SSM Greyhounds 2019 Offseason Thread

[HockeyPops]

Wonder if Tanner Dickinson got a gold package when they pried him away from the NCAA route? Hayton should have one, and until they know for sure that he's not returning they won't be able to free that one up.

I believe also that some gold packages transfer when traded, and others stay with the original team depending on the trade agreement (ie. Hayden Fowler's and Liam Hawel's gold packages might count as either a Greyhounds package or an Otters/Storm package). Not sure if imports have ever gotten them? To muddy the waters further.

Likely Gold Packages:
Hayton
O'Rourke
Holmes

Possible Gold Packages:
Roth
Dickinson
Hawel
Fowler
Pytlik
*Malik

*not signed yet

Edit: struck through imports, OA, signed players, as per OHLOutsider and OHL4Life (thanks!)

 

[ohloutsider]

Wonder if Tanner Dickinson got a gold package when they pried him away from the NCAA route? Hayton should have one, and until they know for sure that he's not returning they won't be able to free that one up.

I believe also that some gold packages transfer when traded, and others stay with the original team depending on the trade agreement (ie. Hayden Fowler's and Liam Hawel's gold packages might count as either a Greyhounds package or an Otters/Storm package). Not sure if imports have ever gotten them? To muddy the waters further.

Likely Gold Packages:
Hayton
O'Rourke
Holmes

Possible Gold Packages:
Roth
Dickinson
Hawel
Fowler
Pytlik
*Malik

*not signed yet

Don't believe Euro's are in the mix for Gold ( education) packages. They are compensated in other ways.

 

[HockeyPops]

Habs camp will tell the tale.
If he's there that's big, if he stays past 48 hours that's HUGE.

its only big if hes not paying his way. you can pay your own way and stay for as long as you like, 48 hour rule is void

The 48 hour rule is only one factor that can affect NCAA eligibility. In this case (Cole Caufield), I believe the factor might be missing classes.

Even if the player fully pays his own way to Development Camp, the NCAA has additional rules that govern attendance. The most important rule is that players may not miss any classes at school in order to attend either a Development Camp in July or an NHL Rookie Camp in September. Thus, if a player is registered for summer classes at school, he cannot attend an NHL Development Camp. For this reason, Laczynski was ineligible to attend the Flyers Development Camp this year. Come Rookie Camp in September, every NCAA prospect is affected (which is why they do not attend).

MELTZER'S 411: About the College Kids

 

[OHL4Life]

The 48 hour rule is only one factor that can affect NCAA eligibility. In this case (Cole Caufield), I believe the factor might be missing classes.

MELTZER'S 411: About the College Kids

100 percent correct, i was just pointing out that in the grand scheme of things, staying 60 hours vs 48 isnt a big deal

 

[OHL4Life]

Wonder if Tanner Dickinson got a gold package when they pried him away from the NCAA route? Hayton should have one, and until they know for sure that he's not returning they won't be able to free that one up.

I believe also that some gold packages transfer when traded, and others stay with the original team depending on the trade agreement (ie. Hayden Fowler's and Liam Hawel's gold packages might count as either a Greyhounds package or an Otters/Storm package). Not sure if imports have ever gotten them? To muddy the waters further.

Likely Gold Packages:
Hayton
O'Rourke
Holmes

Possible Gold Packages:
Roth
Dickinson
Hawel
Fowler
Pytlik
*Malik

*not signed yet

Edit: struck through imports, as per OHLOutsider (thanks!)

you can scratch off hawel as well, once they become an oa they dont count towards the 7. i believe that hayton has signed an nhl contract, once you sign an nhl contract the packege gets voided, so thats another you can knock off. id be pretty surprised if the soo kept fowlers designation, but you never know.

the other guys could very well have one, no one knows unless your in the organization.

 

[jjhound]

you can scratch off hawel as well, once they become an oa they dont count towards the 7. i believe that hayton has signed an nhl contract, once you sign an nhl contract the packege gets voided, so thats another you can knock off. id be pretty surprised if the soo kept fowlers designation, but you never know.

the other guys could very well have one, no one knows unless your in the organization.

Correct, once a contract is signed, they are freed up from their package.

 

[nelli27]

Where will Barrett Hayton fit into the Arizona Coyotes line-up?
http://flip.it/75qQNe

 

[Fischhaber]

Where will Barrett Hayton fit into the Arizona Coyotes line-up?
http://flip.it/75qQNe

Link doesn't work. Do you need an app or something?

 

[HockeyPops]

Its a flipboard link. Here is the direct link
Where will Barrett Hayton fit into the Arizona Coyotes line-up?

 

[nelli27]

Link doesn't work. Do you need an app or something?

Apologies. Thanks hockey pops.

 

[DeletedAccountt]

Correct, once a contract is signed, they are freed up from their package.

Think you have 18 months to honor it though

 

[DeletedAccountt]

64 days until home opener folks.

 

[Fischhaber]

64 days until home opener folks.

So excited! Who else is going to most of the exhibition and preseason games? I'm excited to get my first look at the new guys like Holmes.

 

[HockeyPops]

Hoping to pop in a few times during training camp. I will be paying attention to the forwards mostly in training camp as it should be highly competitive for the last 3 spots.

I don't want to put too much pressure on Holmes; after the unbelievable rookie season O'Rourke had, we could end up inadvertently putting unrealistic expectations on Holmes this year.

 

[DeletedAccountt]

So excited! Who else is going to most of the exhibition and preseason games? I'm excited to get my first look at the new guys like Holmes.

I'll be there

 

[newhound777]

I don't think so. That's why Ryan Roth wasn't moved. Bad business ...... I could be wrong but, I don't think so.

Edit: Ya so it's for anyone they wanna use it on, full year paid for each year in the league. I also don't know if we used one on Roth but I am assuming we did from info I got. Gabe Guertler is a good example he had one they used full package to pull him from.NCAA, and now using it a PEI UNI

What info did you get? Bad business meaning what? I've always wondered about his deal. Just read his bio again after reading your comment. From Detroit Honeybaked program, played a few games in the USHL as a 16 year old, former NCAA commitment, top ten in scoring as a rookie, limited role after the Raddysh/Sambrook trade, 4pts in playoffs, 21 goals and 42pts in second season with 3pts in the playoffs and guessing he was not happy about the coaching change. I feel exactly the opposite that you do, Roth likely wanted a trade but we didn't want to let him go unless it was for a huge addition to the team (Suzuki deal). Also, heard his family has big money, so I doubt the gold package would be a hurdle. I hope we keep him because we will need his points this season. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored 60+ pts.

 

[HockeyPops]

I have had no reason to believe that Roth is unhappy here.
Dug up an old scouting report on Roth.
Undrafted US Prospect Signs with Soo Greyhounds - Neutral Zone

 

[Fischhaber]

I have had no reason to believe that Roth is unhappy here.
Dug up an old scouting report on Roth.
Undrafted US Prospect Signs with Soo Greyhounds - Neutral Zone

I only know Ryan indirectly but it seems like he loves the Soo. He came back during the Christmas break and even spent significant time here in the summer.

 

[newhound777]

I only know Ryan indirectly but it seems like he loves the Soo. He came back during the Christmas break and even spent significant time here in the summer.

That is good news!

 

[DeletedAccountt]

Guys .... I simply meant teams inquired about him but it would be bad business to move him as we utilized a gold package to pry him to come to SSM

His father as far as I know didn't want him to come here.. I could be wrong...

 

[DeletedAccountt]

In other news

 

[PuckLife]

O’rourke And Pytlik are the returnees I’m most excited to see their summer growth and development.

 

[Houndsfan22]

You sound like Jalen Rose so like he was I hope you are wrong
Hayton is the KEY PIECE we need back to either make a run or trade for the future

I hope I'm wrong too.

 

[DeletedAccountt]

In other news

 

[DeletedAccountt]

I would have loved to see Raftis get a commitment from Jacob Semik.

Arizona State commitee