Sudbury Wolves 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 5)

[Wolf on a Wire]

Off ice issues are to expected when you keep a player who was a known problem last year, who made it known that he didn't want to be here but you refused to trade ultimately forcing him to play for a team he doesn't want to play for. Not sure what anybody expected. I am actually surprised he is playing as good as he is. That being said, he should have been traded, even with the lower value.

100% disagree with this post. As the Rolling Stones song goes, “you don’t always get what you want”. This kid has a goal of becoming a pro hockey player and wether you believe it or not, holding him accountable and making him a better leader and teammate is more important than shipping him off for a bag of practice pucks. Good on the Wolves for holding they’re ground and not catering. If he was the ideal player with no warts, he’d be playing elsewhere and the Wolves would have a 08 prospect and a boat load of picks. But they don’t and Musty continues to be a healthy scratch.
Just for once I’d like the player to own their own sh1t.
If he can’t make it here because his feelings are hurt, he’s doomed as a hockey player and he’ll never reached his goal as a NHL pro..

 

[billoink]

What makes you think nothing of value was offered for Musty? RinP decided to keep him to supposedly go all in. Would you want us to believe nothing of value was offered for the likes of Delic,McCoy, and our other overagers? This was the Gms decision and we will never know what was offered for Musty and what other offers were put forward if they decided to be sellers. The future was put on hold when they decided to go on some kind of half ass run thus no returns on players that will be gone at the end of the season. My thoughts are different on the direction they went, what do others think?

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

What makes you think nothing of value was offered for Musty? RinP decided to keep him to supposedly go all in. Would you want us to believe nothing of value was offered for the likes of Delic,McCoy, and our other overagers? This was the Gms decision and we will never know what was offered for Musty and what other offers were put forward if they decided to be sellers. The future was put on hold when they decided to go on some kind of half ass run thus no returns on players that will be gone at the end of the season. My thoughts are different on the direction they went, what do others think?

Are you sure it was the GMs decision or the owners?

 

[billoink]

The owner pays the GM to oversee the club especially when he has stated from the beginning he knows nothing about hockey. Dario would have given his approval trusting in his judgement. The same approval he gave the GM to not call up ANY affliates from cubs for Rps disapproval of playing Chartier in the Soo which led to his suspension. He pulled a Trump on the cubs affecting all players, and this is fact.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Billionk: I value your (often negative) opinion on the Wolves’s Boards. Your input gives me pause to consider the opposite side of my own beliefs. You raise some valid and interesting points of view.
I don’t ever remember posting/telling anyone that their posts are wrong. I have posted that I don’t agree. My info and understanding about our GM/Owner and affiliates differ from your understanding. I won’t say you are wrong or what you’re posting isn’t accurate, because truthfully I don’t know the real truth. I would suggest unless you are apart of Cubs management or Dario’s best friend you may not know the real truth either.
You’ve made it quite clear you don’t like the GM but Your claims seem more vindictive than factual. At least it contradicts everything I’ve heard.

 

[I Loveallsports]

The wolves certainly missed Delic & Musty, and very much out classed behind the bench.

Well to be fair, Bulldogs have far more quality player's and Mckee has built a good resume over the years

 

[billoink]

Billionk: I value your (often negative) opinion on the Wolves’s Boards. Your input gives me pause to consider the opposite side of my own beliefs. You raise some valid and interesting points of view.
I don’t ever remember posting/telling anyone that their posts are wrong. I have posted that I don’t agree. My info and understanding about our GM/Owner and affiliates differ from your understanding. I won’t say you are wrong or what you’re posting isn’t accurate, because truthfully I don’t know the real truth. I would suggest unless you are apart of Cubs management or Dario’s best friend you may not know the real truth either.
You’ve made it quite clear you don’t like the GM but Your claims seem more vindictive than factual. At least it contradicts everything I’ve heard.

Not bringing up our affiliates because of the Chartier incident, you can take that to the bank

 

[djscooter]

But hey, fake rumors are more fun. Teams have suspended players for missig meetings/practice in te past and they're not scared of saying it was the reason.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

What makes you think nothing of value was offered for Musty?

There certainly was value offered and teams actively wanted Musty.

Certain posters claiming otherwise simply look to stir shit up.

Why the Wolves ultimately decided to hang onto Musty and become buyers is anyone's guess, but it definitely wasn't due to lack of interest/offers.

 

[cub]

But hey, fake rumors are more fun. Teams have suspended players for missig meetings/practice in te past and they're not scared of saying it was the reason.

I heard it from a very good source he missed a meeting, not fake news.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

But hey, fake rumors are more fun. Teams have suspended players for missig meetings/practice in te past and they're not scared of saying it was the reason.

The Wolves publicly called out Musty and his agent when the trade request was made. I don't think they'd resort to lies now to cover up missing a meeting.

I heard it from a very good source he missed a meeting, not fake news.

I'd venture to guess Ben Leeson has good sources as well.

 

[cub]

The Wolves publicly called out Musty and his agent when the trade request was made. I don't think they'd resort to lies now to cover up missing a meeting.


I'd venture to guess Ben Leeson has good sources as well.

yes Ben is a good source, but he won't rock the boat, he is a classy gentleman, he will go by what the team tells him.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

yes Ben is a good source, but he won't rock the boat, he is a classy gentleman, he will go by what the team tells him.

Just don't understand why the club would call out Musty publicly before, but not now. Doesn't make sense.

 

[cub]

Just don't understand why the club would call out Musty publicly before, but not now. Doesn't make sense.

it's not really, they turn the page on that and want no controversy. It happen they took care of it and move on.

 

[billoink]

Billionk: I value your (often negative) opinion on the Wolves’s Boards. Your input gives me pause to consider the opposite side of my own beliefs. You raise some valid and interesting points of view.
I don’t ever remember posting/telling anyone that their posts are wrong. I have posted that I don’t agree. My info and understanding about our GM/Owner and affiliates differ from your understanding. I won’t say you are wrong or what you’re posting isn’t accurate, because truthfully I don’t know the real truth. I would suggest unless you are apart of Cubs management or Dario’s best friend you may not know the real truth either.
You’ve made it quite clear you don’t like the GM but Your claims seem more vindictive than factual. At least it contradicts everything I’ve heard.

If I can make it clear, I am what I would consider a die hard Wolves fan and will be through thick and thin. I miss very very few games home and away and my views and thoughts are my own and I respect the thoughts of others on this forum. I have witnessed teams going back to the Sherry Bassin days and players the likes of Lee Fogolin to present. I have been through the ups and downs from green to blue. Never and I mean never have I witnessed the incompetence of a GM as I have now. We are very lucky to have an owner like Dario who has done more for our team and community than we could ever hope for. The water tower to charitable support just to name a few. This team has been heading south and rebuilding has collapsed under this Gms decision making. Vindictive as you refer to or not, my views are based on his track record and the lack of respect from other owners he has brought on himself with his dealings with them past and present. Consider this post a rant if you will

 

[Jawk]

Just don't understand why the club would call out Musty publicly before, but not now. Doesn't make sense.

Playoffs 2 weeks away? The last thing you want right now, after you've added, is a controversy.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

You most definitely have more fan experience than I do with the Wolves. As stated previously I do respect your input. I have posted thoughts and beliefs in the past that always accurate. By no means do I defend every decision made by the GM or management of the Wolves. I do agree, we as fans and the City are extremely fortunate to have Dario step up as owner of the Wolves, Five, Gladiators and Cyclones.
I just have a difficult time not responding to posts that make critical claims with no support.
My understanding is the Wolves have used Cubs affiliates when needed and agreed on by both teams. My understanding was a request to use Chartier for a home game was denied by the Cubs, he then got suspended in his next start with the cubs (I think in the Soo) and then due to the suspension the Wolves had to use the Cubs back up OA goalie. The need for goalie support was due to Chucky’s injury…
If this isn’t accurate I apologize to you.