Speculation: Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXIII

[GAGLine]

I'm sure this was pointed out already, but a 35+ contract is a contract signed when the player was 35 years or older on June 30th (the day before the contract kicks in).

Look at Lundqvist for instance: He was bought out after 35, but there was still cap relief because he signed the contract prior to turning 35, therefore it being an SPC.

In addition to the age requirement when signing, the contract must also be a multi-year deal to qualify as a 35+ contract. Joe Thornton's contract is not a 35+ contract, even though he signed it at age 41, because it is only a 1 year deal. Ovechkin's contract was signed at age 35, and is for 5 years, so it is a 35+ contract.

Only the 2nd and subsequent years are subject to penalty if the player retires or is bought out. In the past, the penalty would be incurred regardless of the salary structure of the contract, but this was changed in the MOU so that the penalty is incurred only if the contract is front loaded. Mike Smith signed a 2 year deal at age 39, but it is backloaded. He makes more in the 2nd year than the 1st year. This contract is not subject to 35+ penalties.

 

[SA16]

If you are not following guys like Aaron Portzline, Michael Russo, Sean McIndoe and many others, you don't really know what is going on.

Good point. If you don't follow Sean McIndoe you won't know about how to make the best team among players with rhyming names.

 

[SA16]

Kotkaniemi is not worth 6.1M this year. He likely won't be worth 6.1M next year. this is not a smart hockey decision. It also leaves them now exposed to further "retaliation" with Necas next year. And this is what I mean about retaliation not making sense. Congrats you had your fun trolling them and forcing them to make a decision and you also harmed your organization at the same time.

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Why can't we offersheet Pettersson?

I'd rather overpay for him in salary than trade half the farm for Eichel.

 

[Tob]

Move seems bad for Carolina. I would let them have him if I was mtl.

The QO at $6.1M next year plus the fact he's nowhere near $6.1M player this year means this is a lose lose for both CAR and MTL whoever comes out with him. The only winner here is Koktaniemi.

 

[Do you want ants]

Kotkaniemi is not worth 6.1M this year. He likely won't be worth 6.1M next year. this is not a smart hockey decision. It also leaves them now exposed to further "retaliation" with Necas next year. And this is what I mean about retaliation not making sense. Congrats you had your fun trolling them and forcing them to make a decision and you also harmed your organization at the same time.

I would agree if it was the Rangers doing it, but it’s not. The Canes are in the division so I’m more than fine with them doing dumb things that can benefit us.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kotkaniemi is not worth 6.1M this year. He likely won't be worth 6.1M next year. this is not a smart hockey decision. It also leaves them now exposed to further "retaliation" with Necas next year. And this is what I mean about retaliation not making sense. Congrats you had your fun trolling them and forcing them to make a decision and you also harmed your organization at the same time.

They have 24 million in open space next summer provided that they don't add anyone else (and they can't)

They won't have any trouble getting him signed.

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Move seems bad for Carolina. I would let them have him if I was mtl.

Same.

But he was drafted high and Montreak desperately needs a top 6 C. A late 1st and a 3rd might not "be worth it" from their standpoint.

Either way I love this type of pettiness.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The QO at $6.1M next year plus the fact he's nowhere near $6.1M player this year means this is a lose lose for both CAR and MTL whoever comes out with him. The only winner here is Koktaniemi.

I'm laughing my balls off at this so I win too.

 

[SA16]

They have 24 million in open space next summer provided that they don't add anyone else (and they can't)

They won't have any trouble getting him signed.

It's not about trouble. If he doesn't extend prior to FA there is nothing stopping mtl from just offering him something stupid and then CAR has to decide if they should match and overpay him.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The salary is 6,100,015... The 15 dollars being Kotkaniemi's jersey number. The 20 dollar signing bonus being a reference to Aho's

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

 

[LOFIN]

He's not worth that money but it's not a deal that cripples the Canes either so whatever. Love this move.

 

[Kords]

Honestly, Canes have made some suspect moves from the blueline to the crease. I would take the 2022 1st, might not be particularly late and by all accounts it's a deeply solid draft.

Or take the picks and cap space and grab Eichel as your 1C tbh.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If Montreal matches KK is going to get slaughtered by the media/fan base as there is no way he lives up to the money next season and I'd bet he wouldn't be tendered a contract a year from now.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Why can't we offersheet Pettersson?

I'd rather overpay for him in salary than trade half the farm for Eichel.

We have 5.1m in cap space

 

[SA16]

If Montreal matches KK is going to get slaughtered by the media/fan base as there is no way he lives up to the money next season and I'd bet he wouldn't be tendered a contract a year from now.

Of course he won't. It is 6.1M for someone who would be their 4C lol .

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is f***ing epic.

 

[EpicDing]

I'm so here for the Cane's pettiness. This is the type of shit I would do in a fantasy league if someone annoyed me lmao

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Carolina is so cringe

They have to do shit like this to be relevant cause no one gives a f*** about them normally

 

[NYR94]

I don't get it from Carolina's perspective. And no petty revenge for Aho is not a good reason. It could be Dundon's influence but Carolina is the biggest try hard team in the league.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Habs have to move salary to March right? They are at the off season max right?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don't get it from Carolina's perspective. And no petty revenge for Aho is not a good reason. It could be Dundon's influence but Carolina is the biggest try hard team in the league.

The Hurricanes are a lot more fun to follow online than the Rangers, that's for sure.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I don't get it from Carolina's perspective. And no petty revenge for Aho is not a good reason. It could be Dundon's influence but Carolina is the biggest try hard team in the league.

I mean in these threads we go through periods of looking longingly at the Kings' third and fourth best center prospects because it never seems like anyone else is on the market. If you think Kotkaniemi can have like a Brandon Dubinsky career for them, and get signed long-term on a better number than 6, it's fine imo

 

[Rongomania]

This is f***ing epic.

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Absolutely ultimate troll job.