Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Jordan Binnington signs extension with the Blues (6 years, $6M AAV)

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If Jones brought home a cup and was signed to this contract and then played the way he has it would still be a shit contract. Should you have resigned Patrick Maroon for 6 million a year because he "brought you a cup"? Should the capitals have resigned braden holtby to a bloated contract this offseason because he won them a cup?

Pat Maroon has TWO CUPS now AND an NTC.

Baaack to Baaack
 

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Blues won their 1st cup in team history on the back of great goaltending by Binny and people don’t like 6x6? He was really good last year prior to the lockdown and really good this year so far with an injury depleted Blues team. I love the deal.
 

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Nah, it was best for Pat. He won't get 6x6 but he did get 2x Cup Ring. I think Pat got the better deal on that one. #hatersgottahate

So the Blues cheated Binnington by not signing him to a million a year and using the savings to fill out their roster to get more cups? Not a very nice move by the organization
 

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So the Blues cheated Binnington by not signing him to a million a year and using the savings to fill out their roster to get more cups? Not a very nice move by the organization

Those bastards! lol

If you can fill out a given roster with 5m a year and win the Cup you should be a GM lol.
 

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I prob should tbqh, maybe the Blues would have more than one cup to show for 40 something years lol

One Cup is more than some other teams have got and more than what we had, so I'm happy with that. Won our first Cup with the first rookie goaltender to win all 16 playoff games and that netminder is here to stay. This story's long from over and it's okay, we tend to get downplayed a lot but we'll be okay.

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I prob should tbqh, maybe the Blues would have more than one cup to show for 40 something years lol

Have you thought about being a GM of Washington? Looks like they need just as much help as st Louis with only 1 cup ring. Less finals appearances though so maybe you can help with that as well.
 

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This... is terrible. Paying an average at best goalie for six years when the team's defensive system is largely responsible for their success is shortsighted at best.

Kind of embarrassing for the bruins to get beat by an average at best goalie in the finals, wasn't it? If an average at best goalie can win 16 playoff games imagine what a good goalie can do. Do ya think he can win 20 playoff games?

The difference between Martin Jones and Binnington is that one guy actually got it done while the other didn't. So no point comparing the two.

Also, if Binnington was repeating his 2019 performance he'd be the best goalie in the league and worth a lot more than $6 million. Few goalies on the league are capable of playing that well for an extended time.

Like most contracts, of course there's a risk but I sense that many people just don't like Binnington and that's why they're criticizing the deal.
 
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Wierd time to re-sign him to that deal. Not coming off a strong season or playoff run and is not having a good year either. It's not the worst contract but i don't love it. This very much could end up another Martin Jones type contract.
 
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There are so many goaltenders hitting UFA this summer, I don't think teams will have to overpay...

And I obviously don't have much confidence in Binnington, hence why I think the contract was a mistake


Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions. From a Blues fan's perspective I wouldn't care if it was 9 million per year. The Blues won the Cup. My guess is that most other team's fans don't realize how huge the Blues curse was. It's been what 2 1/2 years and I still find it hard to believe it happened. The funny part is people saying that Binnington has gotten worse since the Cup. Like repeating winning the Cup happens all the time or something haha

The fact is Binnington has been a solid goalie since becoming a Blue. He's not the best goalie in the league but he's far from the worst. He doesn't typically let in fluke or soft goals like every goalie the Blues have had over the last 25 years. The Blues won the Cup. Do I want them to have continued success? Yes. Realistically though everything now is gravy. We had the craziest parade and Hull went Blues haha

In 50 years from now people will talk about the parade, the Cup, the moments, the season, the ride, the celebration, and Binnington will be a big part of that story. People won't say "yeah but omg Army signed Binnington to a 6 year contract for 6 million per year" haha
 
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Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions. From a Blues fan's perspective I wouldn't care if it was 9 million per year. The Blues won the Cup. My guess is that most other team's fans don't realize how huge the Blues curse was. It's been what 2 1/2 years and I still find it hard to believe it happened. The funny part is people saying that Binnington has gotten worse since the Cup. Like repeating winning the Cup happens all the time or something haha

The fact is Binnington has been a solid goalie since becoming a Blue. He's not the best goalie in the league but he's far from the worst. He doesn't typically let in fluke or soft goals like every goalie the Blues have had over the last 25 years. The Blues won the Cup. Do I want them to have continued success? Yes. Realistically though everything now is gravy. We had the craziest parade and Hull went Blues haha

In 50 years from now people will talk about the parade, the Cup, the moments, the season, the ride, the celebration, and Binnington will be a big part of that story. People won't say "yeah but omg Army signed Binnington to a 6 year contract for 6 million per year" haha
Cam Ward was great in the playoffs for Carolina. He had a great year in a few more, but really his legacy is they kept signing him and long term kept him wheb he was average or bad for years. It's deals like that which hamper success longterm
 
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Wierd time to re-sign him to that deal. Not coming off a strong season or playoff run and is not having a good year either. It's not the worst contract but i don't love it. This very much could end up another Martin Jones type contract.

He’s an unrestricted free-agent after his current contract is up.

If he hit FA, he’d be super overpaid.
 

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Seems like a deal they might regret 3-4 years down the road.

Binnington could get back to his 19 performance level (so far no evidence of that this season).

But he is equally likely to be a backup level goalie in 2 years, and out of the league in 3 years.

He’s been playing at a 2019 level for almost 2 seasons now.

And I’m not talking about his crazy hot streak in 2019 either. By all measures, he’s been basically the same goalie since March or April 2019(including the playoffs).

He’s had stretches where he’s played poorly(see the series against Vancouver), but he’s been super consistent.

I don’t expect him to play out of his mind like he did in January and February 2019 for an entire season.

I guess but that doesn't mean its a good contract the Blues gave him .

His contract is what a starting goalie gets paid today.

It’s not an albatross. Sure, last 2-3 years he may not be a starter, but he could still be a capable backup. I expect him to be starting caliber for the majority of it.

Binnington’s not even 30 yet either.
 
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He’s been playing at a 2019 level for almost 2 seasons now.

And I’m not talking about his crazy hot streak in 2019 either. By all measures, he’s been basically the same goalie since March or April 2019(including the playoffs).

He’s had stretches where he’s played poorly(see the series against Vancouver), but he’s been super consistent.

I don’t expect him to play out of his mind like he did in January and February 2019 for an entire season.

In the italicized part: so you are saying that he's the same goalie now as he was without his good games/stretches. Sure, I think everyone can agree on that, he seems to be your average goalie in the league, definitely not worth the new contract several years down the road.

In the bolded part: so basically you are contradicting yourself, IN THE SAME SENTENCE!!!
 

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In the italicized part: so you are saying that he's the same goalie now as he was without his good games/stretches. Sure, I think everyone can agree on that, he seems to be your average goalie in the league, definitely not worth the new contract several years down the road.

In the bolded part: so basically you are contradicting yourself, IN THE SAME SENTENCE!!!
I am saying he is not a robot who is perfect all 82 games of the season.

What I am saying is that by my unscientific estimation he probably gives you an average to above average performance 80% of the time.

He’s the anti-Allen, who was/is maddeningly streaky when pressed into a starting role instead of tandem.

Also, I don’t think everyone says he’s the same guy as he was after the hot streak. There are some posts where I’ve seen some people act as if he’s fallen off some sort of cliff, when he hasn’t.
 

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Allen was bad, almost always apart from hot streaks. The only year he was consistently good, he was still way worse than what Elliot brought. He was anointed always the goalie of the future and good option and it was foolish.

But it seems those standards are why Blues fans are okay with this. Because they were good with a goalie who was always bad except when a backup. For years but standards of goalies should be higher like for Bishop who they has but tossed to keep lesser talents.
 

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Allen was bad, almost always apart from hot streaks. The only year he was consistently good, he was still way worse than what Elliot brought. He was anointed always the goalie of the future and good option and it was foolish.

But it seems those standards are why Blues fans are okay with this. Because they were good with a goalie who was always bad except when a backup. For years but standards of goalies should be higher like for Bishop who they has but tossed to keep lesser talents.

With Bishop, the issue was timing. Halak and Elliott won the Jennings and were a two-headed goalie monster and Bishop was Sol. The only way letting Bishop go can be looked at as bad is in hindsight.

And to be fair, like Halak and Elliott, Bishop is still trying to win a Cup. Unlike them, Binnington won it.

So... who’s better, then?
 

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With Bishop, the issue was timing. Halak and Elliott won the Jennings and were a two-headed goalie monster and Bishop was Sol. The only way letting Bishop go can be looked at as bad is in hindsight.
No because it was considered silly at the time and fans saying so were defending Allen as the future. Which still at the time was looking hopeful and not helpful.

Stumbling into Bennington won and worked wonders. But you shouldn't be okay keeping the same range of issue that Allen was like.
 

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