Value of: Stoner or Bieksa to a team with cap (CAR, NJD, FLA)

[Pinkfloyd]

Might be able to move Stoner, but that Bieksa deal is brutal with the NMC.

Not only is he a dump, but you would also be required to protect him as well. Just awful.

I don't think Anaheim will be able to move Bieksa but I firmly believe he will get bought out next off-season before the expansion draft if it comes down to that.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It's assuming that someone that isn't already on the roster is going to be replacing him when that simply isn't true. They're all on the roster right now until the final cuts are made. There will be no off-setting because they're already there on the big roster for now.

Well, if you're gonna count everybody left in camp sure. But the cap isn't based on everybody in camp. So that's a false starting point.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Might have to "give away" Fowler to a willing team, without taking any money back.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Well, if you're gonna count everybody left in camp sure. But the cap isn't based on everybody in camp. So that's a false starting point.

Uh, yeah it is. The cap is just higher during the off-season.

 

[MadDevil]

Might be able to move Stoner, but that Bieksa deal is brutal with the NMC.

Not only is he a dump, but you would also be required to protect him as well. Just awful.

Doesn't that get wiped out if he waives it to get traded though?

 

[McDonald19]

Then good luck signing Lindholm/Rakell.

Yes, because the only way to sign them is to give Fowler away for free.

 

[McDonald19]

My 2 cents is a prospect like Montour and a 3rd may be enough to get a team to bite on taking a guy like Stoner.

Montour is likely unavailable in a cap-dump trade.

 

[MessierII]

Bieksa would actually be a good fit in Jersey. He could take some tough minutes to shelter Seversson a little bit.

 

[go4hockey]

So Anaheim has obvious salary problems, what would it take for a team with cash to take on Stoner's 2 year at 3,25M or Bieksa's 2 years at 4M. (Note: Bieksa needs to waive his NMC I believe but he could waive for a playoff team like Florida)

Bernier could also be a trading option since he makes 4,15M for 1 year.

Moving bad contract is costly these days so it will be pricey to move either of those defensemen. That Bernier deal has the Ducks GM looking like a clueless monkey, why would you take that cap hit for a backup when your already tight with the cap.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Doesn't that get wiped out if he waives it to get traded though?

Nope.

 

[go4hockey]

Might have to "give away" Fowler to a willing team, without taking any money back.

Give away? Yea not likely. He is a good player and if he is moved without $$$ coming back it will be high picks and or good prospects. So no need to "give away".

 

[Smitty426]

Moving bad contract is costly these days so it will be pricey to move either of those defensemen. That Bernier deal has the Ducks GM looking like a clueless monkey, why would you take that cap hit for a backup when your already tight with the cap.

I mention Bernier contract yesterday and was rightly corrected that Tor is on the hook for half, so not as bad

 

[Sojourn]

Does Anaheim even need to clear more space once they send Stoner down to the AHL?

We can only speculate. It's a little under one million, if he clears, but every little bit can help. Without knowing Murray's plans, or what he expects to sign Rakell and Lindholm for, I don't have a clue. I suspect it's pretty close already, if we're looking just at cap. We might be able to wiggle under just by moving some small change, like this.

It the team isn't spending to the cap, however, that throws a wrench into the gears. Especially when we don't know what that internal cap would be, if it exists this season.

 

[Seanaconda]

We can only speculate. It's a little under one million, if he clears, but every little bit can help. Without knowing Murray's plans, or what he expects to sign Rakell and Lindholm for, I don't have a clue. I suspect it's pretty close already, if we're looking just at cap. We might be able to wiggle under just by moving some small change, like this.

It the team isn't spending to the cap, however, that throws a wrench into the gears. Especially when we don't know what that internal cap would be, if it exists this season.

Especially cuz they still pay stoner when he's sent down they just get 950 cap relief so if they are on a real money budget it's no help.

They could back load the contracts as much as they can tho to keep the real money budget down this year tho.

 

[Sojourn]

Especially cuz they still pay stoner when he's sent down they just get 950 cap relief so if they are on a real money budget it's no help.

They could back load the contracts as much as they can tho to keep the real money budget down this year tho.

There are options, but people here smell blood in the water, and they think they can just go after the choice pieces of meat.

Anaheim is vulnerable, but they aren't that vulnerable. The idea that Anaheim would move a top prospect, or Fowler for free is just wishful thinking on their part.

 

[lindholmie]

Might have to "give away" Fowler to a willing team, without taking any money back.

LMAOO just give him away???

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Stoner + Petterson for some Nachos and a six pack

 

[Dabeast]

no thanks

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

no thanks

OK. Name a team that wants to give up much for a guy who
a. Has two years left then a UFA. b. come expansion if you give traded much for him you would have to protect him, and he only has a year left in his contract. c. a team with cap space or budget this late in preseason. d. trades without giving money back to the Ducks

OK don't trade him....Lindholm or Rakell isn't signed.
People criticizing the Bieska contract, about that Kesler contract, especially in a few years.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Stoner
Montour
Pettersson

For

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Nosek

 

[Dabeast]

OK. Name a team that wants to give up much for a guy who
a. Has two years left then a UFA. b. come expansion if you give traded much for him you would have to protect him, and he only has a year left in his contract. c. a team with cap space or budget this late in preseason. d. trades without giving money back to the Ducks

OK don't trade him....Lindholm or Rakell isn't signed.
People criticizing the Bieska contract, about that Kesler contract, especially in a few years.

This seems entirely irrelevant to my post about how I don't want the Panthers to take on Bieksa/Stoner

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

As a Hurricanes fan, I would be very interested in Fowler if you guys are open to moving him.

 

[Kalv]

Stoner
Montour
Pettersson

For

Tatar
Nosek

Let`s do it

 

[Kalv]

As a Hurricanes fan, I would be very interested in Fowler if you guys are open to moving him.

We will be at some point, not sure if right away though. Young cost controlled F`s and picks would interest us.

 

[Juggernaut27]

This seems entirely irrelevant to my post about how I don't want the Panthers to take on Bieksa/Stoner

But if we could interest you in a slightly used Kindl or late bloomer Dylan Olsen, that would be great...