ALLEN IS NOTHING LIKE BINNINGTON.
Allen is fantastic as a career backup but letting him be your starter is only going to lead to heartache.
Also, Allen has been a playoff choker since his minor league days, the hell are you going on about?
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ALLEN IS NOTHING LIKE BINNINGTON.
Allen is fantastic as a career backup but letting him be your starter is only going to lead to heartache.
Also, Allen has been a playoff choker since his minor league days, the hell are you going on about?
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What? Blues fans have been wanting Allen replaced for years and never liked the contract he signed. Bishop ran out of team control during the season when Halak and Elliott were breaking records, hard to fault the team for that decision.
At the end of the day, our defense without Parayko and replacing Petro with Krug is garbage defensively. We've lost a ton of forwards, so their impact in the defensive end has been diminished too. Binnington plays consistent, he just can't help when the defense is garbage in front of him because of injuries.
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Bishop was going to be lost in free agency as his contract was up.
It was either move one of Elliott/Halak or Bishop. Mind you, Halak was just in his second season in St. Louis and Elliott was playing incredible on a cheap contract.
Allen never factored into the equation and Bishop was traded as a result of there being no room.
The issue with management and Allen is they kept forcing him into being something that he wasn’t- a workhorse goalie. He’s too inconsistent to be anything more than a tandem goalie.
As a result, Elliott was traded because he was(understandably) pissed about being jerked around, including when Miller was playing like absolute garbage(as well as the team) in 2014 and he wasn’t given a chance.
There’s plenty to criticize Armstrong about regarding goalies, but trading Bishop isn’t one of them.
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I disagree...
There are a lot of quality goaltenders hitting UFA this summer, so there's no need to overpay for one
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Agreed! People shouldn't be free to voice their opinion on a hockey message board... they must be silenced!
No people shouldn't use 14 pages to spew the same crap and sheet all over a player. But hey if that's what you got from my post then it truly shows your intelligence
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No one is doing that.
Just that he has basically been judged by Blues fans based off his reputation of a single prior season. This year, Jake Allen has been the better goaltender.
And blues fans have told you that it won't last. It never has. Tgis thread is just dumb.
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So you agree? That his one good season was just that and he should gradually fall back to being a marginal NHL goalie?
Remember, he was ECHL material before that.
No I do not agree he had two great seasons and a great playoff. As for Allen he is head case. He can be great and suck at the same time. Jake Allen's fall created the rise of binnington. But hey you seem to know more about my team then I do....lol
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It's the difference between being rational and making rationalizations.
Binnington was fine last night. Not like he had a chance on those goals. He’s a good goalie. When you move Pietrangelo and replace him with Krug and then Parayko goes down for a long period of time, your defence is probably the worst in the league.
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After the Wild’s experience with Dubnyk and now Talbot, I’ve really started to believe that any long-term contract that pays a goalie 6%+ of the cap is usually a terrible move. Seems like FA is always filled with guys that can come in and play at a similar level for a heavily discounted rate. Goalies never seem to play at a consistently high level, except for a few rare ones.
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The difference is that you're a lot less likely to win a Cup with a rotating cast of bargain bin signings. Even if you get some subpar seasons in there, it's still better to bank on the more proven guy unless you're a developing team or just want to be stuck in early round exit limbo.
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Thats true and I can definitely see the merit in that line of thinking. Having a consistent goaltender in the playoffs that has a proven track record can be invaluable. However, it just feels like the “Top 10” goalies in the league changes significantly on a season-to-season basis. I’m not sure why there’s so much variance in their performances, but I guess it just comes down to them being an individual player whose highs and lows are much more noticeable.
With how important it is to manage cap, it feels like shorter-term goalie deals are a better way to build the most effective team.
He made 50 saves on 51 shots. As long as the the dmen don't leave him hanging he is and above average goalie.
Name a goaltender who -hasn't- beaten Jake Allen out of his job in St. Louis?
Fact: They all did.
We won the Cup by putting him in the back seat and rolling with Binnington, that's how good Jake Allen is as a starter. He's not. He chokes, he has mental toughness issues and is only good for a stretch at a time or until something gets him. Once it gets in his head, you're screwed.
We know Jake Allen's background just a -little- bit better than the Habs. It's nice to see him do well, but you'll be very happy that you got Carey Price come playoff time. If you're riding Allen into the playoffs, prepare for heartache. It's not just trash talk, it's not just a fact, it's absolute truth.
6x6 for Jordan Biddington seems like good value for St. Louis. A very fair contract.
What I most like about Binnington is that he rarely gives up "embarrassing goals." With Allen, it literally seemed like every night he gave up AT LEAST one goal that should have been a fireable offense. Like... the kinda goal that automatically gets you kicked out of the NHL for good, given a competency test and investigated for match fixing, cause it's one or the other.
No one in the history of this game will have ever been scored on more, while not even being remotely near the goal crease, as Jake Allen has. Lost dog routine. Unfortunately, he's the dog and he has no idea where his home is, and even when he's home... no one is home... Everything about Binnington is the anti Jake Allen, which means he's freaking awesome. Everything. Just awesome.
Jake Allen glares at teammates for his own mistakes; Binnington goes after the other team for fun. The guy is truly karma for having to put up with Allen for all these years. Anyone hating on Binnington deserves Allen in their life.
No one in the history of this game will have ever been scored on more, while not even being remotely near the goal crease, as Jake Allen has. Lost dog routine. Unfortunately, he's the dog and he has no idea where his home is, and even when he's home... no one is home... Everything about Binnington is the anti Jake Allen, which means he's freaking awesome. Everything. Just awesome.
Jake Allen glares at teammates for his own mistakes; Binnington goes after the other team for fun. The guy is truly karma for having to put up with Allen for all these years. Anyone hating on Binnington deserves Allen in their life.
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3.27 GAA and a .901 SV% in 23 games this season
Both Husso and Lindgren have posted Vezina-worthy stats during their starts this season, so it's tough to blame the play of the team for Binnington's poor performance
He seems to be trending towards a Matt Murray-esque career trajectory...
If I'm the Blues' GM, I'm calling Arizona and Buffalo to see if there's any interest, and if there is, I'm unloading that contract ASAP
Both Husso and Lindgren have posted Vezina-worthy stats during their starts this season, so it's tough to blame the play of the team for Binnington's poor performance
He seems to be trending towards a Matt Murray-esque career trajectory...
If I'm the Blues' GM, I'm calling Arizona and Buffalo to see if there's any interest, and if there is, I'm unloading that contract ASAP
