Maybe, but that says more about the West than it does Edmonton. I like Colorado and St. Louis more.
So.. Edmonton has to be the favorites coming out of the west, right?
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Kranix
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By every single category, I'm thinking you are talking about esoteric imaginary numbers stats and not straight points and wins, right?
Kamiccolo
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I think the Avs are really over rated and in the same boat as Edmonton. They have Mack and the rest of their roster has been either injured all year or disappointing. They are missing Kadri for the season and their star forwards haven't been themselves.
Defense has been widely over rated and they just have gotten some great goaltending. I take the Oilers over the Avs in a playoff series. Would put money on it.
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oh wow. you convinced the whole hockey world now.
I guess everyone was wrong and you were right.
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So Edmonton is overrated too? Wait, did you just slip up here and reveal what you're really trying to say?
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If Colorado gets past St. Louis, they are THE favorite in the West.
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They are the defending champs, so people are going to overrate them a bit. Don’t get me wrong, they re a solid team but for the most part they need to grind out close games and hope they come out on top. With St Louis a few beaks could turn a series either way. Vegas is just a really good team that can control the game and not give you a chance. Colorado is more hit and miss but when they are on they can be unstoppable.
JoeThorntonsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Well, unless the objective of hockey is no longer to out-score the opposition, it's a fact that the Senators with Stone on the ice in his final 3 years with Ottawa are better than the Oilers with McDavid or Draisaitl over the past 3 seasons...
Why wouldn't I believe that Stone has been better? Do you think these numbers aren't fact?
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St. Louis is better at this than Vegas.
Kamiccolo
Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is.
.. No? Jesus christ you guys are acting like you are detectives during the day.
I am saying everything people are saying are reasons as for why the Oilers wouldn't win, are also applicable to the Avs, and I take Oilers over the Avs.
The thing with St. Louis is that they’ve missed their one pure game breaking talent this year. When he comes back it will be much more significant than any TDL moves made yesterday.
That said, it’s extremely hard to repeat. They will need some breaks to come out of the West even but I still see them as the most well rounded team with good depth at every position. The playoffs are a grind and usually the more bubble teams like most of the Pacific tend to get exposed as the playoffs grind on and injuries mount.
JoeThorntonsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
I specified goals which determine who wins the games. Stone can't control what happens when he's on the bench, it's not his fault that the Oilers without McD/Drai have a team that is much better than Stone's Senators without him were.
Kranix
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Did you just double the totals by having two Mark Stones there. Explain why just Stone has more GF and GA
CantHaveTkachev
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you realize there more to hockey than 5-on-5 play right?
Stone isn't even an elite PP point producer....how can he be a better player when he only excels in one area?
Drai and McDavid have more ESP and PPP than Stone but Stone is better cause he's better in 1 area? come on
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I don't think "pedigree" means what you think it means.....
So what your saying is you know nothing about the Oilers and you briefly looked at the +\~ on hockeydb
I don’t think they get further than first or second round but how you got yourself to that conclusion is all wrong
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Smith is probably the starter
Our biggest trade deadline acquisition is actually calling up Yamamoto and forming Nuge Drai yamo as the top line
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Aceboogie
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Man. Give it a rest. You discovered analytics last year and your complete lack of understanding destroys every Oiler rleated thread
JoeThorntonsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Somebody email the NHL and let them know that they need to stop using goals to determine who wins the games; that stat is just too fancy.
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And now. Colorado has an argument for being favored over St. Louis, Vegas does not.
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JoeThorntonsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
The one who should give it a rest is you, you literally misrepresent everything I say. I've been following analytics in hockey for about a half decade now since Corsi was the big thing.
I haven't even brought up any analytics in this thread besides the one that literally determines which team wins the game: goals.
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