Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

[T REX]

they are top 2 in the league now.

Back 2 back finals? Panthers and Tampa were way better than the Oilers.

You might want to temper expectations a bit.

Wow. Hubris without hardware

 

[Three On Zero]

Back 2 back finals? Panthers and Tampa were way better than the Oilers.

You might want to temper expectations a bit.

Wow. Hubris without hardware

These offer sheets make St Louis a top 2 team in the league now.

 

[Soundwave]

Back 2 back finals? Panthers and Tampa were way better than the Oilers.

You might want to temper expectations a bit.

Wow. Hubris without hardware

That's not hubris, they're a Cup favorite. Is what it is. They are the Vegas betting odds favorite and that's fairly unbiased as you're going to get, gambling bookies don't give a f*** about dumb sports allegiances, they bet odds on who they legitimately think has the best odds for m-o-n-e-y.

They had the best record in the league from mid-November onwards.

They were in game 7 of a Cup Final.

They have the best player in the world, maybe the best player the sport has seen in 30+ years.

Is what it is. In any other sport it'd be about the same thing if you had a comparable NFL or NBA or MLB team, they'd also likely be the betting odds favorite for the following season. Florida was a top 2-3 team going into last season by most people and they got f***ing smoked in a laugher of a Finals and were never the no.1 team in the regular season for any stretch that year.

 

[Fraser28]

I’m no Oilers fan at all, but even I can admit that they’re a top contender. I feel like anyone who denies that is smoking some serious copium.

 

[T REX]

I’m no Oilers fan at all, but even I can admit that they’re a top contender. I feel like anyone who denies that is smoking some serious copium.

contender? sure. top 2? buwhahaha

Good luck. I'm sure good luck charm stan will be very helpful.

I'll sell you some copium next playoffs.

HUBRIS without any hardware. Congrats to FL

 

[theVladiator]

That's not hubris, they're a Cup favorite. Is what it is. They are the Vegas betting odds favorite and that's fairly unbiased as you're going to get, gambling bookies don't give a f*** about dumb sports allegiances, they bet odds on who they legitimately think has the best odds for m-o-n-e-y.

They had the best record in the league from mid-November onwards.

They were in game 7 of a Cup Final.

They have the best player in the world, maybe the best player the sport has seen in 30+ years.

Is what it is. In any other sport it'd be about the same thing if you had a comparable NFL or NBA or MLB team, they'd also likely be the betting odds favorite for the following season. Florida was a top 2-3 team going into last season by most people and they got f***ing smoked in a laugher of a Finals and were never the no.1 team in the regular season for any stretch that year.

About those Vegas odds. While EDM is indeed the favorite, currently their odds of winning the Cup are about 1 in 8. That translates into roughly 50/50 chance of making it to the conference finals.

 

[Soundwave]

About those Vegas odds. While EDM is indeed the favorite, currently their odds of winning the Cup are about 1 in 8. That translates into roughly 50/50 chance of making it to the conference finals.

I'm just saying when you are a top team, you get given top odds, that's just how it goes.

Florida made the Finals last year and got absolutely destroyed, and most people still considered them a top 2-3 team because of that. Why would anyone assume things change in a year.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I'm just saying when you are a top team, you get given top odds, that's just how it goes.

Florida made the Finals last year and got absolutely destroyed, and most people still considered them a top 2-3 team because of that. Why would anyone assume things change in a year.

Destroyed by whom?

 

[Three On Zero]

About those Vegas odds. While EDM is indeed the favorite, currently their odds of winning the Cup are about 1 in 8. That translates into roughly 50/50 chance of making it to the conference finals.

Seems to forget Florida has also won the President’s Trophy and their division in the last 3 years, that’s why they are considered a top team.

Also that odds are heavily based on how people are betting.

 

[Soundwave]

Destroyed by whom?

Vegas. Florida barely was able to win even 1 game and got blown out and embarrassed entirely in the series clinching 5th game. That has to be one of the most noncompetitive Finals ever, how often is a Cup Finals clinching game a 9-3 blow out.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Vegas. Florida barely was able to win even 1 game and got blown out and embarrassed entirely in the series clinching 5th game. That has to be one of the most noncompetitive Finals ever, how often is a Cup Finals clinching game a 9-3 blow out.

Yet they won the next year

 

[Soundwave]

Yet they won the next year

I didn't say anything to the contrary. My point was is they were going into this last season considered a top 1-3 team even though they were an 8th seed the year prior and got absolutely demolished in the Cup Final.

The point is they did make the Cup Final and as a result people moved them up their rankings to near the top.

That's how those things work, you get put into a different if you make a Final and especially if you were already a decent team before and it wasn't just a Cinderella type situation.

 

[Sparkleton]

contender? sure. top 2? buwhahaha

Good luck. I'm sure good luck charm stan will be very helpful.

I'll sell you some copium next playoffs.

HUBRIS without any hardware. Congrats to FL

Are you replying to the right post? This guy Fraser28 literally said they are not an Oiler’s fan and said nothing about top 2 unless it is buried in the thread.

You are attacking a strawman.

 

[Robtom18]

I agree. But I think pride is going to come into play here and they match Holloway. Losing two RFA’s when you’ve just taken over as GM is beyond embarrassing. They won’t let that happen.
Overpaying Holloway and then having to trade another player when Kane is healthy is likely going to be the end result.

Well pride is the down fall of thebso called righteous

 

[HuGort]

Bruins wont let sway go .

I'd like to see it happen though. Lol

 

[vipera1960]

That's not hubris, they're a Cup favorite. Is what it is. They are the Vegas betting odds favorite and that's fairly unbiased as you're going to get, gambling bookies don't give a f*** about dumb sports allegiances, they bet odds on who they legitimately think has the best odds for m-o-n-e-y.

They had the best record in the league from mid-November onwards.

They were in game 7 of a Cup Final.

They have the best player in the world, maybe the best player the sport has seen in 30+ years.

Is what it is. In any other sport it'd be about the same thing if you had a comparable NFL or NBA or MLB team, they'd also likely be the betting odds favorite for the following season. Florida was a top 2-3 team going into last season by most people and they got f***ing smoked in a laugher of a Finals and were never the no.1 team in the regular season for any stretch that year.

Hate to break it to you, but they absolutely do care about allegiances. When sports bookies set lines, the objective is to make the money wagered equal. That way no matter who wins the house makes money on the vig.

 

[Djp]

Saving the cap room and adding a 2nd and a 3rd makes the most sense given who they have to re- sign in the next 2 years.

If they match they need to LTIR kane and trade Kulak or Ceci

For next summer...
.assume cap goes up $4M
Jeff Skinner isnt resigned freeing up $3M

They could resign Drai and Bouchard. Those are the 2 main players. They could trade Drai as well with less cap coming back

 

[Reality Czech]

Edmontons wasn’t a top 3 team in the league though

Didn't take long for the success to go to your heads eh?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Hate to break it to you, but they absolutely do care about allegiances. When sports bookies set lines, the objective is to make the money wagered equal. That way no matter who wins the house makes money on the vig.

Usually the original line is the most accurate. Then the line shifts based on evening out the money.

 

[villacco]

If they match they need to LTIR kane and trade Kulak or Ceci

For next summer...
.assume cap goes up $4M
Jeff Skinner isnt resigned freeing up $3M

They could resign Drai and Bouchard. Those are the 2 main players. They could trade Drai as well with less cap coming back

7 million wont cut it, to re-sign both. Not even close. At least 10 million extra in total. And you need a replacement for Jeff Skinner.

 

[Funk21]

Saving the cap room and adding a 2nd and a 3rd makes the most sense given who they have to re- sign in the next 2 years.

While I don’t disagree with your statement if these kids are to become integral parts of the Oilers team one has to wonder if loosing said players doesn’t bring the question to Drai and McDavid’s decision making process regarding extending.

A second and third does nothing to making the Oilers a better team in the next 2/3 years IMO. Could they could magically hit on a player? Sure but they are more likely need 2/3 years worth of development if they ever become anything while. Both Broberg and Halloway were expected to play prominent roles this upcoming year and for the foreseeable future.

My decision would be to match and move Kulak and dump Kane on to LTIR all season until you can move him next offseason. Unfortunately both players will likely look again for another pay increase in two years time if they continue to develop which again messes with your cap structure.

 

[Akrapovince]

Should have left the Skinner/Arvidsson money to fill the glaring hole at 2RD and kept Holloway in the top six.

Oilers got a bit greedy. That team was looking scary with Holloway/Broberg (or 3-4m RD).

 

[Robtom18]

If they match they need to LTIR kane and trade Kulak or Ceci

For next summer...
.assume cap goes up $4M
Jeff Skinner isnt resigned freeing up $3M

They could resign Drai and Bouchard. Those are the 2 main players. They could trade Drai as well with less cap coming back

So it was reported that holloway will stay and broberg is gone. Per friedman

Should have left the Skinner/Arvidsson money to fill the glaring hole at 2RD and kept Holloway in the top six.

Oilers got a bit greedy. That team was looking scary with Holloway/Broberg (or 3-4m RD).

Yes they should have

While I don’t disagree with your statement if these kids are to become integral parts of the Oilers team one has to wonder if loosing said players doesn’t bring the question to Drai and McDavid’s decision making process regarding extending.

A second and third does nothing to making the Oilers a better team in the next 2/3 years IMO. Could they could magically hit on a player? Sure but they are more likely need 2/3 years worth of development if they ever become anything while. Both Broberg and Halloway were expected to play prominent roles this upcoming year and for the foreseeable future.

My decision would be to match and move Kulak and dump Kane on to LTIR all season until you can move him next offseason. Unfortunately both players will likely look again for another pay increase in two years time if they continue to develop which again messes with your cap structure.

Kyrou was a second, neigbors was a late round pick and was projected at 2nd round. So many good picks come in 2md round.

 

[Robtom18]

He could still be a player, but sure it could certainly be a system's thing.

The Oilers D shut down basically all 4 playoff opponents even Florida the longer each series went on, Florida for example was averaging 2 goals/game the final 4 games of that series, Vancouver was even below that, LA was below 2 the last 3 games of their 5 game series, Dallas was right at averaging only 2 goals per game in the final 3 games of their series. And Broberg didn't play in half the playoffs.

Now either all the Oilers D got magically that much better and were also some how a top 6-7 defensive team in the regular season from November 12 onwards coincidentally ...

Or Knoblaugh/Coffey's system was doing some serious, serious work. Because it's not like Stuart Skinner is a Vezina candidate, so that can't be it.

Florida is much the same too, they don't have some all world D corps, Ekblad was honestly pretty poor in the Finals, it's Maurice's system that overall gets results. They'll be good again next year even though they lost some big minute guys on their back end, because they'll just keep cycling new guys into that same system.

There was no shut down they were high scoring games lol. Bkues shut teams down to a goal and would put up 3 or 4. If edm didnt have a dynamic offense they wouldnt have survived

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Should have left the Skinner/Arvidsson money to fill the glaring hole at 2RD and kept Holloway in the top six.

Oilers got a bit greedy. That team was looking scary with Holloway/Broberg (or 3-4m RD).

Eh, it’s more fun if they don’t. I’ve been playing too much nhl ‘23, and from my rookie GM experience I’d say you watch em score 20 goals, then flip ‘em at the deadline for the needed parts. Wheelin and dealin and whatnot.