Suzuki vs Caufield - Pick one to build with

[Lafleurs Guy]

Why not open the poll and let people change their votes?

Not an option now.

 

[HabsMD97]

This poll is giving me flashbacks of Peohling being named our top prospect lol difference being Suzuki is actually a good player.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

This poll is giving me flashbacks of Peohling being named our top prospect lol difference being Suzuki is actually a good player.

I wanted this poll to be captured as it is now. I didn’t want people to be able to change their vote. Sometime - maybe next season or beyond - this question will be asked again. As I said earlier I’ll expect a vastly different result.

At his best, Suzuki’s a legit number one. I don’t think he’s a superstar but he’s really good. But CC is another level. His goal numbers on this team are flat out crazy. He’s doing it almost on his own now that the team cratered. His analytics only back it up. He’s an insanely good player now and he’s going to get better. And I can’t imagine how good his numbers would’ve been this year if we’d had a good team.

When he’s on the ice the ice we outshoot the opposition by a significant amount. His analytics relative to teammates is at a Crosby level right now. This kid’s a stud.

 

[HabsMD97]

I wanted this poll to be captured as it is now. I didn’t want people to be able to change their vote. Sometime - maybe next season or beyond - this question will be asked again. As I said earlier I’ll expect a vastly different result.

At his best, Suzuki’s a legit number one. I don’t think he’s a superstar but he’s really good. But CC is another level. His goal numbers on this team are flat out crazy. He’s doing it almost on his own now that the team cratered. His analytics only back it up. He’s an insanely good player now and he’s going to get better. And I can’t imagine how good his numbers would’ve been this year if we’d had a good team.

When he’s on the ice the ice we outshoot the opposition by a significant amount. His analytics relative to teammates is at a Crosby level right now. This kid’s a stud.

Yup although I've never been one to think Suzuki will be a #1 center. He's in the Lindholm/Kadri tier of centers, tremendous 2nd line center but not a true #1 on a cup contender (I only have around maybe 15 true #1 centers in the league). These players aren't easy to get..but not extremely difficult to get either. To me, Caufield is a Pastrnak level of player, those guys do NOT get traded. Only reason Caufield isn't getting as many points is because he is the only shooter on his line. Once he gets another shooter that will unlock his playmaking abilities. He's gonna be a 50g-30a player in his prime hitting 90 pts at his peak.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

I wanted this poll to be captured as it is now. I didn’t want people to be able to change their vote. Sometime - maybe next season or beyond - this question will be asked again. As I said earlier I’ll expect a vastly different result.

At his best, Suzuki’s a legit number one. I don’t think he’s a superstar but he’s really good. But CC is another level. His goal numbers on this team are flat out crazy. He’s doing it almost on his own now that the team cratered. His analytics only back it up. He’s an insanely good player now and he’s going to get better. And I can’t imagine how good his numbers would’ve been this year if we’d had a good team.

When he’s on the ice the ice we outshoot the opposition by a significant amount. His analytics relative to teammates is at a Crosby level right now. This kid’s a stud.

Agreed, sick player. And the eye test doesn't lie either, everytime he has the puck something good happens, he's extremely crafty and intelligent with the puck. Caufield > Suzuki.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Sens fan here. I think Debrincat being reliant on teammates is a weak narrative. Many thought he would be worse without Kane. He’s sitting at a very low 9.5% sh% right now, so he likely has closer to 20 goals and over point per game pace now with normal luck. Cat goes I to the corners and makes his own plays and is great defensively.

I Like Caufield’s shot more - he seems to be able to score from just about anywhere. As an all around player, he’s not better than Debrincat though, not now at least. Could very well be in the future though. I see him in that 40-55 goal range for much of his 20s, and I doubt you see as much yo-yoing in goals as Debrincat. I don’t see him scoring less than 35-40 in a season without an injury - his shot and ability to get to places he needs to be is too good. And the kid cares a lot, so I’m not concerned he becomes lazy.

Any thoughts of Suzukis potential? Is he a point per game player or is what we see now what he is ?

Suzuki had a great start to the year and he does have it in him to be a legit number one center. Point per game I think is possible for him, maybe more on a good team.

But a superstar he ain't. Not in my opinion anyway. Good two way player but not such a rare talent that you take him over the legit superstar that I believe Caufield will become. Even at his best, CC still had better analytics this year.

This was supposed to be the year Suzuki arrived and he delivered in the first part of the year. The skills are there. He's got a great shot too. But he hasn't been able to show the consistency yet. Perhaps it's an injury or maybe it's another slump. His dropoff coincides with Monahan getting hurt so I think it's the latter.

Long and short of it, I see his potential as a number one center - not a superstar. And while he's shown he can be the number one guy, he needs to show he can do it consistently.