Talk me off the ledge about Trevor Lawrence

[Troy McClure]

It's also not right to compare 40 year old Rodgers to year four Rodgers when it comes to football prep.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Hey, at least he's not remotely in the same stratosphere of busts as Bryce Young.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Lawrence has not played well but the Jags have a lot more issues beyond the QB position

 

[Peat]

They made him the highest paid player at the time

How crippling is it for a franchise to give an average QB a ticket like that?
Just no way to get out of it without it destroying the org

Lawrence's contract is structured in a way where effectively the Jags are tied to him on average QB money for the next four years, and then there's two years where he'd get astronomic money but the Jags can cut him easily if they don't like his play and don't want to give it to him.

It's not nearly the contract that the APY makes it out to be and really not that crippling at all.

 

[BB88]

Lawrence's contract is structured in a way where effectively the Jags are tied to him on average QB money for the next four years, and then there's two years where he'd get astronomic money but the Jags can cut him easily if they don't like his play and don't want to give it to him.

It's not nearly the contract that the APY makes it out to be and really not that crippling at all.

He has what 200M in total quarantees?

I’d call that crippling with their hopes of going anywhere soon

So they are stuck with average QB making elite money

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I don't think a lot of people realize how bad the team/situation are in Jacksonville right now.

Might be the worst situation/org to be in right now for a QB, I'd rather be on the Panthers, Giants

 

[HisIceness]

0-4, hasn't won a game since Thanksgiving of last year.

Again, he isn't playing for the most stable franchise but he isn't a rookie anymore and he plays like one.

Jaguars fans have to be frustrated. Not only is the supposed-to-be franchise savior not playing well, but CJ Stroud is tearing it up and plays in the same division, and also hasn't gotten his big boy contract yet.

 

[Karterthadon]

0-4, hasn't won a game since Thanksgiving of last year.

No franchise QB has such streaks no matter how ass your team is.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

You could make an argument that he could be a good QB elsewhere, but I’d stand by the point that supposedly great QBs don’t lose this much regardless.

 

[BB88]

You could make an argument that he could be a good QB elsewhere, but I’d stand by the point that supposedly great QBs don’t lose this much regardless.

I mean he seems to miss every big throw by 10 yards, how is that on anyone else than him?

He’s completely out of sync

 

[Romang67]

I think he had a stretch where it looks like he was breaking out to become one of the premier QBs in the game. 2022 up until he had his 4th or so injury in 2023, he was up there as an arguably top 10 QB in the league.

But to come back healthy in year 4 and be so off? If you're a Jags fan, I think you just sit back and hope that a coaching change gets him back on track.

 

[GKJ]

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Very underwhelming to watch

Yeah, Jags aren't good and his WR's have had some drops but some of his piss poor throws were costly including the underthrow to wide open WR that hit Bear in back instead of being easy TD

And then awful pick

 

[GKJ]

 

[Melrose Munch]

brutal loss

jags need to move on but they wont

 

[Avs_19]

It's ugly there all around. A lot of the excuses (coaching, offense, drops, etc) are valid but I just don't want to hear those excuses anymore. Don't need all of the nerds telling me how good he actually is when I'm watching games every week where he's missing throws. Big time important throws too like the ones today when he has guys open and throws short or is just inaccurate. It's been years and years of this now.

Having said all of that, coaching is their biggest issue. Incredibly poorly coached.

 

[Unholy Diver]

I'd give him a couple more years at least

 

[Karterthadon]

That contract is second worst in the league behind Deshaun Watson only.

 

[mouser]

I think he had a stretch where it looks like he was breaking out to become one of the premier QBs in the game. 2022 up until he had his 4th or so injury in 2023, he was up there as an arguably top 10 QB in the league.

But to come back healthy in year 4 and be so off? If you're a Jags fan, I think you just sit back and hope that a coaching change gets him back on track.

I thought Lawrence would really break out last season, instead he single-handedly tanked my main fantasy team.

 

[Melrose Munch]

go from 9:15 on.