Dreger: Speculation that Panarin asking price is just over $12 million a season

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Eggtimer

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I'd love Panarin in NJ...12 is a lot but man the line of Panarin-Hughes-Palmeri would look good
This . Panarin wanted to play for the Hawks and Hawks only when he first came here . Both because of the Hawks were contenders and he wanted to play with Kane ... he can play with Hughes which is (hopefully ) Kane v.2.0 but at C
 

doublechili

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Salary.

Cap.

Malkin can be the most brilliant marketer this side of John Wanamaker or David Ogilvy but in the NHL he can't exceed the cap.

Panarin is a great, exciting player, but paying him $12 mil cap hit limits the Isles from icing a well rounded Cup contender around him, longterm.

So yes, can the owner tell his general manager that he wants to add some talent? Sure. And when the general manager tells him that he's overpaying for an asset and that it will hurt the team long-term, how does the owner respond? You think a good owner, who's knowledge base is real estate, is going to completely disregard his GMs feedback and overpay by approx. a $2 mil cap x 7?

The money itself isn't the issue, it's the lack of cap flexibility after paying a player like Panarin McDavid-type money that's the issue.

Paying Panarin more than Matthews, etc. is flat out fiscally irresponsible and risks of desperation. And that doesn't seem to fit the profile of the owner you just laid out.
Did the Leafs doom themselves by signing Tavares last year at $11 million for 7 years? So the Isles pay Panarin $1-2 million more per year (for a more impactful player). That's a bottom pair defender. I think they'll figure it out. It helps that they have some good young players coming up on ELCs.
 
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Did the Leafs doom themselves by signing Tavares last year at $11 million for 7 years? So the Isles pay Panarin $1-2 million more per year (for a more impactful player). That's a bottom pair defender. I think they'll figure it out. It helps that they have some good young players coming up on ELCs.

NO the leafs didn't doom themselves, they just have to get it out of their mind they have enough room to keep Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Nylander. Signing Tavares just means the Leafs gave themselves a chance to trade one of the other 3 for a defenseman
 

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Did the Leafs doom themselves by signing Tavares last year at $11 million for 7 years? So the Isles pay Panarin $1-2 million more per year (for a more impactful player). That's a bottom pair defender. I think they'll figure it out. It helps that they have some good young players coming up on ELCs.

Calling Panarin a more impactful player is fairly absurd.

Tavares is a centre and had 19 more goals last season lol
 

doublechili

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Calling Panarin a more impactful player is fairly absurd.

Tavares is a centre and had 19 more goals last season lol
Tavares is a great player - I watched him for 9 years - but he's a great player along the boards, down low and in the slot. He's not an impactful player in the neutral zone, etc - sorry, that's just the truth (and yeah, he's a center, but he needs a playmaking, zone-entering winger on his line because that's not his thing). Panarin on the other hand....
 

Huck Cheever

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Only teams that make sense is NYI and FLA. Both need #1 goalie and have the cap for Panarin too.

Panarin & Bob want New York then it's the Isles, not Rangers... Rangers don't need Bob long term.

I'm picking NYI to win this
 
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islesfan186

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Only teams that make sense is NYI and FLA. Both need #1 goalie and have the cap for Panarin too.

Panarin & Bob want New York then it's the Isles, not Rangers... Rangers don't need Bob long term.

I'm picking NYI to win this
From your lips to gods ears.
However, unless Panarin is coming with Bob, I really don't want Bob. Would rather they just resign Lehner for cheaper
 

Seanaconda

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Great post. I think the middle class gets squeezed out. 150-300, 50 of them join the top tier and 100 of them join the (relatively) poor.
Idk how much fighting there will be . In life everyone thinks they will be rich one day I bet most hockey players believe they are gonna be in the top class too
 

Huck Cheever

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Wow that's a bad take. They have one of the best goalie prospects in the world and Bobrovsky is gonna sign there? lol

Actually - its Lou. He'll probably sign them for 15M/year

Samsonov (who is actually in the NA) is another top goalie prospect but you don't see Washington unloading Holtby...

Sorokin is still a gamble to come to NA and it's not a given he's going to be Tretiak 2.0.
 
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Mark Stones Spleen

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He hasn't even won a single round in the playoffs, playing beside elite talent, put him with average linemates and I bet his stats wouldn't be as hyped? Don't get me wrong, he is AWESOME! with epic vision, but COME ON... he aint worth 11.5 puckin mil
The only person that fits your description exactly is Auston Matthews.
 
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IslandersFan17

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Wow that's a bad take. They have one of the best goalie prospects in the world and Bobrovsky is gonna sign there? lol

Actually - its Lou. He'll probably sign them for 15M/year
Until Sorokin comes over to NA, I'm not holding roster spots hostage. I've been a huge fan of Sorokin and have been adamant hell come, but until it happens, or he shows the Islanders he truly has every intention to... again, I'm not going to hold roster spots hostage.
 
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