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Drivesaitl said:
So its got to this point. I've followed the club, watched the games, gone to games since 1972. If Stu Skinner is again our #1 goalie next season I'm done. I'm not even watching. So f***ing done with this clown in net. I find watching him frustrating at this point. If the org continues to see this as the #1 guy than I don't see a lot of hope for the team.

I wonder how many of the players feel this way.
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I can't help but think they do feel this way. You mean to tell me the Oilers do not have Bob envy? How many games did players like Drai give Skinner a dirty look at the end of a bad loss? I know the team is tight and players are good friends, but Ceci a popular teammate got moved after last season and personally it must have been tough but that's professional sports...
 
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Terrible season from Skinner, which with any competent organization should signal an immediate removal for a replacement considering how close the Oilers are towards winning a cup. The idea that the coach basically had to do a franchise-wide consult about whether to play Skinner or Pickard in game 6 of the stanley cup finals when facing elimination is just astonishing, and frankly downright embarrassing.

The added pressure and stress for the other players who are playing in front of such a consistent letdown in tightly contested games must be immense. I can imagine just removing all this unreliable, game to game side-show nonsense would be an immediate boon to the confidence of the skaters on the ice going forward.
 
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Tarus said:
Terrible season from Skinner, which with any competent organization should signal an immediate removal for a replacement considering how close the Oilers are towards winning a cup. The idea that the coach basically had to do a franchise-wide consult about whether to play Skinner or Pickard in game 6 of the stanley cup finals when facing elimination is just astonishing, and frankly downright embarrassing.

The added pressure and stress for the other players who are playing in front of such a consistent letdown in tightly contested games must be immense. I can imagine just removing all this unreliable, game to game side-show nonsense would be an immediate boon to the confidence of the skaters on the ice going forward.
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You'd think that until you remember they started Pickard in game 5 after he helped them win game 4 and they responded with arguably their worst game of the season.

They were closer last year than this year, and I don't just mean games-wise. They needed better goaltending but those efforts were putrid.
 
KeithIsActuallyBad said:
You'd think that until you remember they started Pickard in game 5 after he helped them win game 4 and they responded with arguably their worst game of the season.

They were closer last year than this year, and I don't just mean games-wise. They needed better goaltending but those efforts were putrid.
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The gap got a bit wider in the 12 months since the last finals, Florida is a better team than they were last year. Oilers basically played from behind the entire series due to poor goaltending, and Florida's improved and superior depth took full advantage by rendering the Oilers increasingly ineffective as the series wore on

It's not an issue of good or bad efforts, it was pretty obvious in the final two games that the Oilers weren't in control of their own destiny.
 
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Two things can be true.
Do we need an upgrade at goalie: absolutely!
Can we get one: I don't know. There are no free agents. We won't have the cap space after we resign Bouchard. I don't see who we can trade.
As much as we talk about how much better Bobrosky was, the play in front of him prevented us from getting many good shots. Can we find someone and get lucky like the Leafs did with Solarz? Maybe but we already had Solarz and couldn't figure out what to do with him.
 
aqib said:
Two things can be true.
Do we need an upgrade at goalie: absolutely!
Can we get one: I don't know. There are no free agents. We won't have the cap space after we resign Bouchard. I don't see who we can trade.
As much as we talk about how much better Bobrosky was, the play in front of him prevented us from getting many good shots. Can we find someone and get lucky like the Leafs did with Solarz? Maybe but we already had Solarz and couldn't figure out what to do with him.
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Leafs goaltending “luck” lasts about a season. Bernier/Reimer were “stars”, Campbell was “elite” (sorry to bring that up…), Woll was the next Cujo, etc. Stolarz will be a backup again in 2 years. Oilers need to use the draft and take a swing. Semyon Frolov is a pretty interesting prospect this year….
 
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KeithIsActuallyBad said:
You really read far too much into press conferences. I never watch them because the team always says the same thing. Lots of talk prior to game 6 about how they "hadn't played their best game yet" as if they were waiting for some magic to happen that just never came.

People acting like the Panthers weren't the far, far superior team in this series and that Skinner was the only reason this team lost (never mind that he was completely absent in game 5). I get it, it's frustrating to lose to that team two years in a row and if we're being honest the series was never that close.

I don't particularly care what the Oilers do with Skinner whether they keep him or not. Was he good enough? No, he wasn't. But I challenge anyone on this forum to find someone who was consistently good throughout this series.
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You gloss over the fact if Skinner kept playing the Oilers would not have even made it out of the first round. None of the criticism towards him has any relation to this most recent finals loss. He's always been terrible. He's always been inconsistent. He's been expected to improve and he hasn't.
 
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Daishi said:
You gloss over the fact if Skinner kept playing the Oilers would not have even made it out of the first round. None of the criticism towards him has any relation to this most recent finals loss. He's always been terrible. He's always been inconsistent. He's been expected to improve and he hasn't.
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He’s getting worse.
 
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PatRoy33 said:
That third goal summed up everything there is to say/know about Skinner.
My little boy stared at the screen in disbelief. Even he knew that the game was definitely lost right there.

Everything Skinner says is just semantics. He's not the type to say 'I suck'.
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I strongly feel, with absolutely no hyperbole, that Patrick Roy at his current age, with no pads on, would have made a better play on Florida's 3rd goal and not allowed that rebound.
 
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Daishi said:
You gloss over the fact if Skinner kept playing the Oilers would not have even made it out of the first round. None of the criticism towards him has any relation to this most recent finals loss. He's always been terrible. He's always been inconsistent. He's been expected to improve and he hasn't.
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Switching to Pickard in the first round was the right move. He still played well against Vegas and Dallas.

But here's the rub. The Oilers tried the "Let's start Pickard again since Skinner was bad" trick again and it proved to not have any effect at all.

I'm not saying Skinner was good in the Finals. He wasn't, but generally his play followed the team's. They were terrible throughout most of the series and were honestly lucky to get it to six games.
 
TB12 said:
I strongly feel, with absolutely no hyperbole, that Patrick Roy at his current age, with no pads on, would have made a better play on Florida's 3rd goal and not allowed that rebound.
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I'd have to rewatch the replay, but I'm convinced the puck would have sailed above the crossbar anyway.
Quite frankly he should have been hooked after this.
Not that it matters now for you guys, unfortunately.
 
KeithIsActuallyBad said:
Switching to Pickard in the first round was the right move. He still played well against Vegas and Dallas.

But here's the rub. The Oilers tried the "Let's start Pickard again since Skinner was bad" trick again and it proved to not have any effect at all.

I'm not saying Skinner was good in the Finals. He wasn't, but generally his play followed the team's. They were terrible throughout most of the series and were honestly lucky to get it to six games.
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To be fair, Pickard had exactly one terrible game and the same number of wins as Skinner, with his only one loss being said terrible game.

Skinner lost as many games as Pickard won and had multiple games on par with, or worse than Pickard's worst.
 
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Gregor sounds pretty confident that Skinner will be back…lol

And that they’ll add a cheap tandem and demote Pickard
 
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