Swayman Vs The Bruins

[RobsonStreet]

Who makes up this old core you speak of?

McAvoy, their youngest core player is 26. That doesn’t track with a world where Ullmark is too old.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Read what I was replying to.

I apologize, maybe it makes sense to back track from time to time, sorry man

 

[Sol]

Why do people care about this random goalie again? Hyped goalies come and go like the cycle of the moon and sun. Boston should consider themselves lucky if they lose him. No goalie is worth that kind of money. The elite guard of goalies are gone. You just need some decent goalie to win. Nothing else.

 

[wetcoast]

PKs take

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841544592447177008

PK is 100% right.

 

[danpantz]

McAvoy, their youngest core player is 26. That doesn’t track with a world where Ullmark is too old.

26!

Better bring that old man outside and put him down. Yuck

 

[RobsonStreet]

26!

Better bring that old man outside and put him down. Yuck

Craig Robinson as the Bouncer in Knocked Up: I can't let you in cause you're old as f***. For this club, you know, not for the earth.

Their window is right now, not years from now when Ullmark is retired, Swayman is maybe playing somewhere and Boston is two GMs removed from this mess.

 

[DoubleBack]

PK is 100% right.

If true, I guess there is a first time for everything.

 

[Menzinger]

Everything before the Bruins came out and said something that was in the media made Boston look cheap and bad. None of those rumors were obviously coming from Boston's side. Gross was trying to build up pressure on Boston through the Chiclets guys. Cool, well played.

Heading into a potential no contract on the first day of the season... you don't want to be the side with the fans against you.

So Boston let out their extremely extremely reasonable offer to shift the narrative. Of course them rounding up to 64m instead of down to 63m left Gross with a chance to call them all liars. That was a mistake. But them going to the media after Gross had been sneaky leaking to the media to drive the narrative is totally reasonable.

The Bruins aren't the Harry Sinden Bruins. Pasta, McAvoy, all the guys are fairly paid. 8x8 is fair for Swayman.

It's Swayman's camp wanting to stick to 8 years that is the problem here, really. It would be so much easier to agree on a 4x7 deal and let Swayman cash in again before he is 30 just like Helly and Saros did.

Interestingly is that Gross kept incredibly tight lipped during the Nylander negotiations. There were almost no major rumors leaked prior to the signing, and certainly nothing contentious and antagonistic.

Which would suggest that either 1) Gross isnt using the media as he doesn't have much of a history of doing some OR 2) relations between team and player are about as toxic as they can get at this point

 

[nbwingsfan]

I disagree. He is free to try to get as much as he can. There is nothing wrong with him doing so.

I disagree. He is free to try to get as much as he can. There is nothing wrong with him doing so.

So there’s nothing wrong with say, Fantilli sitting out because he wants $14m?

You wouldn’t think that’s ridiculous?

 

[The Burdened]

PKs take

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841544592447177008

He is 100% correct. I'll never begrudge someone trying to get the most money they can for a job.

However, it kinda ignores the bombshell dropped about him writing down the negatives that were used against him in arbitration and him being pety towards the team. That is killing Swayman in the court of public opinion now because to some it comes across that he is acting like a woman airing dirty laundry for a Netflix show. If he writes that down for personal motivation and nobody knows? No problem with that. However, he did not do that. He did nothing but damage his rep by making that info public and is now further creating a circus around the team.

Contract holdouts happen all the time across sports and that is a routine circus. It gets worked out. Leaking arbitration pettiness against an organization does not happen all the time, and now that has throw a big thing of fuel on the fire and made this a bigger deal than it should be.

 

[AM]

Maybe Neely wasn't lying. Maybe he didn't offer 64 million but he sat down one night and decided to make a list of all the reasons he would be playing and he was able to think of 64 million reasons not related to money.

Reason number 1, I like the yellow on the jerseys, reason number 2.....

Reason number 3 if they agree on 64 I’ll say yes.

 

[TooManyHumans]

So there’s nothing wrong with say, Fantilli sitting out because he wants $14m?

You wouldn’t think that’s ridiculous?

Ridiculous or wrong? It would be ridiculous but it wouldn't be wrong of him, just dumb.

 

[BB79]

Ridiculous or wrong? It would be ridiculous but it wouldn't be wrong of him, just dumb.

I would argue that if it's dumb, it's probably wrong as well.

 

[Brookbank]

Im not sure if this has been mentioned but Alan Walsh just said on his podcast that Swayman can technically be offer sheeted.

So the question is, if he's worth more than the Bruins are offering, why hasn't he been offer sheeted ?

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Im not sure if this has been mentioned but Alan Walsh just said on his podcast that Swayman can technically be offer sheeted.

So the question is, if he's worth more than the Bruins are offering, why hasn't he been offer sheeted ?

Yep. Nobody is going to give up what it takes to offer sheet him, on top of sign him at what he wants.

Matter of fact, there is no way a team would give him 8x8 even if he were a UFA. A rebuilding team isn't going to spend that kind of money on a goalie and a contender wouldn't have the cap room to overpay for a goalie on a 8-year deal. Boston's reported offer is incredibly generous. Swayman is a moron for not understanding reality and not taking 8x8. He won't get any better than that based on his credentials.

 

[McPoyle]

Bruins really about to go from a Swayman/Ullmark tandem to.... Korpisalo. Interesting.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Bruins really about to go from a Swayman/Ullmark tandem to.... Korpisalo. Interesting.

I don't have a high opinion of what I saw of Korpisalo last season, but Boston is a better organization that plays much better team defense. He could surprise people.

I think Boston is still an excellent team and will be one of the top teams in the East, even with the goaltending situation.

 

[Trash Panda]

I don't have a high opinion of what I saw of Korpisalo last season, but Boston is a better organization that plays much better team defense. He could surprise people.

I think Boston is still an excellent team and will be one of the top teams in the East, even with the goaltending situation.

Korpisalo was cheeks for the Kings for his brief stint.

I just don’t think he is a great goaltender, regardless of team.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Korpisalo was cheeks for the Kings for his brief stint.

I just don’t think he is a great goaltender, regardless of team.

I watched a lot of him in Ottawa last season. Ottawa is a tire fire, but he was also quite bad.

I think any goaltender will look better with proper structure in front of him, though.

 

[thefutures]

Bruins really about to go from a Swayman/Ullmark tandem to.... Korpisalo. Interesting.

We're gunna see how that "system" holds up.

 

[BB79]

Bruins really about to go from a Swayman/Ullmark tandem to.... Korpisalo. Interesting.

We had a decent run. One cup and a whole bunch of disappointment. Par for the course with this franchise over the last half century. We need to raise an "Oh well, we came close" banner into the rafters. Sums them up perfectly.

I don't even expect them to make the playoffs this season TBH. Even with Swayman. This isn't the 2011 Bruins, and they overachieved last season. It's more embarrassing letting Ullmark go before getting the Swayman situation settled. Dumb move.

 

[brentashton]

We had a decent run. One cup and a whole bunch of disappointment. Par for the course with this franchise over the last half century. We need to raise an "Oh well, we came close" banner into the rafters. Sums them up perfectly.

I don't even expect them to make the playoffs this season TBH. Even with Swayman. This isn't the 2011 Bruins, and they overachieved last season. It's more embarrassing letting Ullmark go before getting the Swayman situation settled. Dumb move.

Check with Nashville. I hear they have a company on retainer.

 

[MoneyManny]

Tbh I don’t even see the problem with saying 64 million vs 63 million. The point he was trying to make would’ve been the same had he said 60 million or 70 million or anything in between, the bruins are offering a very very fair contract to Swayman and he is turning that down because he wants an unprecedented dramatic overpayment (I’ve heard of this before, see the team I follow).

and if Swayman is the one pushing for a long term deal, then this makes less sense. He’s unproven for an 8x8 or close to that, whether people believe that or not because of 50 games doesn’t change that. All comparables played more so there was more insurance. If Boston is gambling long term here, they have to get some benefit I.e a lower cap hit than the more proven tenders who signed in the past

I think Swayman is being unreasonable and selfish with his demands, whilst completely in his right by the CBA, but idk if that’s how it’ll be seen in the fans eyes.

How can you possibly call the man selfish? He's negociating his salary at work. This is his career, what feeds his family.

The reason i hate hard salary caps like in the NHL is that it unjustly turns the fans against the players. Don't be like that.

 

[JOKER 192]

PK is 100% right.

that's right PK , everybody needs to shut up , including you.

 

[SensontheRush]

How can you possibly call the man selfish? He's negociating his salary at work. This is his career, what feeds his family.

The reason i hate hard salary caps like in the NHL is that it unjustly turns the fans against the players. Don't be like that.

We are talking generational wealth here, not what feeds his family. More like "will my great-great grandchildren have a winery in Tuscany or not?".