Speculation: Speculation, rumours and fanciful ideas on trades, Free Agents and arriving prospects 25/26 season

[Hobble]

Helle for 9 OA and Samoskevitch would be a good (not great) return. Probably OK that Samoskevitch is American as he is not established at all.

Maurice is very familiar with the Jets roster...maybe he targets another player(s) and the Jets can get Lundell and the 9 OA

Sign-and-trade Wheeler + Helle.

 

[CanMerc]

I was thinking the same thing haha, not sure if he’s available or not. But goalies are voodoo and cheap to get typically

Was rumoured he quietly asked out of DET and EDM was interested…apparently that’s expanded to include UTA…no idea the cost but can’t see it being more than a 2nd +

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

I would be very happy with 9th OA and Mackie, bc imo that’s about the most we’re realistically going to get without adding ourselves. I have no issues asking for more, but I don’t expect more.

I wouldn't be very happy honestly, losing the best goaltender in the world when we are still looking to compete for the 9th pick and a middle six winger, not exactly a great return especially if you don't hit on that 9th pick which is certainly a possibility.

We should be aiming to get more, let us just hope FLA is not Helle's only choice if the rumours turn out to be true.

 

[Hunter368]

Was rumoured he quietly asked out of DET and EDM was interested…apparently that’s expanded to include UTA…no idea the cost but can’t see it being more than a 2nd +

He’s a huge goalie, young and decent numbers so far in his career

 

[CanMerc]

He’s a huge goalie, young and decent numbers so far in his career

Goalies typically go for less return than other players…getting him would be a good start to the rebuild/reboot

 

[Hobble]

I wouldn't be very happy honestly, losing the best goaltender in the world when we are still looking to compete for the 9th pick and a middle six winger, not exactly a great return especially if you don't hit on that 9th pick which is certainly a possibility.

We should be aiming to get more, let us just hope FLA is not Helle's only choice if the rumours turn out to be true.

As good as Helle is, he is no Hasek. I think he just like most goalies is ultimately a product of the system in front of him. Which lowers their trade value relative to a top C or D who typically improve the quality of play overall.

Plop him on EDM and I don’t think he cures all of his woes. But stick him on FLA? Yeah, he probably had a solid game.

 

[CanMerc]

Curious if others would want out if Helle left.
We’d get lots of assets if we had to move KFC, Morrissey, Pionk, Lowry

 

[Heldig]

Curious if others would want out if Helle left.
We’d get lots of assets if we had to move KFC, Morrissey, Pionk, Lowry

We were having that fantasy talk earlier in this thread.

 

[CanMerc]

As good as Helle is, he is no Hasek. I think he just like most goalies is ultimately a product of the system in front of him. Which lowers their trade value relative to a top C or D who typically improve the quality of play overall.

Plop him on EDM and I don’t think he cures all of his woes. But stick him on FLA? Yeah, he probably had a solid game.

Agreed…In FLA he definitely wins a cup…in EDM it’s not a guarantee

 

[CanMerc]

We were having that fantasy talk earlier in this thread.

Not trying to rehash it, just saying we wouldn’t be starting with nothing

 

[Hunter368]

I wouldn't be very happy honestly, losing the best goaltender in the world when we are still looking to compete for the 9th pick and a middle six winger, not exactly a great return especially if you don't hit on that 9th pick which is certainly a possibility.

We should be aiming to get more, let us just hope FLA is not Helle's only choice if the rumours turn out to be true.

But, if Helle has demanded a trade and/or put Chevy on notice to be dramatically better or else……we aren’t competing, we’re restructuring. IMO Helle comments could be viewed as a poison pill type of warning, bc he knows Chevy can’t do what he’s asking for to happen. At best, if Chevy has a good summer were a bubble team to a weak playoff team and I can’t imagine that’s what Helle is demanding.

Good vs bad returns are very dependent on the situation, Helle has a full NMC and 100% controls where he goes which potentially limits the return a bit. Of course there is the argument Chevy could play hardball if Panthers offer a 2nd pick and Mackie, says to Helle sorry I can’t find a suitable trade. But Chevy/Chipman are very reasonable, if Panthers offer a reasonable offer they’ll take it IMO and not want to foster ill will amongst vets on the team. Chevy could also try to slow play it (most likely outcome), very Chevy thing to do, he will make some improvements this summer, Helle might be doubtful, Chevy will pray everything turns to gold and we have a good season next year, at worst he trades Helle next summer when Helle as less control and Chevy has more teams to work with and hopefully a slightly better return.

 

[Hunter368]

Goalies typically go for less return than other players…getting him would be a good start to the rebuild/reboot

Agreed, there is also other good goalie prospects out there on other teams. Plus some teams like Minny and Sabres likely move a roster goalie. LB is also a FA, available July 1 as a bridge goalie for a couple years if needed.

 

[gojetsgo]

This could all be off that PuckEmpire? Troll post on twitter.

seems like one of those times where friedman says something vague and people guess to try and look like they are in the know

 

[CanMerc]

But, if Helle has demanded a trade and/or put Chevy on notice to be dramatically better or else……we aren’t competing, we’re restructuring. IMO Helle comments could be viewed as a poison pill type of warning, bc he knows Chevy can’t do what he’s asking for to happen. At best, if Chevy has a good summer were a bubble team to a weak playoff team and I can’t imagine that’s what Helle is demanding.

Good vs bad returns are very dependent on the situation, Helle has a full NMC and 100% controls where he goes which potentially limits the return a bit. Of course there is the argument Chevy could play hardball if Panthers offer a 2nd pick and Mackie, says to Helle sorry I can’t find a suitable trade. But Chevy/Chipman are very reasonable, if Panthers offer a reasonable offer they’ll take it IMO and not want to foster ill will amongst vets on the team. Chevy could also try to slow play it (most likely outcome), very Chevy thing to do, he will make some improvements this summer, Helle might be doubtful, Chevy will pray everything turns to gold and we have a good season next year, at worst he trades Helle next summer when Helle as less control and Chevy has more teams to work with and hopefully a slightly better return.

I think Helle comes down to 2 teams…FLA, most likely as it’s as close to a guaranteed Cup as it gets, and second DET because he’s a Michigan boy

 

[KingBogo]

I think Helle comes down to 2 teams…FLA, most likely as it’s as close to a guaranteed Cup as it gets, and second DET because he’s a Michigan boy

Do you really want to go to Detroit as there #1 center is walking out the door? I think any deal would just with Florida, but I think the Jets get more than fair deal. First off everyone wants to go to Florida, so they can afford to overpay a bit considering someone else will be willing to sign with them at a discount. Also #1 goalies are a very limited resource and Chevy has time on his said with 5 more years of control.

 

[gojetsgo]

rofl so if you listen to the empty netters podcast they say that "reports have come out that helle requested a trade"



the only thing reported at the time was the puck empire troll tweet...

this is like a terrible game of telephone that took me all of 30 seconds to debunk

on with your day people

 

[CanMerc]

rofl so if you listen to the empty netters podcast they say that "reports have come out that helle requested a trade"



the only thing reported at the time was the puck empire troll tweet...

this is like a terrible game of telephone that took me all of 30 seconds to debunk

on with your day people

Based on Helle’s presser at season end, I felt he was putting Chevy on notice to get things fixed, but was willing to stay at least another season to give things a shot…so until I see or hear otherwise, I’m going on the assumption he’s a Jet next season…but doesn’t hurt to speculate and prepare

 

[gojetsgo]

This could all be off that PuckEmpire? Troll post on twitter.

you were 100% correct on this

puck empire tweets

empty netters read the tweet and talk about it as if it's real

spitten chicklets guy listens to EN podcast and says he heard it from them

 

[lanky]

I think Helle comes down to 2 teams…FLA, most likely as it’s as close to a guaranteed Cup as it gets, and second DET because he’s a Michigan boy

I offered him to Detroit on the trade board and RedWing fans don't want him. They think he's too old.

 

[tbcwpg]

I think Helle comes down to 2 teams…FLA, most likely as it’s as close to a guaranteed Cup as it gets, and second DET because he’s a Michigan boy

I don't think someone wanting to leave for a Cup is choosing Detroit even if it's his home state.

 

[Jets4Life]

The stars have been lining up on this one since the Olympics. The guy wants a shot at a cup and its not happening any more here.

A couple of random guys with no real connections, are spreading rumors that cannot be substantiated at the moment. Aside from that, the Hellebuyck for Larkin + a late round draft pick rumors, is insulting to any real Jets fan.

If the Jets trade Hellebuyck, it better be a damn good return, considering Comrie would be our new starter. We have absolutely no depth in net.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Hellebuyck to Florida
40oa to Montreal
Fowler and 9oa to Winnipeg

 

[cbcwpg]

So everyone in the NHL wants to play for Florida. Do they get a higher cap then every other team?

Go ahead...Trade Helly to Florida... it guarantees that Florida will never win in the playoffs again.

 

[WolfHouse]

KFC-Scheif-Rosen
Barron-Vilardi-Samoskevich
Perfetti-Lowry-Lambert
Koepke-Yager/Zhilkin-Iafallo

Better than last year’s opening night…. I’d still like to get FLA’s Russian goalie prospect too though

I’d really try to throw in Nino for more picks - FLA will be looking for bottom six vets

 

[CanMerc]

KFC-Scheif-Rosen
Barron-Vilardi-Samoskevich
Perfetti-Lowry-Lambert
Koepke-Yager/Zhilkin-Iafallo

Better than last year’s opening night…. I’d still like to get FLA’s Russian goalie prospect too though

I’d really try to throw in Nino for more picks - FLA will be looking for bottom six vets

Could try flipping Vilardi to SEA for Matty B.
KFC-Scheif-Rosen
Perfetti-Matty B-Samos
Koepke-Barron-Lambert
Iafallo-Lowry-Chibs

Sign Jeremy Lauzon
Morrissey-Salo
Samberg-Pionk
Lauzon-DeMelo

Then try to beat other teams to Cossa
Cossa
Comrie