Confirmed with Link: Stastny (50% ret.) for Foley, 2018 1st, cond. 2020 4th

[hurricanedave]

Wow, love this pick up. Stastny is just one of those players that makes anyone who plays him so much better. So smart, awesome passes, does everything so well. Not really worried about his PP production as the Blues' PP has been pretty garbage this season. I am just amazed the Jets got him, so much centre depth, this rocks!

 

[Aavco Cup]

No concrete source, but apparently Wheeler offered to give Stastny #26 since it was his father's number. Stastny's going to wear #25 instead.

He said that today, but it was totally in jest.

"I offered it....it would be a lot of pressure...but......I'm just kidding. I threw that in there as a joke but if he wants it, he can gave it"

Starts aprx 6:20 in

 

[GNP]

Is it though? I’ve often wondered this. Almost every team in the league wins about 50% of its face offs. First to 20th is something like a 3% difference. From first to worst is around 4 face offs wins a game. Out of 60 face offs.

I get needing to win the important draws, but it seems like a lot of attention is given to face off percentages when the differences are statistically insignificant.

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At first thought, a lot of people may agree with you-- but in today's very competitive NHL- winning 3-5 % more face offs, just may win you 3-4 more games per year ?? Be interesting to see a study on those stats.

 

[Whileee]

Jets have arguably the best top-9 in the league, and probably the best 4th line with Copp-Lowry-Armia. With Petan, Tanev, Hendricks, Dano, Matthias and Lemieux on deck, they have decent options to slot into any of the lines.

As I noted earlier, I wonder a bit if Maurice ends up putting Perreault with Stastny and Laine, or Roslovic with Stastny and Ehlers. The one potential deficit of Stastny with Ehlers and Laine is that they lack a player that is a fast and effective forechecker for puck retrieval. Perreault and Roslovic are both very effective in that role.

 

[dratbunnies]

I gotta say listening to the Chevy interview it seemed like him and the STL GM had a pretty solid working relationship. It seemed like they had discussed this theoretically earlier, then when Doug Armstrong decided to sell he picked up and specifically called Chevy. It also sounded like they were both very much on the same page of respecting Stastny and his family. Makes me very proud and gives me respect for the blues organization.

Also makes me really hope that this deal works out marvelously for both sides. Here is hoping Stastny is a big part of us going far, and that Foley really makes us regret this in a few years!

Also, the timing definitely confused me. From the interview it sounded like they worked out all the trade details before they told Stastny, then let him sleep on it. Which would have meant they had things settled yesterday. But in that case it doesn't seem likely that they were that hard in on Brassard or Plekanec. I'm thinking that may have just been a media thing...

 

[GNP]

Jets have arguably the best top-9 in the league, and probably the best 4th line with Copp-Lowry-Armia. With Petan, Tanev, Hendricks, Dano, Matthias and Lemieux on deck, they have decent options to slot into any of the lines.

As I noted earlier, I wonder a bit if Maurice ends up putting Perreault with Stastny and Laine, or Roslovic with Stastny and Ehlers. The one potential deficit of Stastny with Ehlers and Laine is that they lack a player that is a fast and effective forechecker for puck retrieval. Perreault and Roslovic are both very effective in that role.

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Very good point you bring up Whileee--as I've read that Stastny is not that fast a skater- I hope he can keep up with Ehlers ???

 

[Ducky10]

So stand pat Chevy makes a splash and people are worried about getting wet? They just made themselves better to make a deeper push into the playoffs but we're worried about the price it takes to play? The opportunity to do something this year is worth it, Stastny leaving doesn't change that. The experience it could buy for the Jets is well worth it regardless, lots of pieces left to fill whatever perceived void it might leave. Welcome to contending.

Damned if you do, damned if don't with some I guess

 

[Scheifele55]

He'll use 28, duh.

Duh? He is using #25 which was reported after I had asked. What is the correlation between Stastny and #28 anyways?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Duh? He is using #25 which was reported after I had asked. What is the correlation between Stastny and #28 anyways?

Id imagine cuz he's likely going to play with 27 and 29

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

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Very good point you bring up Whileee--as I've read that Stastny is not that fast a skater- I hope he can keep up with Ehlers ???

If Ehlers-Stastny-Laine doesn’t work because of speed and forechecking or lack there of I’m sure Scheifele could swap with Stastny, Ehlers-Scheifele-Laine doesn’t sound that bad, does it? As of late I think Ehlers and Laine deserve to play with Scheifele with they’re recent performances.

Don’t be surprised if we get our old lines back with some new spices from the rookies and Stastny..

 

[10Ducky10]

So stand pat Chevy makes a splash and people are worried about getting wet? They just made themselves better to make a deeper push into the playoffs but we're worried about the price it takes to play? The opportunity to do something this year is worth it, Statsny leaving doesn't change that. The experience it could buy for the Jets is well worth it regardless, lots of pieces left to fill whatever perceived void it might leave. Welcome to contending.

Damned if you do, damned if don't with some I guess

People just like to complain I guess...we have the chance in front of us so go for it for God's sake!
I consider TB too be one of the top teams in the league for the past few years and they missed the playoffs last year! Go for it!
Too bad the cap doesn't go up to 85m so we could re-sign Stastny for another 3 or 4 years. It'd probably convince Wheeler to stay for less too.
I am confident the Jets can beat any team in a 7 game series. I think this year it is more like other teams don't want to meet us in the playoffs. Even if we start on the road...win one game of the first two and you have home ice advantage.

 

[WiscoJet]

I have figured one thing out by reading the last couple pages you can slot the middle 6 however you want, any way you slice it there will be hell to pay if we are full strength.

 

[GNP]

If Ehlers-Stastny-Laine doesn’t work because of speed and forechecking or lack there of I’m sure Scheifele could swap with Stastny, Ehlers-Scheifele-Laine doesn’t sound that bad, does it? As of late I think Ehlers and Laine deserve to play with Scheifele with they’re recent performances.

Don’t be surprised if we get our old lines back with some new spices from the rookies and Stastny..

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Your so very right, and we should remember that Stastny played as a 2nd line center for a club that's been in 1st place for a good part of the last 3 years-the ( (Blues)-so he must be good, and at least have decent speed. I'm sure Maurice will work it out--nice problem to have.

 

[Robinson2187]

Is it though? I’ve often wondered this. Almost every team in the league wins about 50% of its face offs. First to 20th is something like a 3% difference. From first to worst is around 4 face offs wins a game. Out of 60 face offs.

I get needing to win the important draws, but it seems like a lot of attention is given to face off percentages when the differences are statistically insignificant.

I think it holds more weight for a strong possession team like the Jets.

 

[Flair Hay]

the difference is that when ehlers and laine played with little they played against top 6 players and top 4 dmen now they will play against bottom 6 forward and 3rd pairing guys. lowry will still play against other teams top lines a lot allowing stasny ehlers laine to carve of bottom 6 players and 3rd pairing dmem.

Good call, I hope it works out.

In the playoffs, teams will probably try to get their stars out against Ehlers and Laine as much as possible. Stastny being good defensively should help big time with that.

 

[csk]

Jets have arguably the best top-9 in the league, and probably the best 4th line with Copp-Lowry-Armia. With Petan, Tanev, Hendricks, Dano, Matthias and Lemieux on deck, they have decent options to slot into any of the lines.

As I noted earlier, I wonder a bit if Maurice ends up putting Perreault with Stastny and Laine, or Roslovic with Stastny and Ehlers. The one potential deficit of Stastny with Ehlers and Laine is that they lack a player that is a fast and effective forechecker for puck retrieval. Perreault and Roslovic are both very effective in that role.

I kinda want to see if this middle 6 works:

Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Laine-Stastny-Roslovic

Would solve your issue, and would see the return of the ever-so-dominant PLE. The only matter is convincing Mo to play Laine at LW.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Shocking trade, moreso because of the St.Louis story as opposed to ours. I can't believe the Blues waved the white flag a point behind a playoff spot.

Our pool is deep and strong, I think we can sacrifice a first that will be a late pick. Foley is buried on the depth chart with our wing strength.

Also, if the Jets flopped out in the first round it would really put a damper on great season. We are favourites now and need some playoff success. Stastny sends the message we are raising the bar.

Good work by Chevy, yet again.

 

[Mud Turtle]

So some interesting numbers for Little and Stastny.
Over the last 7 seasons:
Little 452 games, 320 points
Stastny 459 games, 312 points

Not much to choose between the two!
Two good #2 centres.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Duh? He is using #25 which was reported after I had asked. What is the correlation between Stastny and #28 anyways?

#27, #28, #29

A joke missed by everyone. I cry.

Even if he does not work out with Ehlers and Laine, i love this trade. Makes the team plenty stronger.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

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Yes, I do agree totally with what you've said. His market value today at 32 would likely be around the $ 5 mil mark, and maybe we can afford that. I do not see Mason or Enstrom being around next year, in order to keep all our players. Also like many have said, maybe Trouba, Buff or Myers will have to go. We'll see what happens.

I start with the assumption that Enstrom is gone and we are still up against the cap by the time bonuses are allowed for. Some cap has to be moved to add any large or even medium sized contract.

 

[Ducky10]

This trade has really put an exclamation point on how little pretty much everyone on the TSN crew knows about the Jets. Forced to talk about them because of the Stastny deal the best most of them could come up with is how the Jets have improved their centre position.

Thanks guys, insightful stuff.

 

[pateramus]

Buffs interview about the trade was 3:35 and I literally counted 42 "You know" in there.

Yes i did have more productive things i could have done, but, you know...

 

[untouchable21]

Ya gotta go when you gotta go -
This was a good move regardless of the 1st rounder (late) and the prospect - why are the best teams beefing up at the deadline?
Because you never know what's going to happen next year, or the year after - if you're good, go for it while you have the opportunity, always.
Absolutely awesome that we could find a way to pull in another C that looks like a perfect fit.

My brother, a huge Leaf fan and has a really strong understanding of the game, sends me a message around noon today:
"Best top 9 in the game - you guys are scaring the crap out of every GM in the league right now"

Reading this made me think of that old HNIC Stanley Cup song intro “The Chance May Never Come Again”

Maybe someone can post one of those videos from YouTube.

Just thinking about the possibility makes me tingle.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

I have mixed feelings about this and am not as euphoric about this as many here. There is no denying that Stastny is a great player and a great add for this season + hopefully the playoffs. But, is 20 games of Statstny + a playoff run worth the steep price? I don't mind moving Foley but a 1st added to the package? That seems a bit steep for a pure rental. I realize that teams have spent similar or more on rentals in the past (Ladd, Hanzel, Reaves) but it just makes me a little uneasy.

 

[garret9]

Is it though? I’ve often wondered this. Almost every team in the league wins about 50% of its face offs. First to 20th is something like a 3% difference. From first to worst is around 4 face offs wins a game. Out of 60 face offs.

I get needing to win the important draws, but it seems like a lot of attention is given to face off percentages when the differences are statistically insignificant.

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At first thought, a lot of people may agree with you-- but in today's very competitive NHL- winning 3-5 % more face offs, just may win you 3-4 more games per year ?? Be interesting to see a study on those stats.

Out of 60 face offs, but keep in mind that neutral zone face offs --which are the bulk of them-- are almost benign, which further shows how overrated face offs stats are.

Winning 100 face offs *more than you lose* is worth...

• 0.9 goals for EV neutral zone FO
• 2.5 goals for EV non-neutral zone FO
• 3.5 goals for PP offensive zone or PK defensive zone

To give some context to that, the best and worst in each of those categories...

• CAR 55.7% FO% in those situations is worth about 1.1 goals; COL 42.6% FO% in those situations is worth about -1.4 goals
• DAL 54.8% FO% in those situations is worth about 4.8 goals; COL 44.0% FO% in those situations is worth about -4.6 goals
• BUF 55.3% FO% in those situations is worth about 2.1 goals; COL 39.2% FO% in those situations is worth about -2.7 goals