Post-Game Talk: star

[leetch99]

I'll stay on this island then that I thought Laf looked much better tonight since... I dunno when this season.

Is it enough? No. Something to build on? Yes.

Keep going kid.

He could have had a couple of real good scoring chances on the PP's if panarin would have shot/passed the puck to him standing free in the crease and instead he tried to force a cross ice pass not once but twice to Mika . Panarin had the time and Laf had the space.....and the lane was there .....on at least of those opps he could have made the pass . It was almost as if Panarin did not want him to score .

 

[Unpredictable1]

He could have had a couple of real good scoring chances on the PP's if panarin would have shot/passed the puck to him standing free in the crease and instead he tried to force a cross ice pass not once but twice to Mika . Panarin had the time and Laf had the space.....and the lane was there .....on at least of those opps he could have made the pass . It was almost as if Panarin did not want him to score .

It's almost like you heard me yelling at the TV last night for the same thing.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I’m confident the best power play unit on this team has panarin on it. I’m also confident that he’s got a better shot and is obviously a better passer than anyone not on PP1.

Panarin is in the wrong spot right now. The setup is wrong, Trochek should it be on the unit, and when Kreider comes back he needs to start gettin mg involved he’s done absolutely nothing on the PP all season which is crazy after last year

 

[duhmetreE]

OK. 5 v 5 play has been much better this year tbh. Total offense(pp goals count also) GF/GP is right smack dab in the middle. There are only 5 or 6 teams in the league that have scored a significant amount more(10+) goals to date than the Rangers. Improvements are always needed but my point is it just isn't as bad as you make it seem on a seemingly nightly basis.

but it is. We have one of the worst even strength offenses in the playoffs. Being better than last year is not an accomplishment.... I guess it's a start? With the amount of talent we have, we should be at the top. Massively underachieving

That's a problem. I guess it depends what your expectations are. I would like to win a cup(s). We do not have elite team anything. It was the PP last year and goaltending. We have elite individuals. It's rare a team wins... if we're not great at anything, as a team. We are better than last year. We should be better. We need to be better if we're looking at the ultimate goal.... once again, that's the point.

But it's amazing how we still win... Imagine if we had a good even strength offense?

 

[gravey9]

Both goals last night were scored as a result of the team finally saying, F it, we're taking the puck to the net and then battling for it back. Both plays were the result of net front scrambles where the puck squirts out for an open look. A lot of experts call these broken plays. But to me, they're goals of aggression. There's a sense of urgency to them. There's a sense of we're about to battle in front of your net whether you like it or not. They're the kind of goals this team has tended to shy away from at times. These goals are harder to score, they do require paying a physical toll. And so, it makes sense that there's some reluctance during an 82 game regular season. But for a team to win a cup or go on a run in this league, you need to be able to score goals like the two last night and the game tying goal against the Wild the other night. For many teams, these are goals that only happen out of desperation, but the best teams find a way to get these goals (in addition to finesse goals) as part of their regular repertoire. I'm hopeful the last few games have reinforced this notion in the room.

Finally, an underrated decision on Miller's goal was Panarin's play to get the puck to the net with about 8 seconds left. Up until that moment, team had spent about 20 seconds rimming the puck around the offensive zone without anything going to the net. Panarin threw it into the middle without seeming to care if there was an open man. He threw it there knowing it was likely just going to create chaos. He did so, knowing time was just about out. Actually if you watch the replay, you can see Panarin look up at the scoreboard before the puck comes back around to him. Underrated, important moment. Just get the puck to the net. If that play doesn't have the mad scramble in front and Panarin instead just went to Miller in the first place, the seas likely do not open up for Miller's two attempts.

 

[duhmetreE]

The untapped potential of this team relies on them skating.... consistently moving their feet.

Aggressive effort.. attack.

I don't know how to change that besides training. Need to learn to kill yourself and push your body to extremes off the ice, so it's easier on the ice..

 

[PuckLuck3043]

but it is. We have one of the worst even strength offenses in the playoffs. Being better than last year is not an accomplishment.... I guess it's a start? With the amount of talent we have, we should be at the top. Massively underachieving

That's a problem. I guess it depends what your expectations are. I would like to win a cup(s). We do not have elite team anything. It was the PP last year and goaltending. We have elite individuals. It's rare a team wins... if we're not great at anything, as a team. We are better than last year. We should be better. We need to be better if we're looking at the ultimate goal.... once again, that's the point.

But it's amazing how we still win... Imagine if we had a good even strength offense?

They still win because they are a good, consistent, and a balanced team that has some elite individual skill. It's really not surprising they win a lot of games. PP Is still one of the best when clicking although they need to change things up a bit, Shesty is still a top 5 goalie, defensive zone play has been better and GA/GP is 8th in league, Overall offense is ok and IMO they create plenty of chances 5 v 5 and have some elite skill. This team offers a lot of challenges to other teams, more than you obviously give them credit for. They still need an upgrade in middle 6 forward and 3LD. Hopefully they get some smart upgrades at trade deadline like last year because pre deadline they are better than last year's team. I see no team in this league that they couldn't potentially beat in a 7 game series except for Boston. Lets see how things stand in a few months.

 

[cheech70]

Foxy show the rockette move Bread finished it

 

[bobbop]

I've said this before...

Panarin better get cranked up for a big, big playoff run or else the Rangers will be looking at ways to move his contract.

 

[duhmetreE]

I've said this before...

Panarin better get cranked up for a big, big playoff run or else the Rangers will be looking at ways to move his contract.

It leaked that Drury wasn't pleased.

What team can accept that contract? Panarin seems like the type that would waive, if he felt he 'wasn't wanted'.... or go back to 2019 Panarin.

I absolutely love the guy. His play since covid has changed. He's a top5 player in the world when he's moving his feet and attacking.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

It leaked that Drury wasn't pleased.

What team can accept that contract? Panarin seems like the type that would waive, if he felt he 'wasn't wanted'.... or go back to 2019 Panarin.

I absolutely love the guy. His play since covid has changed. He's a top5 player in the world when he's moving his feet and attacking.

Ducks will have the cap space, a bunch of flashy players, his buddy from the Rangers, possibly Bedard and a great location, I think that's the obvious place to look

 

[Raspewtin]

here's the thing

Panarin's mobility has been off for two years now. I don't think it's getting better and at this point he's shown he doesn't know how to play without it. He has the exact same playbook everytime he enters the offensive zone and it never works. I don't think he's going to get better or revert at this point.

I'm sincerely not a fan of trading skill at this point but I think if anyone would take Panarin he has to go, at this point. He's just very expensive to not provide much at ES.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I've said this before...

Panarin better get cranked up for a big, big playoff run or else the Rangers will be looking at ways to move his contract.

I guess it depends on how he plays the rest of the year but assuming he has a 95 point regular season and a so-so playoffs how hard would it be to trade his big contract and what would the return possibly be?

 

[bhamill]

He played 18 mins vs Minn, didn't notice him. He played 21 mins tonight, had a good pass in front to Zip, nice high slot deflection.. and that's it. He was slower to the pucks than Kreider on the PP and doesn't push out after a point shot to look for rebounds quick enough. PP1 has been shit lately anyway. I say put Kakko in there. He deserves it period. As for PP2, please get Trouba off PP2. Miller should be QBing that for sure.

Thought Laf did a good job going to the front and screening on a fairly regular basis. Also that outside-in move on Suter along the boards forced Suter to punch him in the face and take a penalty. Hahaha. He had a good game. Not special, but solid. I wouldn’t expect any player to explode in one game after getting more responsibility. It takes consistency in that type of use. If Laf was on a lesser team he would be getting that responsibility game in and game out... And be way further along in his development. But he’s not, so he’s not. So there’s two choices: prioritize him anyway, to the possible short term detriment of the team but to accelerate his development and help the team mid term, or keep him curbed and delay his development. IMO he’s eventually going to be the player we envisioned, or at least close to it. It’s just a matter of which path they choose for him how long it takes.
And f*** yeah, Miller should be on PP2. Laf on PP2 would be fine too… if they didn’t normally get 20 seconds and start outside the O zone.

 

[duhmetreE]

here's the thing

Panarin's mobility has been off for two years now. I don't think it's getting better and at this point he's shown he doesn't know how to play without it. He has the exact same playbook everytime he enters the offensive zone and it never works. I don't think he's going to get better or revert at this point.

I'm sincerely not a fan of trading skill at this point but I think if anyone would take Panarin he has to go, at this point. He's just very expensive to not provide much at ES.

He's fully capable of being that guy still imo... he was doing it to start the season.. He looked like he was 'back'....

.. It stopped real quick though.

Ducks will have the cap space, a bunch of flashy players, his buddy from the Rangers, possibly Bedard and a great location, I think that's the obvious place to look

McTavish or Zegras for Panarin would be something... in a year or two.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

These are the types of games where it doesn't matter what happens the rest of the year, you were just happy to be there for that moment.

For all of the warts this team has they are a fun bunch to watch. Mixed personalities and skillsets. They are anything but vanilla.

The tying and OT goal showed their resilience as a team and shows that they are really capable of some special things. It isnt the first time weve seen it with this group either.

And I must say it was a great call by Joe and Same and also the postgame with Vally talking about going to Bungalow 8 and ordering bottle service after wins like this. Priceless.

 

[McRanger92]

It leaked that Drury wasn't pleased.

What team can accept that contract? Panarin seems like the type that would waive, if he felt he 'wasn't wanted'.... or go back to 2019 Panarin.

I absolutely love the guy. His play since covid has changed. He's a top5 player in the world when he's moving his feet and attacking.

It's not a good sign that he was turning the puck over all night in a tight checking playoff atmosphere. If he wants go go figure skating maybe he is interested in getting out of the NY spotlight and rejoining Strome in SoCal. Long way to go until that time but Anaheim is our best bet to dump him if it comes to it

 

[DanielBrassard]

here's the thing

Panarin's mobility has been off for two years now. I don't think it's getting better and at this point he's shown he doesn't know how to play without it. He has the exact same playbook everytime he enters the offensive zone and it never works. I don't think he's going to get better or revert at this point.

I'm sincerely not a fan of trading skill at this point but I think if anyone would take Panarin he has to go, at this point. He's just very expensive to not provide much at ES.

You could see it somewhat during the shortened season his skating was not quite the same as his first season here, now it's obvious. It's a real shame. Panarin used to not only be an elite offensive player but how many times did you see him pick a guys pocket or come back hard in the defensive zone and make a play and then turn it back up ice. He used to play much closer to a 200 ft game while being so dynamic but now it's pretty much gone. He's still one of the better playmakers in the league but he turns the puck over more and the rest of his game has deteriorated.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

He's fully capable of being that guy still imo... he was doing it to start the season.. He looked like he was 'back'....

.. It stopped real quick though.

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McTavish or Zegras for Panarin would be something... in a year or two.

If he's playing like this or worse in a year or two I think it's more about a place to park the $11M than a return, maybe you get a good middle six type if they even have one of those over there. The league is so unforgiving to guys with huge cap hits. Like the Lundqvist-Georgiev buyout-shuffle actually made sense at the time

 

[duhmetreE]

I think we know why @EdJovanovski loves Kravtsov now......

it's his hands.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I think we know why @EdJovanovski loves Kravtsov now......

it's his hands.

That coupled with Millers head bobbing forward and his facial expression hahahah

 

[bhamill]

Idk why he hasnt gotten a shot yet but a 28 year old Euro free agent isnt really the bottom 6 answer we're looking for imo

I thought was was more tailored to the NA game but he hasn’t forced his way up yet.

 

[ArPanet]

Lol Miller punishing Seguin for scoring a moment before thing the game

 

[Profet]

It leaked that Drury wasn't pleased.

What team can accept that contract? Panarin seems like the type that would waive, if he felt he 'wasn't wanted'.... or go back to 2019 Panarin.

I absolutely love the guy. His play since covid has changed. He's a top5 player in the world when he's moving his feet and attacking.

Where was this leaked? What was leaked?

 

[Kocur26]