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Speculation: Stamkos Ask from Toronto was 14M AAV
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Yeah, but your initial post said "Lets say it was USD" making that entire calculation wrong.
The tax alone doesn't give you a proper calculation. There's deductions. Awarded living expenses. There's no jock tax in Canada, right?
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Who cares about a thread? The proof is in your managements actions. Tampa fans were indeed saying he was the 4th best player on the team. I can agree with them there. I bet if you ask them they still feel that way. They got roasted by people who did not agree with that, saying they are only saying that because he might leave. Leafs brass also felt he isn't a guy you build a team around. I am not sure what is hard to understand here?
Stamkos was using the Leafs for leverage to try to get more money. PS your comments in that thread I agree with, I was just saying the majority of Leaf fans would have taken him at 10 million in a heartbeat, which is not worth it.
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And the other teams he held meetings with.
It's become clear that he was only leaving if someone gave him a much higher offer than 8.5, which reportedly didn't happen.
Nope ,media and some of the less informed rabid fans were.The was no way they were going to commit huge dollars on a win now player .When they didnt even know what they had ,no smart management group does this.If BB would have been the gm, I could have seen it as more a possibilty.But the group Toronto now has, seems to have more intelligence.And will do things in a much more logical manner ,no more swinging blindly for the fences
Sure, that was the case. The twitter thing confirms it too, based on how everything played out. All you have to do is look at what kind of reaction it caused, the guy totally understood what he was doing. Not blaming him at all, gotta get paid. But its a pretty ****** thing to do to two fan bases, not to mention your current team mates. If I was this guys team mate when all this was happening I would have been furious.
I respect Yzerman a lot as a GM. He's fantastic.
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Yup at this point for Stamkos, The supposed price that teams were willing to offer him were around $10.5 million and that's to much for Stamkos the $8.5 million he signed for with Tampa is about right i would think.
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Yet they gave Phaneuf 7M a year, Kessel 8M a year, Clarkson 5.5M a year, Lupul 5.25M a year, Jeff Finger 3.5M a year...
It wouldn't surprise me if the Leafs did sign Stamkos to that if he wanted to go there. But he didn't. So yeah...
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Exactly not sure that Lou would ever give Stammer that much, I think around $10.5 million per for 7 years was what most teams were willing to go at the very most.
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Same was said about the Oilers too. But the same old people are still there. My point is if the Leafs knew they had a great chance to add Stamkos to their roster, I wouldn't be surprised if they paid him that much.
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Yet everything we know about the situation shows that they were very interested in the player at their terms and the player decided to remain where he was.
Not sure what's so hard to understand here?
Nope ,media and some of the less informed rabid fans were.The was no way they were going to commit huge dollars on a win now player .When they didnt even know what they had ,no smart management group does this.If BB would have been the gm, I could have seen it as more a possibilty.But the group Toronto now has, seems to have more intelligence.And will do things in a much more logical manner ,no more swinging blindly for the fences
Once you get up to speed on all that went on you'll see you're wrong.
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Totally different management at the time, Seriously doubt that Lou would ever consider giving Stamkos $14 million that would cripple Toronto considering that Nylander and Matthews would get big money in the future maybe Marner as well no way could the Leafs go that high. And continue to build a club like that with that core. They would be just like Tampa and Chicago having to let good players go.
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Either he didn't want to go to Toronto so the 14 million dollar ask was so they would say no.
Or this is false
Or this is false
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Jeff Finger. Yeah. Signed by former interim GM Cliff Fletcher. The guy before former GM Brian Burke, who was the guy before former GM Dave Nonis, who was the guy before the current GM Lou Lamoriello, who at the time was the President and GM of the New Jersey Devils.
I can most definitely see the connection, eh.
Strong argument. Really. Very convincing.
There is just one guy that I would consider giving that kind of money to, and I'd need to see him play a full season first
If Leafs were offering that much, he'd have signed with them. So it's pretty safe to assume they didn't offer it.
This is true. Although the overpayment wasn't nearly as severe as many of us thought it might be, so we're okay with it.
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I'm pretty sure that some tbay fans still think that about him. I recall a time when most wouldn't even sign Stamkos for 10mil since it'd hurt the extensions handed to the young core players on RFA contracts.
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