Blue Jays Discussion: Split Against O's, Up Next, Yankees

[Eyedea]

Just like a top 3 talent falling to 9 because of his health.

SRF fell this year, and Norris fell to the 2nd round of 2011. I'm starting to think AA casts some weird voodoo ****.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Just like a top 3 talent falling to 9 because of his health.

Or the top LHP in a draft falling to 74 because of signability concerns.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Hoffman could be the steal of all steals thanks to his Tommy John surgery.

He's young enough where it could only be a one time issue.

 

[The Nemesis]

here it is

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb...md=20140507&content_id=74657366&vkey=news_mlb

yeah, that's stupid. Just give them an opt-out form to sign. Less weird hoop-jumping or things like balking on a drug test.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Hoffman could be the steal of all steals thanks to his Tommy John surgery.

He's young enough where it could only be a one time issue.

Top 3 talent taken at #9, expecting to be signed for much less than the slotted amount for that draft position

Yeah, that's a win ... Very good risk reward management

Love it!

 

[Eyedea]

Found a scouting report on Thomas:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-profile-for-toronto-blue-jays-5th-round-pick

Not bad. the #s project out to him being MLB average to above average pretty much clean across the board. Could be an average everyday CF or a good corner OF or backup/utility OF.

Getting down away from the top rounds, you could do worse than picking a guy that's at worst all-around MLB caibre with no obvious holes.

Apparently Lane Thomas already struck a deal with the Jays. Doesn't seem like such a tough sign considering he's touted as a 1D CF (according to this guy). Though the Jays actually drafted him as an RF.

 

[The Nemesis]

Apparently Lane Thomas already struck a deal with the Jays. Doesn't seem like such a tough sign considering he's touted as a 1D CF (according to this guy). Though the Jays actually drafted him as an RF.

He's listed as a RF right now, but the report I heard said he could shift to CF because of his athleticism, or even move to the IF maybe.

 

[Eyedea]

There's the first punt

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Looks like a punt pick. 7-10 college seniors and save up some money to get a good talent or two in the 11+ rounds.

 

[GoHabsGo95]

There's the first punt

whats a punt pick?

 

[theaub]

wooo tank!

The Cardinals have 32 HR all year. The Blue Jays have 32 HR in their past 20 games

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

whats a punt pick?

College seniors in mid rounds to sign for cheap, and supply additional money for other (higher ceiling) picks.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Looks like a punt pick. 7-10 college seniors and save up some money to get a good talent or two in the 11+ rounds.

8-10 maybe. Zehner is a junior, just read on a random Cal Poly forum somewhere that I found through google that the mlb site has a mistake there listing him as a senior

http://www.gopoly.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/bios/zehner_zack_jtn9

 

[Eyedea]

whats a punt pick?

A selection of a player that likely didn't expect to get drafted (so high). Usually college seniors that sign for $1000 or so and get a chance playing in pro ball.

 

[Bjindaho]

whats a punt pick?

Drafting a player rated lower because he'll sign for less than the designated slot value (like a college senior who would have little leverage) allowing the team to use the difference between what they paid and what they had available on other picks.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

8-10 maybe. Zehner is a junior

A junior with a year of CC under his belt. 22 years old in August. I say he signs cheap.

 

[Highlander23]

whats a punt pick?

Punt: selecting a senior college guy (no leverage in negotiation) ==> offer him peanuts (1-5K) ==> save the money of the slot for a higher profile player !!

 

[Canada4Gold]

A junior with a year of CC under his belt. 22 years old in August. I say he signs cheap.

yeah I know, I'm just saying he's a junior because for some reason the mlb site had a mistake there listing him as a senior

 

[dredeye]

whats a punt pick?

Draft money is allotted to every player. To save money teams will or aa at least will "punt a pick" to save money to use elsewhere. Generally say a 7th round pick you have a little over 150k to sign him. You draft a college kid that isn't very good but will sign a contract for 5 or 10 k and never play baseball again and just to try his luck and catch on. Saving them 140k to use on a high end prospect. AA has punted up to 5 picks in the past but you must sign them to get the money to use. This can also only be done in the first 10 rounds.

 

[dredeye]

off topic but the jays signed Ayala to a minor league good. Nice depth signing.

 

[Bjindaho]

Draft money is allotted to every player. To save money teams will or aa at least will "punt a pick" to save money to use elsewhere. Generally say a 7th round pick you have a little over 150k to sign him. You draft a college kid that isn't very good but will sign a contract for 5 or 10 k and never play baseball again and just to try his luck and catch on. Saving them 140k to use on a high end prospect. AA has punted up to 5 picks in the past but you must sign them to get the money to use. This can also only be done in the first 10 rounds.

In a perfect world, it's a college senior who you end giving a tryout to.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

yeah I know, I'm just saying he's a junior because for some reason the mlb site had a mistake there listing him as a senior

Yeah I saw him listed as a senior on the tracker so I just assumed. Probably more of a $5,000 sign instead of $1,000.

 

[Woodman19]

off topic but the jays signed Ayala to a minor league good. Nice depth signing.

AA loves his ex expos.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Joey Pankake has been picked

Now we wait to hear Hansome Monica

 

[Scion]

Blue Jays sign LHP, Luis Ayala to a minor league contract. Ayala is a year removed from a 75IP, 2.64ERA year.

Career vs RH:

6.30 K/9
1.67 BB/9
3.65 xFIP