Speculation: Stamkos

[Dickfoligno]

As a question for Lightning fans and people intrigued by the Stamkos situation:

How confident are you that the Lightning will get something done, even if he hits the open market and gets more than market value from other teams, and if they can, who do you think is most likely to be a casualty on TBL roster to make it happen?

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[Roomba With a Bauer]

Stamkos will look around the league, remember that he can take less with Tampa and still come out ahead due to taxes, and resign there.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Stamkos will look around the league, remember that he can take less with Tampa and still come out ahead due to taxes, and resign there.

Tampa has $5.3M in cap space and still needs to sign 1 defenseman and 2 forwards in addition to Stamkos.

Those 3 players at league minimum will bring the cap space down to ~$3M. I imagine he'll be able to get substantially more than the tax difference of that elsewhere.

 

[Dickfoligno]

The Ryan McDonough move was also really odd to me from an outside perspective, especially with zero retention.

I just wonder why they would willingly put themselves in that situation of bringing back at 30 something year old D with a big cap hit that could have been used to keep Stamkos to begin with instead of now being in a tight spot where they have to dump Jeannot, and/or Sheary, and maybe something else to make it happen and fill the roster out, unless they believe he will sign for much less.

 

[Altimus]

i think he will actually sign in Toronto to a team friendly deal but have one of his worst seasons production wise. no more then 2 seasons, just so he can wear the Jersey from his hometown team.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Tanner Jeannot being traded to LA will free up some cap.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

The Lightning will most likely try to dump some cap in the next week or so. Players like: Sheary, Jeannot, Cirelli, Cernak, Perbix, Sergachev have all be discussed on the Lightning board.

Stamkos' entire foundation is in Tampa. Been that way for 16 years? He's won cups and has the HoF locked up. I doubt he wants to uproot his family at this point I he doesn't have to.

On top of that, the Lightning currently have two top 6 holes to fill (including Stamkos 40Gs). They have $5.5M to do it with. I'm going to guess their plan is NOT to let him walk and fill two top 6 F holes with only $5.5M.

They'll most likely find a way to bring him back.

 

[LevelingSolo]

My guess is Detroit

 

[Richiebottles]

I think he sign with MTL.

High cap for 2-3 years

 

[KingsHockey24]

The Lightning will kost likely try to dump some cap in the next week or so. Players like: Sheary, Jeannot, Cirelli, Cernak, Perbix, Sergachev have all be discussed on the Lightning board.

Stamkos' entire foundation is in Tampa. Been that way for 16 years? He's won cups and has the HoF locked up. I doubt he wants to uproot his family at this point I he doesn't have to.

On top of that, the Lightning currently have two top 6 holes to fill (including Stamkos 40Gs). They have $5.5M to do it with. I'm going to guess their plan is NOT to let him walk and fill two top 6 F holes with only $5.5M.

They'll most likely find a way to bring him back.

Sergachev for Clarke.

Blockbuster.

 

[gvineq]

Stamkos will look around the league, remember that he can take less with Tampa and still come out ahead due to taxes, and resign there.

I feel like people think state taxes are higher than they are. I've lived in both and the state with no state tax has massively high property taxes. Way higher than I would pay in state tax in the state with a state tax. From what I understand Florida has really high property insurance. The last time I filed state income tax I paid less than $1000 for the year and I got something silly like $18 back as a refund. Granted I wasn't making a few million. Conversely when I moved to a state with no state tax or taxes on most groceries I wasn't swimming in money Scrooge McDuck style because of the "savings". Due to a large difference in pay rate it's hard for me to determine if and I am saving money in the no state tax state and if I was if it is a lot. Again, I don't make millions. I will say my yearly property taxes are roughly around the price of a new fully loaded mid class (Toyota type) SUV or luxury sedan. and my property taxes are guaranteed to increase every year.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I think he sign with MTL.

High cap for 2-3 years

Why ? We are still rebuilding doesnt make sense for either side

 

[Coach Parker]

I figure you'll see Boston make an offer to him given their huge hold in the 1st and 2nd line C positions.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

he's coming home to Detroit

 

[Rafafouille]

I feel like people think state taxes are higher than they are. I've lived in both and the state with no state tax has massively high property taxes. Way higher than I would pay in state tax in the state with a state tax. From what I understand Florida has really high property insurance. The last time I filed state income tax I paid less than $1000 for the year and I got something silly like $18 back as a refund. Granted I wasn't making a few million. Conversely when I moved to a state with no state tax or taxes on most groceries I wasn't swimming in money Scrooge McDuck style because of the "savings". Due to a large difference in pay rate it's hard for me to determine if and I am saving money in the no state tax state and if I was if it is a lot. Again, I don't make millions. I will say my yearly property taxes are roughly around the price of a new fully loaded mid class (Toyota type) SUV or luxury sedan. and my property taxes are guaranteed to increase every year.

Off topic but... Wait what. You pay 50 000+ a year in property taxes but "don't make millions"? How the hell do you even afford that.



On the topic of Stamkos, really feel Tampa are moving on and see a age cliff coming. Wouldn't be surprised if he isn't anywhere near PPG this year.

 

[Kcb12345]

Could definitely see a team like Detroit making room for him as others have mentioned. Their recent moves suggest something bigger is coming for sure

 

[Schennanigans]

Looks like a Detroit move if they lose Kane.

 

[theguardianII]

Would Vancouver make an offer? They have 9+million they want to give Guentzel for 7 years. Would Stamkos take a three year deal, 12, 12, 4 with signing bonuses? Avg it out to just under 9 mil cap hit.

Guentzel, a guy that has never hit 100 points 7 years at 9 million, ridiculous.

If Van is contnet to pay Guentzel 9 mil at age 37 why not get a guy that old now that is known to produce at that age?

 

[Quinton Byfield]

Would Vancouver make an offer? They have 9+million they want to give Guentzel for 7 years. Would Stamkos take a three year deal, 12, 12, 4 with signing bonuses? Avg it out to just under 9 mil cap hit.

Guentzel, a guy that has never hit 100 points 7 years at 9 million, ridiculous.

If Van is contnet to pay Guentzel 9 mil at age 37 why not get a guy that old now that is known to produce at that age?

Stamkos has taken a step back. Nearly half of his points were on the PP. Defensively is a liability and not the play driver he used to be.

Guentzel is an exceedingly strong evs producer, both in the regular season and in the playoffs in his career.

 

[theguardianII]

Stamkos has taken a step back. Nearly half of his points were on the PP. Defensively is a liability and not the play driver he used to be.

Guentzel is an exceedingly strong evs producer, both in the regular season and in the playoffs in his career.

Pretty much the same as Guentzel, Stamkos has been even stronger. Look up the comparison on Edge.

The thought being the term. In three years the Canucks will need loads of cash to re-sign players, Demko, Hughes, ? and play in the FA market for really big game.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'm interested to see the term more than anything because he is 34

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Stamkos has taken a step back. Nearly half of his points were on the PP. Defensively is a liability and not the play driver he used to be.

Guentzel is an exceedingly strong evs producer, both in the regular season and in the playoffs in his career.

I can't speak about Guentzel, but it is a fair assessment on Stamkos.

I think he will extend with us for a cheap deal

 

[ccman68]

if he was leaving there would be 10 articles a day about all the teams that he could go to. it's not happening

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I hope Pittsburgh signs him. Would look good on Sid’s wing and is good at faceoffs if Sid ever gets tossed

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I think Vegas signs him. We all know Vegas will look for another big fish because it sounds like Marchessault and Stephenson are walking.