto, trade for Crochet, and make a run at Sasaki? The latter two won't make a lot and still leaves the ability to sign a closer. Hopefully Fulmer and Liam Hendricks can contribute as well.

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...

Soto

Now you can trade Abreau for Crochet and Antony or Campbell or Durran for another young pitcher.

If I could bet, I would say none of the Big 4 will be as good as Soto.

 

[sarge88]

Soto all day everyday. He makes the lineup way better by slotting everyone correctly. You can also use that signing to deal away someone like Abreyu for a starter and, you've actually improved.

I think the play is sign Soto, deal Abreyu ++ for Crochet, sign a mid tier starter, and fill out bullpen.

Ideally deal Yoshida as well, but you're taking a bad contract or eating money there, so who knows

But, if you have Soto -- you can package Yoshida with Anthony for a better return, because Soto, Rafaella, Duran could be your outfield for the next 7-8 years.

 

[Midship]

Better chance I sign Soto be my personal, unpaid assistant

 

[JRull86]

But, if you have Soto -- you can package Yoshida with Anthony for a better return, because Soto, Rafaella, Duran could be your outfield for the next 7-8 years.

I am not attaching Anthony with essentially a salary dump. He's basically untouchable despite having a log jam in the OF.

I am in no way shape or form trading him for pitching either

 

[sarge88]

I am not attaching Anthony with essentially a salary dump. He's basically untouchable despite having a log jam in the OF.

I am in no way shape or form trading him for pitching either

Really?

I'm not suggesting a salary dump --- but why not pitching?

What if CWS wanted him for Crochet ---- and Soto was already signed?

 

[McGarnagle]

Duran
Devers
Soto
Casas
Story
Gleyber Torres
Yoshida
Wong
Rafaella/Roman Anthony

Let's go

 

[DKH]

But, if you have Soto -- you can package Yoshida with Anthony for a better return, because Soto, Rafaella, Duran could be your outfield for the next 7-8 years.

What???

 

[sarge88]

What???

If the Sox signed Soto --- ostensibly the OF could/would be:

Soto - Rafaella - Duran for 7-8 years

Move Anthony in a package for pitching.

Or keep Anthony and move Rafaella or Duran ---

Either way --- if they were to sign Soto they have flexibility to move an OF or OF prospect.

And -- this is all suggested with the thought that Abreu is being moved.

If that doesn't happen ---

How do you play --

Duran, Soto, Abreau, Rafaella, Anthony

Something has to give --- even if Rafaella moves to the IF.

 

[DKH]

This Soto stuff is hilarious

Steve Cohan wants him it’s done

If the Sox signed Soto --- ostensibly the OF could/would be:

Soto - Rafaella - Duran for 7-8 years

Move Anthony in a package for pitching.

Or keep Anthony and move Rafaella or Duran ---

Either way --- if they were to sign Soto they have flexibility to move an OF or OF prospect.

And -- this is all suggested with the thought that Abreu is being moved.

If that doesn't happen ---

How do you play --

Duran, Soto, Abreau, Rafaella, Anthony

Something has to give --- even if Rafaella moves to the IF.

You falling for Soto

There is 0.0 chance the Red Sox sign him

 

[Mione134]

I'll keep Duran and Anthony tyvm.

 

[sarge88]

This Soto stuff is hilarious

Steve Cohan wants him it’s done


You falling for Soto

There is 0.0 chance the Red Sox sign him

Just doing what everyone does this time of year -- hoping.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Keep Anthony. Some writers think he might be special. Also, I am not sold on Duran and don't even like Abreu.