SSM Greyhounds 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[Fischhaber]

I guess the best we can hope for is something like Smith + 2,2,3,3,4,4.

That's a little disappointing after hearing that both Smith and Griffin were originally included, but it would be a touch more than the Allen deal, so not too bad.

If it's much less than that then I won't be pleased at all with Raftis for sticking with Oshawa and not moving on to another team.

 

[scotty171]

another poster on oshawa board saying they are looking for a top 6 forward as well...which may mean no picks (or not many) involved as they only have 2-2nd and 2-3rds left...hopefully we get at least a 2nd as well coming back. be a shame that we give up a world class player for 1 player and a pick.

would have loved to see griffin here as well but at least we are selling for once.

I'm guessing it will be for more than 1 pick. The Gens will probably try and use Griffin in another deal for a forward.

 

[Fischhaber]

another poster on oshawa board saying they are looking for a top 6 forward as well...which may mean no picks (or not many) involved as they only have 2-2nd and 2-3rds left...hopefully we get at least a 2nd as well coming back. be a shame that we give up a world class player for 1 player and a pick.

would have loved to see griffin here as well but at least we are selling for once.

I can't see Raftis agreeing to swap out Griffin for a single pick, but I guess we'll see in the coming hours.

 

[Houndzfan20]

I'm guessing it will be for more than 1 pick. The Gens will probably try and use Griffin in another deal for a forward.

if that's true that'd suck...he would be slotting in with arguably one of, if not the best 07 group (with Kitchener IMO), and be loaded up for a run in 2027, playing a big part. if he accepts a deal to a lesser team, that would be crazy.

in my opinion anyway. but to each their own.

 

[Fischhaber]

if that's true that'd suck...he would be slotting in with arguably one of, if not the best 07 group (with Kitchener IMO), and be loaded up for a run in 2027, playing a big part. if he accepts a deal to a lesser team, that would be crazy.

in my opinion anyway. but to each their own.

There's still a lot of ignorant players and parents who think Northern Ontario is a bad place to play. I had a few good chats with Andy Frost about that. If he goes elsewhere, we'll know that group includes the Griffins.

We've had better luck due to our success at churning out NHL players, but Sudbury has really struggled at times with that outdated perception.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

There's still a lot of ignorant players and parents who think Northern Ontario is a bad place to play. I had a few good chats with Andy Frost about that. If he goes elsewhere, we'll know that group includes the Griffins.

We've had better luck due to our success at churning out NHL players, but Sudbury has really struggled at times with that outdated perception.

IT's a shame. The guys that I've known to have played there, including a very close friend of mine drafted by Quebec in the early 90's absolutely loved the Soo. One of my beer leaguer buddies has a son who played 3 years in Sudbury and 1 year in Guelph and raved about the Wolves fans, and the community.

 

[dirty12]

if that's true that'd suck...he would be slotting in with arguably one of, if not the best 07 group (with Kitchener IMO), and be loaded up for a run in 2027, playing a big part. if he accepts a deal to a lesser team, that would be crazy.

in my opinion anyway. but to each their own.

A lot of ‘07s in the west, similar to ‘06s in the east. Flint, Guelph, Kitchener, SSM, and maybe OS and Sarnia looking good for ‘27.

 

[Voice from the North]

There's still a lot of ignorant players and parents who think Northern Ontario is a bad place to play. I had a few good chats with Andy Frost about that. If he goes elsewhere, we'll know that group includes the Griffins.

We've had better luck due to our success at churning out NHL players, but Sudbury has really struggled at times with that outdated perception.

In Sudbury, the issue was more about the organization than anything else. Not really an issue anymore. Except for the distance driven, parents and players love the Northern experience.

 

[JoeSchmo]

 

[DWI Dale]

that's a decent return, but would have liked to see a bit more quality over quantity myself. oh well, don't stop now Raftis!

 

[JoeSchmo]

“It is a privilege to be able to represent the Soo Greyhounds. I’m super excited about the vision Kyle Raftis and John Dean have in place to bring another championship to the city. I’ve heard nothing but great things about the Soo and can’t wait to meet everyone and get to work” said Smith.

 

[frontsfan67]

What about OHL rule 23.02 ?
"No team shall have two players with the same first and last name."
That's no BS!

Brady smith goalie in the WHL too lol

If you want your kid to make it to the chl name your kid Brady smith I guess?

 

[Chris Coutu]

The Soo in 2026 1st Line - Brady Smith, Brady Smith and Brady Martin, we will be nicknamed the Brady Bunch

 

[Fischhaber]

Brady smith goalie in the WHL too lol

If you want your kid to make it to the chl name your kid Brady smith I guess?

Sudbury 6th round pick this year is also Brady Smith (who is from Oshawa, oddly enough).

The trade is disappointing after knowing that we could have had both Griffin and Smith and knowing that we got less than Guelph did for Allen.

That being said, I would have probably been happy with this deal at the start of the season and I'm looking forward to having another Brady Smith on the roster. Poor Gerry!

I'm also looking forward to not hearing from whiny fans complaining that we never sell, at least hopefully.

 

[frontsfan67]

Sudbury 6th round pick this year is also Brady Smith (who is from Oshawa, oddly enough).

The trade is disappointing after knowing that we could have had both Griffin and Smith and knowing that we got less than Guelph did for Allen.

Brady smith is way better than jenken imo and younger. At the time of the draft I believe there was some talk of him going top 5. Was shocked when he fell to 18 and PISSED when cooper passed on him to take malholtra.

Only thing I’m surprised about is only 1 second and 1 3rd.

Soo probably figured more draft picks would be the way to go though and they have 9 4ths over the next 4 years now. Something tells me they may not be done yet and could be looking for max value for Mignosa to get that 2025 2nd they are lacking and maybe a 2025/2027 5th rounder

 

[Fischhaber]

Brady smith is way better than jenken imo and younger. At the time of the draft I believe there was some talk of him going top 5. Was shocked when he fell to 18 and PISSED when cooper passed on him to take malholtra.

Only thing I’m surprised about is only 1 second and 1 3rd.

Soo probably figured more draft picks would be the way to go though and they have 9 4ths over the next 4 years now. Something tells me they may not be done yet and could be looking for max value for Mignosa to get that 2025 2nd they are lacking and maybe a 2025/2027 5th rounder

I like Smith a ton, but losing out on Griffin in place of 2 high picks and a bunch of lower ones is really disappointing. We really should have gotten 2 more high picks once the NTC didn't go through, but our leverage obviously cratered and Raftis didn't want to look elsewhere.

Our RW depth is ridiculous now, to the point that it is problematic. If Allard is dealt and Martin remains hurt, then Tate Vader will be the only centre on the entire roster. Hopefully they can address this like you said.

 

[frontsfan67]

I like Smith a ton, but losing out on Griffin in place of 2 high picks and a bunch of lower ones is really disappointing. We really should have gotten 2 more high picks once the NTC didn't go through, but our leverage obviously cratered and Raftis didn't want to look elsewhere.

You still have Mignosa. He will be flipped for picks and you’ll be in better shape because of it. Allard would return some good picks too. If you just sold those 3 and held on to everyone else you’d be in great shape moving forward.

Our RW depth is ridiculous now, to the point that it is problematic. If Allard is dealt and Martin remains hurt, then Tate Vader will be the only centre on the entire roster. Hopefully they can address this like you said.

Would be a pretty good bet that they find a darn good centre in the draft, maybe 1 through the import draft as well, then a potential trade? That would give you 4 reliable ones when you’re competitive.

Look for 2 year good centres that would be 07 or 08’s in Finland/sweden/czechia, points if they have family that have played in North America. Would make sense doing something like that rather than what Windsor did this year with Protas who I’m sure will not be back next year and they’ll have to find someone new

 

[Savard18]

One 2nd 3 drafts out. One 3rd 3 drafts out. None in 2025.

 

[scotty171]

One 2nd 3 drafts out. One 3rd 3 drafts out. None in 2025.

They have 2 1sts in 2025. the 2nd and 3rd 3 drafts out are on purpose IMO for future adds in the go for it season built around the 2007 group.

 

[Fischhaber]

One 2nd 3 drafts out. One 3rd 3 drafts out. None in 2025.

Pretty horrendous, I agree. Hopefully they can move others for those missing picks.

 

[JoeSchmo]

I remember a time that people cried when Saginaw got host (me included) because Saginaw was ahead of the game and stockpiled picks for the cup year….

Now the Soo does this plan and it’s horrendous.

It’s always the same accounts who come here to say negative things too

 

[HockeyPops]

Good start Raftis. Maybe a touch light on the picks return, one more high pick would have been good, but I still give an 8 or 9 out of 10 on that deal. Got a good young player back which was the crucial part.
But the job is not done yet.
Now move out two more vets.

 

[Houndzfan20]

Good start Raftis. Maybe a touch light on the picks return, one more high pick would have been good, but I still give an 8 or 9 out of 10 on that deal. Got a good young player back which was the crucial part.
But the job is not done yet.
Now move out two more vets.

Like joe said in another post somewhere, they could have a gentlemen agreement for the future

 

[Rivrfront]

perhaps Allard or Mignossa to Barrie ?

 

[Jimmy582]

perhaps Allard or Mignossa to Barrie ?

Barrie ain’t in need of a OA they got wakley OVS and Jelsma. Mignossa doesn’t really fit into plans either Barrie got 10 fowards gonna get 40+ points this year or very close to.