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BK said:
I already stated that I misspoke on the ELC but also clearly stated he would not have lasted a whole season in the AHL as he was the last player D cut in the preseason. He would have been called up.

It is pretty clear you are just stat watching. Look at the players you mention and then you will notice a large portion come from the PP which with is highly impacted by other players. You mention all players that have played on NA ice for a long period of time yet Boqvist is keeping up with all of them. Boqvist has been a ppg player all season and now we are seeing a up tick in numbers as he has gotten more comfortable on NA ice. Might want to check PPG numbers instead of raw numbers as well as Boqvist is a top 5-6 D. He is also a shot generator. All of this plus the fact that he has not struggled defensively at all. You need to start actually watching these player play instread of just looking at stats. Boqvist is not close to a disappointment.

Timmins? He has not been close to better. Come on.

What would you consider not a disappointment?
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You really need to quit digging yourself into a deeper hole. Several second rounders last year had better draft+1 seasons than Boqvist's draft+1 season so far this year.

Anyone who saw the Greyhounds last year can tell you that Timmins in his draft+1 season was better defensively than Boqvist is this year.

And offensively, Timmins was better as well. Points per game:

Timmins 1.13
Boqvist 1.08

Yet Timmins was "not close to better"? Give your head a shake.
 
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Wings4Life said:
You really need to quit digging yourself into a deeper hole. Several second rounders last year had better draft+1 seasons than Boqvist's draft+1 season so far this year.

Anyone who saw the Greyhounds last year can tell you that Timmins in his draft+1 season was better defensively than Boqvist is this year.

And offensively, Timmins was better as well. Points per game:

Timmins 1.13
Boqvist 1.08

Yet Timmins was "not close to better"? Give your head a shake.
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Again you are just stat sheet watching.

Timmins is not better that Boqvist. Timmins has played on NA ice his whole life and had already played with the Soo for 2 seasons prior yet Boqvist producing at the same rate which has been increasing of late. Timmins was also a year older (9/18/98).

Boqvist has not struggled defensively like you seem to think he has. Hell he showcased his ability to play solid D in the NHL preseason.

It is like you haven't watched a single game and just look at stat sheets...oh wait that is clearly what you are doing.
 
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Wings4Life said:
Wrong again. I live in Canada and go to the games at least twice a month. Doubt you've ever been to an OHL game though.

Do you deny Timmins in his draft+1 season was better defensively than Boqvist is this year?
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Considering I grew up in Detroit area and playing hockey throughout Ontario, I have actually seen a lot of OHL game live in person. I also have the OHL live package so I will see 40+ plus games this year minimum.

I don't think there is a huge gap between Boqvist and Timmins. Is Timmins better? Sure by a little (and it is getting closer each game) but Boqvist is not bad defensively like you are implying. Boqvist is much more dynamic offensively. The gap between Boqvist and Timmins offensively is much larger than Timmins and Boqvist defensively.

None of this is to say Timmins is bad or anything close to that.

What numbers should Boqvist being putting up to not be a disappointment in your eyes?
 
BK said:
Considering I grew up in Detroit area and playing hockey throughout Ontario, I have actually seen a lot of OHL game live in person. I also have the OHL live package so I will see 40+ plus games this year minimum.

I don't think there is a huge gap between Boqvist and Timmins. Is Timmins better? Sure by a little (and it is getting closer each game) but Boqvist is not bad defensively like you are implying. Boqvist is much more dynamic offensively. The gap between Boqvist and Timmins offensively is much larger than Timmins and Boqvist defensively.

None of this is to say Timmins is bad or anything close to that.

What numbers should Boqvist being putting up to not be a disappointment in your eyes?
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I never said Boqvist was "bad" defensively. He's an offensive defenceman and that is his role. It would be nice if he could match and succeed what 2nd round picks like Hague/Timmins put up in their draft + 1 seasons in the OHL. Still has time, and a good team to do it on.
 
jaguarens said:
Seems like Eriksson Ek will be in in the net tonight.
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"Fotnot: I en tidigare version av texten hänvisade SportExpressen till uppgifter från Hockeynews.se gällande att Olle Eriksson Ek skulle vakta målet i stället för Samuel Ersson. Uppgifterna visade sig felaktiga och har därför plockats bort."
Storstjärnan missar – och han får stå i mål

Looks like that's incorrect info.
 
That was the best performance by a Swedish team against the USA i've seen in this tournament (aside from the late meltdown).

Wasn't a big Sandin fan in his draft year but I'm impressed now, he'd be an upgrade to our lousy PK. Boqvist, Brännström, Bemström and Gustafsson are also looking good.

On the negative side, the Lundeström line has to start producing with the icetime they are getting. Ginning is also not someone I want to see on the ice when defending a lead late in a game.
 
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theslatcher said:
"Fotnot: I en tidigare version av texten hänvisade SportExpressen till uppgifter från Hockeynews.se gällande att Olle Eriksson Ek skulle vakta målet i stället för Samuel Ersson. Uppgifterna visade sig felaktiga och har därför plockats bort."
Storstjärnan missar – och han får stå i mål

Looks like that's incorrect info.
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Yep, read it on hockeynews before the game. Strange that they are wrong when they’re watches the team so close.
 
Goddamn I fell asleep after the 1st period, I hate that games start this late. It started 4.30 AM over here in Sweden. Seems like I missed an amazing game.
 
Wings4Life said:
I never said Boqvist was "bad" defensively. He's an offensive defenceman and that is his role. It would be nice if he could match and succeed what 2nd round picks like Hague/Timmins put up in their draft + 1 seasons in the OHL. Still has time, and a good team to do it on.
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Wasn’t Timmins also one of the oldest guys in his draft class? Boqvist was a few weeks away from being draft elligable this year. Timmins was 11 months older than Boqvist was when he was drafted. Doesn’t it make more sense to compare Timmins draft season to Boqvists d+1?
 
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playing in na have really had big impact on boqvist and sandin, they are both physical in their own end, especially sandin. they did not have this gritty side when they played in sweden.
 
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Eye of Ra said:
playing in na have really had big impact on boqvist and sandin, they are both physical in their own end, especially sandin. they did not have this gritty side when they played in sweden.
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To be fair, lots of players have changed their games for the better since the introduction of Gritty.
 
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Wings4Life said:
You really need to quit digging yourself into a deeper hole. Several second rounders last year had better draft+1 seasons than Boqvist's draft+1 season so far this year.

Anyone who saw the Greyhounds last year can tell you that Timmins in his draft+1 season was better defensively than Boqvist is this year.

And offensively, Timmins was better as well. Points per game:

Timmins 1.13
Boqvist 1.08

Yet Timmins was "not close to better"? Give your head a shake.
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Yeah but Timmins was also 19 in his draft+1 season, he missed the cutoff for his year by 3 days. So if you really want a comparison, use Timmins draft season and not his D+1 season because he’s basically a full year older than Boqvist.
 
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Vesperia said:
boqvist will probably make hawks next season. Soderstrom will anchor the blueline, he is amazing for Brynas right now.
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Do they have room for him?

Keith-Jokiharju
Forsling-Seabrook
Dahlstrom-Murphy

Whose spot is he taking? Seabrook and Murphy have big contracts and Jokiharju has already played well in the NHL. I think he'll start next season in the AHL.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
Do they have room for him?

Keith-Jokiharju
Forsling-Seabrook
Dahlstrom-Murphy

Whose spot is he taking? Seabrook and Murphy have big contracts and Jokiharju has already played well in the NHL. I think he'll start next season in the AHL.
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You’re forgetting about Gustafsson, unless he’s traded. He’s improving defensively, and is excellent offensively. Also, Mitchell will by all accounts be given a chance to make the Hawks next year. Forsling could be the odd man out. Perhaps traded, particularly given the upcoming Seattle expansion draft and the risk of losing him. The Hawks will be looking to stagger the incoming rookie defenseman coming in over the next few years...Jokiharju and Dahlstrom this year, Mitchell +/- Boqvist next year, Beaudin following year.

Unless Boqvist dominates in camp, he likely starts in the AHL, and is first call up. I can see Dahlstrom, Seabrook and Mitchell rotating in, with Jokiharju, Keith, Gustafsson, and Murphy the main four.
 
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