Sudbury Wolves 2023-2024 Off-Season Thread (Part 2)

[SudWolf]

So much hinges on Dvorsky this year. I imagine that he has at least a 50% chance of making the St. Louis Blues.

If Dvorsky comes back, then the Wolves are a middle of the pack team (4th, 5th or 6th place finish). If he doesn't come back then the Wolves quite possibly miss the playoffs.

For those reasons, it makes most sense for Papineau to stay in a holding pattern until that domino falls.

If Dvorsky doesn't come back then Musty gets traded for draft picks for sure.

 

[agillarda]

So much hinges on Dvorsky this year. I imagine that he has at least a 50% chance of making the St. Louis Blues.

If Dvorsky comes back, then the Wolves are a middle of the pack team (4th, 5th or 6th place finish). If he doesn't come back then the Wolves quite possibly miss the playoffs.

For those reasons, it makes most sense for Papineau to stay in a holding pattern until that domino falls.

If Dvorsky doesn't come back then Musty gets traded for draft picks for sure.

I don't see us missing the playoffs with Niagara and Peterborough. It's possible but I don't see it as likely.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

So much hinges on Dvorsky this year. I imagine that he has at least a 50% chance of making the St. Louis Blues.

If Dvorsky comes back, then the Wolves are a middle of the pack team (4th, 5th or 6th place finish). If he doesn't come back then the Wolves quite possibly miss the playoffs.

For those reasons, it makes most sense for Papineau to stay in a holding pattern until that domino falls.

If Dvorsky doesn't come back then Musty gets traded for draft picks for sure.

If Dvorsky doesn't make the Blues he can be sent to the AHL. He's not coming back.

 

[I Loveallsports]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1829656528955326572

 

[I Loveallsports]

Detailed. Thx. Keep an eye on Fortson when you see him hit the ice.

Re,: Henderson, u18 pick, 12th overall this year. His former coach thinks he'll make the team. Has signed with Listowel for next season if he doesn't play OHL

Congrats Rowan Henderson. Your coach was correct

 

[djscooter]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1829656528955326572

Some interesting choices. Guess if you were signed it was a fair assumption you were making it to this point of the cuts regardless of how you played.

 

[agillarda]

Still a few cuts to make before the season 1 - 2 forwards, 2-3 defence and 1-2 goalies.

Of that 1-2 likely from 2024 draft we have Blonda, Dean, Douchet, Wreiggitt and Smith signed.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Still a few cuts to make before the season 1 - 2 forwards, 2-3 defence and 1-2 goalies.

Of that 1-2 likely from 2024 draft we have Blonda, Dean, Douchet, Wreiggitt and Smith signed.

Wreiggitt will get playing in the Soo this season

 

[agillarda]

Wreiggitt will get playing in the Soo this season

I'd imagine unless Smith takes a job he is sent to Espanola or the Cubs. Don't want to sit Smith in the press box all year when he can play

With McCoy, Deangelis, Ewels, Blonda that leaves 2 regular slots and 1 to 2 extras for one of Bruce, O'Dell, Horgan, Jackson. I can see them keeping Jackson, Bruce and O'Dell with Horgan going to Espanola. If they keep Smith it's a toss between Bruce and O'Dell going down.

Have to think Wolves go Chucky and Gaulton in net maybe keep Finn. Not sure what happens with forwards but likely Kohan and Booth cut.

 

[I Loveallsports]

I'd imagine unless Smith takes a job he is sent to Espanola or the Cubs. Don't want to sit Smith in the press box all year when he can play

With McCoy, Deangelis, Ewels, Blonda that leaves 2 regular slots and 1 to 2 extras for one of Bruce, O'Dell, Horgan, Jackson. I can see them keeping Jackson, Bruce and O'Dell with Horgan going to Espanola. If they keep Smith it's a toss between Bruce and O'Dell going down.

Have to think Wolves go Chucky and Gaulton in net maybe keep Finn. Not sure what happens with forwards but likely Kohan and Booth cut.

Typo. I meant he will be playing in the Soo this season.

 

[SudWolf]

If Dvorsky doesn't make the Blues he can be sent to the AHL. He's not coming back.

But if they send him to the AHL, doesn't that trigger the start of his ELC???

 

[Between The Goalpost]

Forwards Henry Doucet and Rowan Henderson
Defencemen Cole Wreggitt and Brady Smith
Goaltender Finn Marshall

Were the 5 players who committed btw

 

[Isaac Nootin]

But if they send him to the AHL, doesn't that trigger the start of his ELC???

No.

 

[agillarda]

No.

Yes it would, only junior slides it.

 

[agillarda]

No.

Here from puckpedia and Dvorski is on the list

https://puckpedia.com/player/dalibor-dvorsky/slide

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Yes it would, only junior slides it.

You're wrong.

Only NHL games (10) trigger the ELC contract.

Being drafted from Europe he can play in the AHL at 19 and still have his contract slide.

Colorado did the same with Mikko Rantanen.

Scroll to the bottom of the link YOU posted.

It says "If Dvorsky plays less than 10 NHL games"

Then lists his contract as slide eligible.

 

[agillarda]

You're wrong.

Only NHL games (10) trigger the ELC contract.

Being drafted from Europe he can play in the AHL at 19 and still have his contract slide.

Colorado did the same with Mikko Rantanen.

Yes he can play in the AHL because he is from Europe. No hid contract does not slide. Leafs William Nylander came over and went right to the AHL, there was no slide. European can play in the AHL but contract does not slide.

Check out the page from Puckpedia.

https://puckpedia.com/player/dalibor-dvorsky/slide

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Yes he can play in the AHL because he is from Europe. No hid contract does not slide. Leafs William Nylander came over and went right to the AHL, there was no slide. European can play in the AHL but contract does not slide.

Check out the page from Puckpedia.

https://puckpedia.com/player/dalibor-dvorsky/slide

 

[agillarda]

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10 games NHL, for his contract to slide he needs to be returned to the Wolves with less than 10 games played and this season. If you read above it lists ONLY JUNIOR.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

10 games NHL, for his contract to slide he needs to be returned to the Wolves with less than 10 games played and this season. If you read above it lists ONLY JUNIOR.

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From Cap Friendly, who were the best before unfortunately being shut down after being bought by Washington.

 

[agillarda]

So explain why Nylander and Niemola never had their contracts slide, Nylander was drafter the year before Marner and 2 before Matthews, played 2 seasons in the Ahl and had to resign before Marner and Matthews.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Nylander played in the AHL in 14/15. His contract slid.

But played 22 games in the NHL 15/16 which started his contract. Making him an RFA in 2018, 3 years later.

 

[dirty12]

The entry level slide and how it applies to the Flames

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flamesnation.ca

There is a section here that explains slide rule for those drafted out of Europe

 

[billoink]

Not to worry,you would think his agent would never entertain the idea of him returning to a rebuilding team unless a trade was in place to a contender don’t you think?

 

[agillarda]

The entry level slide and how it applies to the Flames

<p><img src="//thenationnetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/f5/a6/...

flamesnation.ca

There is a section here that explains slide rule for those drafted out of Europe

Never seen that rule before, only ever seen junior talked about

Nylander played in the AHL in 14/15. His contract slid.

But played 22 games in the NHL 15/16 which started his contract. Making him an RFA in 2018, 3 years later.

My apologizes your right never seen AHL used to slide a contract.

Not to worry,you would think his agent would never entertain the idea of him returning to a rebuilding team unless a trade was in place to a contender don’t you think?

You would think but musty comes back then dvoski comes back too, maybe you can persuade Seattle to get the band back together and send Goyette back, just have to move one of McCoy, Deangelis or Delic.