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‘Star Wars’ Series ‘The Acolyte’ Announces Full Cast, Begins Production
The "Star Wars" series "The Acolyte" at Disney+ has announced its full cast as production gets underway.
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Online Series: Star Wars: The Acolyte on Disney+
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tarheelhockey
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I like that they're beginning to produce stories which would stand up well in their own genre even if Star Wars weren't involved, and then adding the SW universe as an extra layer of interest. As opposed to starting with lightsabers and aliens, and a requirement for someone to say "I have a bad feeling about this", and then trying to somehow work out a plot.
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I hope that somehow Palpatine does not return.
The final scene will be a young Palpatine meeting Plagueis.
Search works. Great job, @Jussi. After the first 6 movies came out I posted here that unless they did this, episodes 7-9 would be horrible and they were. I think this will be the best SW production ever and am really looking forward to it. @tarheelhockey
Star Wars’ The Acolyte Makes History With the Debut of Manny Jacinto as the First Live-Action Asian Jedi
The Good Place star Manny Jacinto carves his niche in the Star Wars lore as the premier live-action Asian Jedi.
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Star Wars’ The Acolyte EP Explains How The Show Differs From Other Stories The Franchise Has Told About Jedi And Force-Wielders
Expect this show to buck the trend.
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The Acolyte Wants To Redefine Star Wars
A new interview sheds light on how the upcoming series will delve into the Force's uncharted territories and challenges traditional Star Wars narratives.
www.gamespot.com
The Acolyte Is Attempting to Flip Star Wars on Its Head
The High Republic-set Star Wars show with Amandla Stenberg and Lee Jung-jae hits Disney+ in 2024.
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tarheelhockey
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Search works. Great job, @Jussi. After the first 6 movies I came out I posted here that unless they did this, episodes 7-9 would be horrible and they were. I think this will be the best SW production ever and am really looking forward to it. @tarheelhockey
Star Wars’ The Acolyte Makes History With the Debut of Manny Jacinto as the First Live-Action Asian Jedi
The Good Place star Manny Jacinto carves his niche in the Star Wars lore as the premier live-action Asian Jedi.
Star Wars’ The Acolyte EP Explains How The Show Differs From Other Stories The Franchise Has Told About Jedi And Force-Wielders
Expect this show to buck the trend.
The Acolyte Wants To Redefine Star Wars
A new interview sheds light on how the upcoming series will delve into the Force's uncharted territories and challenges traditional Star Wars narratives.
The Acolyte Is Attempting to Flip Star Wars on Its Head
The High Republic-set Star Wars show with Amandla Stenberg and Lee Jung-jae hits Disney+ in 2024.
It's gonna be super weird seeing Manny Jacinto in a serious role. In the back of my head he will always be that DJ from Jacksonville. But as far as I can tell, he seems like a pretty convincing actor and capable of handling this role.
They still have my interest here.
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I'm not sure that you should be excited for this if you thought that the sequel trilogy was horrible. From what I've read, this takes inspiration from The Last Jedi and the showrunner wants to carry on in Rian Johnson's footsteps. A show in which the Sith are sympathetic and misunderstood and the Jedi are in the wrong doesn't sound like Star Wars to me, frankly, and is liable to be highly divisive along the same lines as The Last Jedi.
tarheelhockey
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IMO, the best Star Wars content is that which focuses on the balance between the light and dark side. That doesn’t necessarily mean the Jedi have to be in the wrong, but in a context of both sides being driven to near-extinction there has to be some sort of plot device for why the Sith would recover at the same pace as the Jedi. The very best storytelling (as in KOTR) shows us the weaknesses of the Jedi other than just being bad teachers, and shows us some Sith appeal beyond raw appeals to “unlimited power!!!”… l we can hope this show gives us something a little more nuanced.
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I mean, the Sith are intrinsically sympathetic and misunderstood considering the lengths that Luke Skywalker goes to in order to redeem his father.
The overarching focus of the entire film series is Anakin Skywalker turning to the ways of the Sith only to be redeemed.
I don't really have an issue with looking at alternative perspectives on the Force. The idea that the path of the Jedi is the only positive way to interpret the Force seems pretty limiting.
The major reason The Last Jedi is so divisive is that it was a crappy film that was poorly executed, made a mockery of the work that went into the first iteration and veered off in a direction that was completely inconsistent with the first film in the "trilogy".
I say "trilogy" loosely because every iteration in it is bizarrely disconnected from the others in theme and feel.
If there had been clues, hints or inklings that the Jedi philosophy was ill-fitting to some in the first film, the second would have made more sense.
Instead, Luke throws his lightsaber away after apparently trying to murder his own apprentice, the Rebels mutiny in a slow motion space chase because the Admiral apparently lacks communications skills, they go on a bizarre fetch quest that doesn't matter to get a dude that doesn't even matter, Leia flies around without a space suit in the void of space, the big villain is finally revealed in person only to be killed immediately, and they use a hyperspace jump to destroy a massive star destroyer that begs the question as to why they haven't been doing this the entire time.
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NyQuil
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I always liked the character Jolee Bindo who was a "gray Jedi" because he had the temerity to fall in love and get married, stole from the rich and gave to the poor, that kind of thing.
I liked how the term "pulling a Bindo" became part of the KOTOR canon.
NyQuil
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The final scene will be a young Palpatine meeting Plagueis.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
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tarheelhockey
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That’s the beauty of getting the storytelling right — you end up with these memorable characters with compelling narratives.
Osprey
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This show is reportedly going a lot further than that. The Sith are seemingly the victims in it and the Jedi are the oppressors, a complete reversal of what George Lucas established.
Yes, but it was always clear that the Sith were bad and we were allowed to have some sympathy for Anakin in both trilogies because he was a good person who was corrupted by the dark side. That's very different from excusing his journey to the dark side and making the Jedi the bad guys.
I'm not sure that that was so divisive. I don't recall us having many disagreements over that. What was really divisive was the treatment of Luke Skywalker. I definitely remember many arguments over that and suspect that fans who didn't like that may not be too happy with all Jedi being cast in a critical light.
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NyQuil
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The Jedi have a very inflexible philosophy that eschews emotional connections in order to avoid being guided by fear or loss.
It’s one thing to tap into your emotions as a source of strength to do good - it’s another to go around like a homicidal lunatic murdering all your underlings when they fail you.
In KOTOR, Revan ignores the Jedi Council because he wants to stop the Mandalorian rampage of destruction.
Much like Count Dooku tires of giving mercy to criminals and murderers in Tales of the Jedi.
I can’t imagine a sympathetic view of Sith acting like Palpatine or Vader on Disney+.
I suspect it will be focused on the removal of Force Sensitive children from their families and the forced imposition of the emotionless Jedi world view on them.
I mean, they don’t have much of a choice in the matter “for their own good” and the good of the galaxy.
There’s definitely some license there to perceive the Jedi as the oppressors who brook no competition in terms of tutelage in the Force.
It’s basically a risk averse approach. The assumption is that emotional Jedi will inevitably fall to the Dark Side.
Consider that neither Yoda nor Kenobi believed that Anakin could be redeemed. It was Luke’s emotional connection to his father that allowed it. The Jedi don’t know everything and aren’t infallible.
It’s one thing to tap into your emotions as a source of strength to do good - it’s another to go around like a homicidal lunatic murdering all your underlings when they fail you.
In KOTOR, Revan ignores the Jedi Council because he wants to stop the Mandalorian rampage of destruction.
Much like Count Dooku tires of giving mercy to criminals and murderers in Tales of the Jedi.
I can’t imagine a sympathetic view of Sith acting like Palpatine or Vader on Disney+.
I suspect it will be focused on the removal of Force Sensitive children from their families and the forced imposition of the emotionless Jedi world view on them.
I mean, they don’t have much of a choice in the matter “for their own good” and the good of the galaxy.
There’s definitely some license there to perceive the Jedi as the oppressors who brook no competition in terms of tutelage in the Force.
It’s basically a risk averse approach. The assumption is that emotional Jedi will inevitably fall to the Dark Side.
Consider that neither Yoda nor Kenobi believed that Anakin could be redeemed. It was Luke’s emotional connection to his father that allowed it. The Jedi don’t know everything and aren’t infallible.
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NyQuil
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There’s actually a fairly sympathetic Sith character in The Old Republic in the form of Lana Beniko.
She might be best described as Lawful Evil in that the ends justify the means to impose order and avoid chaos.
She can be very charming, witty and intelligent and is not cruel or murderous unnecessarily. She will work with anyone to achieve her goals, even the Republic.
“May the Force serve you well” is her typical farewell, as the Sith regard the Force as a tool to be used and mastered as opposed to something to submit to.
They’ve done so many “young person learns the Force and becomes a Jedi” stories that I’m willing to see something else.
She might be best described as Lawful Evil in that the ends justify the means to impose order and avoid chaos.
She can be very charming, witty and intelligent and is not cruel or murderous unnecessarily. She will work with anyone to achieve her goals, even the Republic.
“May the Force serve you well” is her typical farewell, as the Sith regard the Force as a tool to be used and mastered as opposed to something to submit to.
They’ve done so many “young person learns the Force and becomes a Jedi” stories that I’m willing to see something else.
NyQuil
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I sense a former D & D player disturbance in the force.
The alignment paradigm serves so many purposes.
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Osprey
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Several articles, the showrunner and the main actress have all said that this show will be different from any previous Star Wars, and that appears to be what excites you guys about it. It's obviously different enough, so I don't understand the point in arguing that the ways in which it's different aren't actually new to Star Wars. Similarly, the showrunner, herself, admitted that it could be divisive, and that should go without saying with it being different from any previous Star Wars, so I'm not sure why there seems to be pushback over that, too.
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NyQuil
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I mean, they also want people to tune in and generate buzz.
We, the viewers, don't actually know how different it is. We're taking their word for it.
Andor was very different, and it was awesome.
The Last Jedi was very different, and it was terrible.
Ultimately there has been so much Star Wars content generated over the years that the likelihood that it will be consistent with something already written in some tie-in novel, or some comic book, or some video game, is pretty high.
The idea that the Jedi are not always the infallible guardians of justice isn't a new concept, but it's not something that has been covered in the films or TV series to date. (aside from TLJ)
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