I stopped watching around mid season (still following the commentary), so maybe something changed, but I felt the costumes and sets were uninspired. The latter often felt confined.
Well, to be fair, unless Luke trained for like 3 days with Yoda, ESB is a little nonsensical too.
Episode 7 does have some of the better looking scenes, mostly because they're filmed in nature, but most of the episode and the series, as a whole, have sets that look like confined sets, as you say. To be fair, they're often good sets, but you can still tell that they're sets and there's no mistaking, especially, when a scene is shot in real woods (like in Episode 7) and when it's shot in a sound stage made to look like woods (Episodes 4 & 5).
After leaving Yoda, Luke was easily defeated by Vader, lost his hand and his lightsaber and had an emotional outburst. That makes sense, considering the briefness of his training. He didn't learn much and I think that his real training happened after ESB and before RotJ.
So your explanation is that Luke trained himself?
No, I didn't mean that Luke trained himself. I think that you could've figured out what I meant if you thought about it for a moment and weren't so eager to put words into my mouth.
He trained for like... a few hours on the Falcon?
He gets introduced to the force, learns to use a light saber, then ultimately uses the force at the climax of the movie. He has 3 years after that leading up to ESB, and the point of the wampa scene is to show he's made additional progress.
The criticism isn't inconsistent. You just don't understand it, and don't try to, it seems. Johnjm22 and I are both clearly talking about Luke improving in the years between the movies, not during them.
100%. It's always been simple dumb kiddie fun (I know the word kiddie is perceived as an insult by some, but it is what it is, it's a fairy tale, for kids). The dumbest stuff for me is everything Ewoks in the TROTJ (if you don't receive it as children material, I really don't understand how you can get through this movie) + Luke's "plan" to save Han (which is so dumb and improbable - I'm not sure if convoluted really expresses what "alambiqué" means, but I guess that's the word).
During this time period Plagueis is canonically an infant,, I'm in awe of that toddler, lad is an absolute unit when he grows up he'll be the size of Galactus or Unicron. ...Then again that didnt stop them from adding Ki Adi Mundi who wasnt even born yet, which just goes to show how much of the EU Harvy Weinstein's former personal assistant actually read and claims to know everything about inside and out. BTW LOL, Wookiepedia just updated Plagius' bio to match this timeline now.
And mundi in the prequels said the Sith were extinct for s 1000 years of some ish like that
Yoda I can understand and not have a problem since he's 900 in Jedi and said he trained Jedi for 800 so at least that math half ass ads up, have one guy who isnt even suppose to be alive for another 40 years and a sith who's suppose to still be sucking a pacifier and shitting his space diapers is HIGHLY illogical, are they time lords or something or just live beyond the realms of time and space like f***ing Pennywise?
