Pre-Game Talk: Stanley Cup Final: New York Rangers vs. Los Angeles Kings

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Trust me. I watched it in the 2011 SCF finals. Parise was getting slowed down constantly. They coach it well. Simply thinking that the rangers speed will disrupt on the forecheck is abit naive, when playing a physical team that is that well coached.

Trust me. This team is significantly faster then the 2012 devils. It has arguably the two fastest players in the NHL.
 
I don't know if I'd say they're on a higher level than '11-12; They're letting in, literally, almost twice as many goals as they did in '11-12.

1.5 GAA / 2.86 GAA
 
I don't know if I'd say they're on a higher level than '11-12; They're letting in, literally, almost twice as many goals as they did in '11-12.

1.5 GAA / 2.86 GAA

Are they scoring more goals too, though? They were at like 3.4 G per game before game 7.
 
So their ratio is significantly lower despite the higher totals in both. Interesting.

Their PP is on fire and they have some ridiculously high S%'s. Their PK isn't that great, 81%. This is why I think if we can continue our trend of not taking a lot of penalties, drawing more than we take, and having a good PK, we have a legit shot here.

Everyone should know by now that the Rangers have been the best 5-on-5 team in the playoffs.
 
We were better defensively up front and we were bigger than this current ranger team. Obviously, this ranger team is quicker and your defense is deeper. Plus, we placed an emphasis on board play as opposed to this quick strike, transitional based rangers attack. The kings were simply deeper and we had no answer for Doughty & couldn't overcome the Kovalchuk injury. But here's the scary conclusion. The kings of 2014 are a grade above that team. They didn't have Gaborik not did they have the two speedy rookies flanking Carter.

2011-12 Kings went 16-4 in the post-season.

They were firing on all cylinders during that entire run from being an 8th seed.
 
Their PP is on fire and they have some ridiculously high S%'s. Their PK isn't that great, 81%. This is why I think if we can continue our trend of not taking a lot of penalties, drawing more than we take, and having a good PK, we have a legit shot here.

31.5 hours is just too damn long to wait.
 
Chosen, you come onto these boards during the games? Rookie mistake.

I usually only post between periods, but sometimes I take a peek at the crazies.

Never understood how you can watch a playoff game while posting constantly. Seems to me it would take some of the joy away.
 
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People are taking shots at Crawford's play in the LAK/CHI series but quite honestly Quick hasnt been much better in these playoffs. A lot of soft goals. Lowest Save % of the remaining goalies going into the game 7 sunday night.
 
People are taking shots at Crawford's play in the LAK/CHI series but quite honestly Quick hasnt been much better in these playoffs. A lot of soft goals. Lowest Save % of the remaining goalies going into the game 7 sunday night.

He has been himself. Slightly above average. His norm is not what he did two years ago.
 
I usually only post between periods, but sometimes I take a peek at the crazies.

Never understood how you can watch a playoff game while posting constantly. Seems to me it would take away some of the joy away.

My laptop is firmly planted in another room, closed. I avoid these boards like the plague. Maybe once every 20 or so games i'll come on between a period to try and boost faith/moral if we're losing by 3/4.

Parabolic range of emotions, though.

Down a goal - Flame player responsible
Down 2 goals - Pack it in no longer have a chance to win
Score a goal to cut lead to 1 - Where was this 2 minutes ago before they scored?
Tie it - Ok maybe we have a shot
Score a goal to win - We are the GOAT

PGT - "Unstoppable force".
 
He has been himself. Slightly above average. His norm is not what he did two years ago.

Yea but he has the voodoo posts on his side. Those things are lethal. Look at this forcefield!!

 
I'm surprised the Rangers are even showing up considering they are playing the 80's Oilers.
 
My laptop is firmly planted in another room, closed. I avoid these boards like the plague. Maybe once every 20 or so games i'll come on between a period to try and boost faith/moral if we're losing by 3/4.

Parabolic range of emotions, though.

Down a goal - Flame player responsible
Down 2 goals - Pack it in no longer have a chance to win
Score a goal to cut lead to 1 - Where was this 2 minutes ago before they scored?
Tie it - Ok maybe we have a shot
Score a goal to win - We are the GOAT

PGT - "Unstoppable force".

Excellent capture of reality except for Down a goal. Players who did nothing wrong get blamed, too, because we all know that no one on the other team ever makes a nice play. When we score, it's a great play. When they score, we suck.
 
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I don't know if I'd say they're on a higher level than '11-12; They're letting in, literally, almost twice as many goals as they did in '11-12.

1.5 GAA / 2.86 GF

They were 1.5 / 2.84 in '11-12, and are 2.86 / 3.48 this year.

and I'd like to point to the 2013 Broncos... scoring a minimum of 20 points points per game throughout the regular season, and an average of 35.64 POINTS PER GAME in the regular season.

That trend continued into the playoffs, where they scored a minimum of 50 points in the first 2 rounds, 25 points per game

But low and behold, they faced a VERY good defensive team in the seattle seahawks, and were subsequently held to 8 points in the Superbowl

I'm not trying to make excuses, and I'm not directly comparing the scoring. I'm just saying you need to limit your scores against while increasing your scores for to be a successful team... That said, you cannot make up for 3GA by scoring 4GF--not in the long term, and ESPECIALLY not in the playoffs, MORESO when playing a team that has it's core identity in defense and goaltending... It's definitely feasible to think that the kings can only score 1-2 goals a game while letting in 3
 
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The 2013-14 Kings are not nearly as dominate as the 2011-12 Kings were in the playoffs. That team may not have scored nearly as many goals, but Quick was excellent as was their defense.

This post season, they've scored significantly more goals per game, but a lot of that has to do with their power power play and unsustainable shooting %. Their defense hasn't been nearly as good and Quick has been painfully average and was outplayed by Crawford last series. They've also been to three game 7s.

This Kings team can be beat. I can see them winning. I can see the Rangers winning. But they aren't a dynasty team that is unbeatable like some are acting. They are a beatable team.
 
LA beat Vancouver and the Blues in 5. Beat the Coyotes in 6. They played 16 games before the Finals in 12.

Yep, not the same as playing back-to-back-to-back 7 game series'. Doughty has played, on average, about 2 minutes more per game than in those other finals and he has played many more games. The Rangers need to do the same thing to him as they did to Subban, long shifts, hit him at all times, make him skate.

Voynov is another one. You need to play the body on him at all times. He is very skilled, but he can be out-muscled.

Mitchell, Greene, Regehr (if he plays) and Schultz all have below average foot-speed.

They like to cycle the puck and send it back to the d-men to hammer shots. Blocked shots will be a HUGE thing in this series. Pressure at the points will be as well. Can they tip the pucks past their d-men early to put them on their heels?
 
How is Doughty's conditioning? Subban was an absolute horse.
 
And we aren't giving up much of anything in the size department either. Too much being made of that slight advantage to LA.

I've always thought LA's size was a red herring of a storyline, where they excel is being a very well coached team positionally and being able to move the puck quickly and easily to an open teammate on the breakout or in their own zone or wherever.
 
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