Blue Jays Discussion: Split Against O's, Up Next, Yankees

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Blitzkrug

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In 53 innings pitched, Wells had 102 strikeouts, six complete games and two no-hitters while allowing eight earned runs for a 1.06 ERA.

Why hello there. Obviously not pro numbers but that's still damn impressive.
 

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With Pick 83, the Blue Jays select LHP Nick Wells!

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BertCorbeau

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You can never have enough quality pitching in the system!

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Especially when the Jays are priming themselves for a big trade for a starter to help the team now involving Sanchez...
 

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Nick Wells @NickWells08 · 10m
Couldn't be more honored and blessed to be drafted as the 83 pick to the @BlueJays! Thank you to all who has supported me and helped me!
 

Daisy Jane

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and in baseball there's no entry level contracts like NHL - you have to get slotted or something with money right?
 

Eyedea

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and in baseball there's no entry level contracts like NHL - you have to get slotted or something with money right?

The slot values are just signing bonus money. I think the minimum salary for rookies when they reach the majors is like $480,000. In the minors though they are getting chump change through the levels.
 

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With the 114th Pick, the Toronto Blue Jays select catcher Matthew Morgan!

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Nasty Nazem

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6'1" 190lbs DOB: 01/27/96 | Scouting video
No Alabama high school catcher has gone in the first five rounds of the Draft since the Mets took Craig Brazell in the fifth round in 1998. Brazell played only briefly in the Major Leagues, while Morgan has enough promise offensively and defensively to project as a possible regular. Unlike many of the top catching prospects in the 2014 Draft, Morgan creates little doubt that he'll be able to stay behind the plate. He has solid arm strength, receives the ball well and is an agile defender. Scouts give him high marks for his leadership skills and competitiveness, as well. Morgan also can do some damage with his bat. He gets good extension with his right-handed swing and will develop more power once he learns to turn on pitches more frequently. For now, he's content to use a gap-to-gap approach that shows good maturity for a high school hitter.

Looks like he can stick behind the plate and could be good there. Hopefully his bat can develop.
 

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and in baseball there's no entry level contracts like NHL - you have to get slotted or something with money right?

There are entry level contracts in MLB. What the slot values are is what the league believes is a fair signing bonus to give to each pick # in the draft. Every team is then allotted a total budget that they are allowed to spend on singing bonuses for all their draft picks based on the slot values of the picks they hold. Where this becomes more interesting is that though the picks a team has determine their total spending allowance on bonuses, they aren't hard locked into spending each pick's value on just that particular pick. They can shuffle the money around in their pool, saving dollars on some picks and then using those saving to spend more on other picks.

For example, this is the slot values for each of the picks in the first 10 rounds of the draft:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2014-draft-assigned-pick-values-for-top-10-rounds/

For the Jays' first pick at #9 (Jeff Hoffman) they have an allotment of $3.08m, and for their 2nd pick at #11 (Max Pentecost) they have about $2.89m allotted.

But if they were to sign each player with bonuses of $2.5m, that would then leave them about 550k of money left over from those slots that they could use to spend on later picks. So, for example, Sean Reid-Foley's slot value is about $1.12m, but the team could offer him up to $1.67m if they use those savings from round 1.

This is why you hear people talk about teams "punting" picks. They'll pick guys late in the draft that they think will cost little to none of their slotted bonus money so that they can use all those savings to try and sign a more expensive player elsewhere in the draft.

This all matters because teams can't exceed their total bonus pool without penalties. Go over by a 1-5% and you have to pay a "tax" on your spending overage. Go more than 5% over your total value and it starts costing future draft picks. But all that matters in that regard is the total for your whole draft, not the individual pick values. You could, if you wanted, punt your entire draft except the 1st rounder and spend your whole bonus budget one just one guy. But of course that'd be stupid.
 

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I wonder if the Jays will be ballsy enough to draft Bukauskas. He's a top draft prospect that's slipping because he's considered a really though sign. Not everyday you find a pitcher that throws 100mph though... And Wells reminds me a lot of Madison Bumgarner
 

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I wonder if the Jays will be ballsy enough to draft Bukauskas. He's a top draft prospect that's slipping because he's considered a really though sign. Not everyday you find a pitcher that throws 100mph though... And Wells reminds me a lot of Madison Bumgarner

Jays could take him 11-40 rounds but there is no chance they could sign him. Cubs are probably the only team with a shot to sign him but I doubt it. He doesn't seem like he wants to sign at all.
 

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Yah Bukauskas is a waste of a pick imo. Esp since, with all the saved $ going to Reid-Foley, we won't be able to overpay enough to get him.

When a prospect sends out letters to teams pre-draft saying that he doesn't want to re-sign, apparently he only reclassified to the 2015 draft so he could get to UNC quicker, it's a big red flag.
 
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