Movies: Star Wars: Rogue One Part II Release date Dec 14th

[MadDevil]

Not Saving Private Ryan?

Visually (it had that same "gritty" feel) I think it's more Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, but the story reminded me more of Dirty Dozen. Really, there were parts that felt like various war movies, which is exactly what they were going for.

 

[MadDevil]

Anyone else also notice that Red Leader and Gold Leader were the same ones from ANH?

Also, did anybody notice the fate of Red Five?

 

[Jussi]

Visually (it had that same "gritty" feel) I think it's more Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, but the story reminded me more of Dirty Dozen. Really, there were parts that felt like various war movies, which is exactly what they were going for.

I thought the plotline was very similar to Saving Private Ryan. Get person/thing to safety/place X and see how many, if any, survive.

 

[BonMorrison]

Also, did anybody notice the fate of Red Five?

Thought that was also a really nice touch.

 

[Tawnos]

I contributed his relatively quick recovery to him telling the truth. It didn't drive him as nuts as it would have had he tried to lie. That's my headcanon anyway.

Pretty sure that's how they explained the thing in the movie anyway. Haven't seen it a second time yet to be sure.

 

[johnjm22]

Only thing I found cheesy is that Vader lives in Mordor. A little over the top. You'd think he has an aversion to lava.

That whole scene was poorly done.

It's like they're trying really hard to show us what a badass Darth Vader is.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

He's young, power hungry, unstable and wreckless. He's not some polished Sith lord.

I mean we're expecting the same guy who slashes expensive machinery and equipment in anger when he gets pissed off to be prudent and level headed in a duel? He's immature as hell. It shouldn't be surprising that he'd toy with Finn even while injured.

Or maybe he's so early in his training that he isn't THAT powerful YET? Vader clearly has a temper and he still gets things done except when he got too cocky facing off against Obi Wan in Return Of The Sith and nearly died.

An untrained Rey upped him, he has much to learn as a Sith and clearly had much to learn as a Jedi even when he turned on Luke and the padawans.

I expect us to see a MUCH more powerful version of Kylo and Rey in the next movie.

Not unlikeable but rather unrelatable because they stay so undeveloped or distant. Jynn is the only one with more background but even she doesn't become relatable until she sees the hologram of her father. A movie with a similar plotline, Saving Private Ryan, had characters that you felt more attached to than the ones in Rogue One. While Fin isn't quite so well developed, Rey is much better than any character in Rogue One.

You saw more into Rey, I agree. However Fin and the Empire pilot were not too different except one was force fed lines and the other just kind of blended in. Neither were overly big players in the Empire but they both played key roles in the films. Would it really have made a ton of sense investing additional time into the characters seeing as the ending would've been the same? Maybe more into Jynn would've worked but do you really care about Cassian's story for example?

[SPOIL]Cassian not believing Jynn while she was very passionate about the Hologram and then the Rebels not siding with her really made you feel for her IMO. She wanted to show the galaxy that her father was a good man and not the orchestrator of the destruction of everyone that got in the way of the Empire.[/SPOIL]

 

[Garo]

That whole scene was poorly done.

It's like they're trying really hard to show us what a badass Darth Vader is.

If anything that scene did a lot to separate the Siths from the Empire hierarchy - which the OT never truly did for reasons - and further illustrate why Tarkin was in charge in ANH, not Vader. I don't see them trying too hard there at anything there.

 

[dogbazinho]

If anything that scene did a lot to separate the Siths from the Empire hierarchy - which the OT never truly did for reasons - and further illustrate why Tarkin was in charge in ANH, not Vader. I don't see them trying too hard there at anything there.

The whole thimg got me thinking. What is dangerous to Jedi/Sith? What should they avoid?

1. Other Jedi/Sith
2. Space
3. Lava


Yeah Vadar is a badass but he's a bit reckless. Falls, blasters, wesk minded are all easily avoided. Lava or volcanic issues would seem to be dngerous and unpredicatable. Piloting your own ship as a Jedi mighr be good bur even Vader xouldnt avoid the Millenium Falcon althoufh he didnt die. Being a passanger seems dangerous and should be avoided, assumin one cant influence the ships around.

Also couldnt Vader have just forced the disk to his hand? Doesnt he do that to Sabres and other objects? At least couldnt't have willed ghe guy towards him? Kmowing what we kmow about Jedi now he seems rather weak and I have a hard time beliebing he's as stromg as most claim.

He fails repeatedly. Misses disk, beat by Obi, kicked out of the trench, dies etc etc

Ipad typing too lazy to edit

 

[Natey]

I thought the plotline as very similar to Saving Private Ryan. Get person/thing to place safety/place X and see how many, if any, survive.

So similar to a lot of movies? lol

 

[Hivemind]

Anyone else also notice that Red Leader and Gold Leader were the same ones from ANH?

They used old archival footage from ANH that they found at Skywalker Ranch. They then digitally edited the cockpits and backgrounds to make it fit. They said it was a ton of work for a relatively minor detail, but one of the ones they were most proud of.

 

[Aladyyn]

The whole thimg got me thinking. What is dangerous to Jedi/Sith? What should they avoid?

1. Other Jedi/Sith
2. Space
3. Lava


Yeah Vadar is a badass but he's a bit reckless. Falls, blasters, wesk minded are all easily avoided. Lava or volcanic issues would seem to be dngerous and unpredicatable. Piloting your own ship as a Jedi mighr be good bur even Vader xouldnt avoid the Millenium Falcon althoufh he didnt die. Being a passanger seems dangerous and should be avoided, assumin one cant influence the ships around.

Also couldnt Vader have just forced the disk to his hand? Doesnt he do that to Sabres and other objects? At least couldnt't have willed ghe guy towards him? Kmowing what we kmow about Jedi now he seems rather weak and I have a hard time beliebing he's as stromg as most claim.

He fails repeatedly. Misses disk, beat by Obi, kicked out of the trench, dies etc etc

Ipad typing too lazy to edit

Yes, Vader is actually rather weak with the Force due to his injuries. He's almost more machine than man and machines can't manipulate the Force.

Also we have little to gauge his strength on. He didn't exactly have many good opponents after getting his suit (Kenobi let him win, Luke was raw in ep5)

 

[Dubi Doo]

Loved it. So glad Disney bought the franchise. I was getting tired of redudant comic book movies. Star Wars has an entire universe to explore and infinite stories to tell so I believe it will never get old. As others have said, i want to see more of Vader.

 

[Garo]

Also couldnt Vader have just forced the disk to his hand? Doesnt he do that to Sabres and other objects? At least couldnt't have willed ghe guy towards him? Kmowing what we kmow about Jedi now he seems rather weak and I have a hard time beliebing he's as stromg as most claim.

Sure, but it's part arrogance, part blindness. He thinks he'll get them all anyway, and is entirely focused on tearing people apart to figure out they might have a way to get away.

 

[silverfish]

Loved it. So glad Disney bought the franchise. I was getting tired of redudant comic book movies. Star Wars has an entire universe to explore and infinite stories to tell so I believe it will never get old. As others have said, i want to see more of Vader.

Well, we've now seen basically everything except for what he's up to between 3 and Rogue One. Which seems to be mostly basting.

Watching him in his prime at the end of the film though... divine.

 

[Aladyyn]

Yea, we need less of Vader if anything. I'm in the middle of watching Rebels atm and his appearance there felt really cheap, same as in this movie. He had too much screentime in Rogue One and it hurts his character imo.

Also just wanted to add how glad I am that there were no frickin Jedi in this movie.

 

[MadDevil]

I wouldn't say he had too much screen time in the movie. Certainly not enough to hurt his character. I mean, haven't we all wanted to see Vader in his prime just destroying people?

 

[Aladyyn]

Vader never got to his prime. When he was strongest he just slaughtered a bunch of children and lost to Obi-Wan because he was a hothead.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I wouldn't say he had too much screen time in the movie. Certainly not enough to hurt his character. I mean, haven't we all wanted to see Vader in his prime just destroying people?

It says something- not in a good way- that the consensus favorite scene in this film was a one shot involving an old character (and zero new ones) that was tangentially related to the plot and fundamentally unnecessary to the film as a whole.

 

[RandV]

The moment I knew this was something different...

[Spoil]When Cassian shoots the Rebel spy in the back. I mean, I always figured there was some gray area with the Rebels doing bad things for the greater cause, buy seeing that on screen was interesting.[/Spoil]

And yeah, it definitely had a very WWII war movie feel. It felt very The Dirty Dozen to me.

Someone needs to make a gif and edit that in a bad 'Greedo shoots first' manner

 

[RandV]

Anyways finally saw it today. It was good but I still liked The Force Awakens better. Just a matter of setup really, TFA gives me characters to care for and a continuing storyline, while Rogue One is more a one & done movie.

As far as the overall Star Wars story is concerned, I really like how they patched up one of the bigger plot holes in the originals, thought that was rather touching.

Speaking of plot holes though, did I see that wrong or was the Death Star simply stationed and with the construction being finished above the Jedi temple planet? Consider that Cassian's ship was able to simply approach and land on a planet that was an active rebel war zone, having the Death Star hanging out in orbit doesn't seem like a very good way to keep it a secret guys.

 

[TheWanderer]

Yea, we need less of Vader if anything. I'm in the middle of watching Rebels atm and his appearance there felt really cheap, same as in this movie. He had too much screentime in Rogue One and it hurts his character imo.

Also just wanted to add how glad I am that there were no frickin Jedi in this movie.

Do you even like Star Wars?

 

[TheWanderer]

It says something- not in a good way- that the consensus favorite scene in this film was a one shot involving an old character (and zero new ones) that was tangentially related to the plot and fundamentally unnecessary to the film as a whole.

This is why I say they picked the wrong antagonist. This movie SHOULD have been the "what's Vader been up to between 3 and 4" movie. He should have been the main antagonist. Nobody would have been upset by it.

The only thing it would have done is made it seem like it WAS episode 3, 3 was 2, 2 was 1, and 1 didn't exist. Would anybody actually be upset by that though?

 

[Aladyyn]

Do you even like Star Wars?

I love Star Wars. I'm just somewhat fed up by Jedi.

 

[beowulf]

I love Star Wars. I'm just somewhat fed up by Jedi.

But they are the main part of the whole story along with the dark side of the force...